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projectzero
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Mike_yy]
#12808435 - 06/26/10 03:55 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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this thread really does not disappoint.
and 5 euro for a peyote that size Simisu, you got a bargain. I have seen a 5cm X 5 cm L.W. go for $200 NZD on a auction site down this way.
great pictures everyone keep em coming ;p
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Simisu
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keep in mind that was 5 euro for the THREE of them! i think the two bigger ones were 2 euro each and the smaller one for a single euro!
they go really cheap here and i'm not sure why, there are bigger ones for sale on the most turistic street in Bracelona but the small ones they sell are about 6 euro each (which is still not expensive but i don't have any money to spend and i'd rather grow them my self, grafting or from seed)
that's why i never understand how you guys spend so much money for plants!? people spend loads on buying Salvia/Peyote/San Pedros.... i don't get it, i'd rather be patient and passionate and find my self a trade or grow from seeds/small cuttings
but that's just me
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Lopho spider
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Mostly_Harmless
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Shroomeup]
#12810592 - 06/27/10 01:04 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomeup said: Lopho spider

neat!
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SMUCKA
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midday sun in the uk will badly burn smaller peyote older ones will be fine in a good few hours of sun they may feel soft and warm to the touch after a full day in hot sun dont worry its normal.
pic's was taken after 4 hours in my back yard

this was 1 month ago yesterday i notice one of em puting on new growth thank god. fingers crossed for the rest.
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: SMUCKA]
#12810801 - 06/27/10 05:30 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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ouch!
i think it depends on many factors, the size weather water content of the pot/plant and so on... baby cactus are much more prone to burn that's for sure!
it also depends what the plant is used to, if you put it out in full sun after it was used to being protected and shaded most of its life then i wouldn't be surprised if it was burned in a day!
once they get used to it they'll love it (as long as you provide them with sufficient water) at least that's what my common sense tells me
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: SMUCKA]
#12810815 - 06/27/10 05:40 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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smucka!
All of mine over about 3 years old are taking 6 hours full sun each day, but younger ones I wouldn't do that with younger ones.
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Simisu said: it also depends what the plant is used to, if you put it out in full sun after it was used to being protected and shaded most of its life then i wouldn't be surprised if it was burned in a day!
Good advice.
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: SMUCKA]
#12810844 - 06/27/10 06:08 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ouch SMUCKA! Looks like some will recover eventually if given time. Grafting is always an option.
I can relate though sort of. Lost a bunch of little seedlings earlier this year to full sun after moving them from their shady spot. It didn't take long either, three hours max and they were like little balls of soft dew. Only five out of twenty-something survived and have taken a shock but should grow again once Spring rears its head. They're tough little plants and can take some hits.
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i shud have learnt my lesson from my first burning of my first ever loph. Fingers crossed these mit grow into a monster as well.
These picture span 16 months in time from start to last






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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Cactusdan]
#12811033 - 06/27/10 08:02 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Here's an article from a journal I get. A few of you may be interested in it regarding the nomenclature of Lophs. It's from 2006, and check out the cristate on the last page.









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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Jackal]
#12811067 - 06/27/10 08:14 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good job on posting that Jackal! Been meaning to get that back issue.
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kadakuda
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thats an interesting article, but anyone who grows Lophophora will agree it is quite frankly, wrong.
a note on the sunburn thing. it doesnt really matter where you live, arctic, desert, rain forest etc. even a big ol mature loph will get burned after a few cloudy days then sudden sun. if you get a few dark days in a row, then a bright sunny day, they usually get sunburned a bit. its really bad here in the summer where super dense dark rain clouds in the summer stay around for a month, then open up and WHAM, plants are dieing.
if anyone here has a similar situation, remember to either move them, or if you have too many use shade cloth...it saves lives i got a big ol roll here, and i must say its the best $50 i ever spent.
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ferrel_human
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: kadakuda]
#12813126 - 06/27/10 04:04 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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i buy shade cloth at lowes. it seems to help them.
BTW, what does the color of sunburn look like?
is it that pinkish purpleish hue they get sometimes?
i got 2 grafts that have that color.
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that can be too much light, more often too little water. even grafts can get too little water up top 
sun burn is generally lightening of the skin, and as it gets worse it goes brown = cells dieing. like smuckas pics.
ever see a trich go yellowish? thats the beginning
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: kadakuda]
#12817741 - 06/28/10 12:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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ahh i see. thanks for clearing that. then its somethng else.
on the subjects of hurricanes, i will take off the shade cloth and let the hurricane water my cacti.
do you think it will be too much for the to handle and they'll go flopping around.
first time i'm gonna be away when a hurricane hits.
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ferrel_human
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i have a loph fruit coming out. it was to dark to take pics but i will post some tomorrow if weather permits;.
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Ieponumos
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My father used one of my lights and my plants have suffered for it. You think they'll outlive the stretching? Also the one in the second pic has a little bit of brown on the top. Hardly noticeable, but should I monitor it?
Also an update on the sunburnt loph.

Also, the Asian loph is doing quite nicely:
Edited by Ieponumos (06/30/10 04:11 PM)
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Ieponumos]
#12829950 - 06/30/10 04:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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those babies are etiolated. i recommend fluoroscents so that they will plump up and fatten again.
oh and i would ditch the blue rocks.
not only do they look very fruity but they keep the soil way moist and that is not good with this species.
just a tip/
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Ieponumos]
#12832835 - 07/01/10 02:31 AM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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about the brown hue in the second picture, that's perfectly normal what you're looking at are the starting sign of spines (which are only there for a short time in the lives of Loph) it's the growing tip and it's normal that it's a little darker then the rest of the body.
about the etiolation i don't know what to tell you except good luck, do your best to keep them healthy and with time you could forget about them being etiolated 
you pulled the sunburned loph out to take a picture or you were transplanting it?
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Simisu]
#12858343 - 07/06/10 07:01 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Simisu said: about the brown hue in the second picture, that's perfectly normal what you're looking at are the starting sign of spines (which are only there for a short time in the lives of Loph) it's the growing tip and it's normal that it's a little darker then the rest of the body.
about the etiolation i don't know what to tell you except good luck, do your best to keep them healthy and with time you could forget about them being etiolated 
you pulled the sunburned loph out to take a picture or you were transplanting it?
It's been recovering out of the pot it was in (which was outside). It is soon to go back into soil.
Also @ ferrel: the rocks do have a lot of surface area, but they don't retain moisture as well as one would think. They have been removed regardless. A bit of perlite has been mixed in to compensate.
Also,
When should I remove?
Edited by Ieponumos (07/06/10 07:27 PM)
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