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DIY Nitrous Cracker?
    #12611668 - 05/22/10 08:23 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I know this forum isn't really for drug-related stuff, but hey its the Shroomery, there's much weirder stuff around these parts anyway...:awesome:

So, I was thinking about getting back into nitrous one last time. I stopped a couple years ago because I was getting these weird pains in my ears, but I think it was the pressure of the nitrous I was undergoing.

Anyway, I have modified a cream dispenser before, as shown in the photos below...


I was thinking of something smaller, like a pocket sized one you can use those large "boxer" balloons at the dollar store.

Any ideas? Can I build one myself or is it too complex for a commoner?

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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #12612193 - 05/22/10 11:00 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

After some contemplation and internet research, I think I may have answered my own question....

I am going to try a CO2 paintball gun "Quick Changer" adapter. The CO2 chargers look just like the N20 ones. Not quite DIY, but definitelly retrofitting.

I will let ya know how it goes.

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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #12612546 - 05/23/10 01:20 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I believe most CO2 chargers are larger than N2O ones. I modified a small CO2 bike pump once, didn't work very well, I went back to the cream dispensers.



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    #12683112 - 06/04/10 05:37 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

This is one I made ages ago:





All parts were bought from a hardware store for around $15.


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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: Akamatsu]
    #12689257 - 06/05/10 12:51 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Nice dude! Sweet photos too!

So, couple questions: how did you get the puncture pin inside the pipe fitting?

And second: How many parts are there total?

3rd: Does it adapter to a large ballon? Tube maybe?

lastly: some techincal ones: Whats the diameter of the brass fittings? And whats the black tape for?

I'll have to try this one out this weekend! The only bad thing is that the Isi(r) brand chargers are now "associate-get" only. They must be "cracking" down on the misuse of them, so they hid them from view. Only store people can get them now.

Thanks for the tips Akamatsu! Don't give me the blueprints: I wanna figure it out on my own.

Thats DIY genius! :yesnod:
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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #12689531 - 06/05/10 02:09 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Ideally, you need a drill press and a tap to create a thread for the puncture pin.  You can get away with a hand drill and self tapping screw though. 

This is better picture of a slightly different design that shows the parts:


I use it to fill balloons.  All fittings are 1", which is a perfect fit for a bulb.

Interesting that they're cracking down on them where you live, they're sold over the counter at most convenience stores where I am.  Let me know if you need any more info.  I have a few spare from the last batch I made, so if you have any trouble I'd be happy to trade one.


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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: Akamatsu] * 1
    #12690543 - 06/05/10 09:59 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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Ideally, you need a drill press and a tap to create a thread for the puncture pin.  You can get away with a hand drill and self tapping screw though. 





a saddle valve could be adapted to make the piercing pin, just remove
the clamp and find something it could be threaded into that would hold
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    #12694682 - 06/05/10 11:50 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I think you'll have trouble finding one big enough, but it would be perfect for the job if the thread on the valve body was 1".


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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: Akamatsu]
    #12695912 - 06/06/10 08:15 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

the standard 1/4 inch is fine, it's just a matter of adapting or finding other parts to suit the task


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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #12697968 - 06/06/10 03:49 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Whoa, Prisoner#1. Thats some innovation in the art of precision NO2 piercing! Damn!

And you would use the outlet on the valve to release the NO2.  Very cool!

But the only downsides are the screws would take awhile to screw in, and you might accidentally pierce it while placing it. But, its an idea.

I like that piercing needle on the valve: its hollow right? If not, it won't work right. And if its not air-tight, there will be leaks around the tip of the needle.

But with enough modifying it could work.

Another good idea by P#1.
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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #12698773 - 06/06/10 06:27 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

DIY compressed air container opener?

I dunno just sounds sketchy, that's a lot of pressure being released. Be careful not to make a NOS cartridge gun :smile:

I am open to any ideas but for christ sake be careful when building something like this.


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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: cyanophilus]
    #12698856 - 06/06/10 06:40 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Oh, no doubt! Gotta be careful!

Not only of the pressure, but of the frosty-cold temps the cartridge will make when it releases its gas. So cold, it could burn you're fingers!

I think the best one would be the first ones from Annon and Akamatsu, with the solid sides holding the charger in place. That pressure is not to be taken lightly! :lol: I love puns.

So yeah, I think I wanna try make my own, like Akamatsu's one. As long as its cheaper than the $40 for a name-brand ISi(r) one and its also safe to use, its worth it!

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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: cyanophilus]
    #12698928 - 06/06/10 06:52 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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I like that piercing needle on the valve: its hollow right? If not, it won't work right.~ LogicaL Chaos ~





it doesnt have to be hollow, screw it in then unscrew it to release the
gas, they're water tight so they have no problem sealing

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cyanophilus said:
I am open to any ideas but for christ sake be careful when building something like this.




so children in iran are building backyard nukes and you dont want anyone
to blow themselves up with a cracker.... it's pretty safe really,
there's versions of this device that are made of plastic, brass has an
excellent holding strength, far more than that cartridge can produce


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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #12698969 - 06/06/10 07:00 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

hey man don't give me shit im just saying to think before anyone does this. some people forget that they can get hurt. yeah it's not as bad as some of the things people do, but then again I don't think this is a thread for that.

aside from that, here is some design plans that popped up on a quick search:
http://www.justsayn2o.com/nitrous.crackers.html

just some ideas to add. I like some of the ones you guys built better though.

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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: cyanophilus]
    #12699247 - 06/06/10 07:36 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Very true, my friend. Safety is important. These crackers can be dangerous, which is why I made this thread: to prevent bad ideas from flowing around for DIY crackers.

But I have to say, this logo is AWESOME! :lol: Check it out.



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    #12700253 - 06/06/10 10:12 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

take that..... nancy reagan?


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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: cyanophilus]
    #25107939 - 04/02/18 06:57 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Its been a long time, but I got an update.

Ive decided that commercial-grade nitrous crackers are the best.


But what I am going to make is a nitrous bong by adapting a commercial-grade cracker to a glass bong thru its stem using vinyl tubing.

I believe it will work. The glass bong will act as a low-pressure vessel to make inhaling easier.


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    #25108066 - 04/02/18 09:02 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Lol, came back 7 years later to update. Epic.

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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #25108089 - 04/02/18 09:24 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

My relationship with nitrous goes waaaaaaay back. One of my favorites.


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    #25110362 - 04/03/18 08:06 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

You did exactly what i want to. A mod that has a hose from my tank would mean i could covertly do nitrous in public. I love nitrous when tripping and i love doing it in public, ive done it on the subway in manhattan for example, I feel like that tube would give me way less looks then inhaling from my backpack.

Dont get me wrong i am very good at doing so as I walked around manhattan and did 3 cases of nitrous on LSD, it was a very unique experience. I would love to not have to worry about the whole face in back pack thing i have to do now, that would look like a camel pack


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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: Violet Wizard]
    #25123139 - 04/08/18 11:49 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

So this is what I came up with so far:

I call it the DIY Nitrous Bong


- Nitrous cracker on the right, Bong tube on the left. Pressure valve in the middle.


The Pros is that it does actually work: it releases nitrous at a lower than typical pressure. Took me a while to figure out that the valve has to be completely open and it acts like a pressure regulator by the design of the valve.

The con is that it is wasteful. Theres leaks and its not as efficient as the nitrous bottle. Also, it hits hard and fast, much like a beer bong. U have to be prepared. Hoping the glass bong adaption with help.

The parts are:

1 ft of clear vinyl, 1-1/4" OD by 1" ID
2ft of clear braided vinyl, 1-1/2" OD by 1" ID
A 3/4" brass ball valve threaded hose bib (blue hand, 1/4 turn)
Two #20 stainless steel hose clamps
One nitrous cracker

Total cost was about $35, $10 for the cracker, $25 for the DIY parts.

I still want to add a empty glass bong to the mouth side to help lower the pressure of the gas while keeping it contained so it is not wasted. Spreading the nitrous so to say.

Also, I might replace the 1 ft with another 2 ft but only if the bong still needs more volume for the cracker gas.


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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25123159 - 04/08/18 11:55 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Pro Tip: The cracker itself acts like a pressure valve when u unscrew it after piercing the nitrous charger.


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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25123551 - 04/08/18 02:21 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Heres my final result:



I spent about $50 extra for this. $35 for the soft glass bong and $15 for the 5/8 ID vinyl hose and the 5/8"x1" brass adapter.

It works a lot better than the previous version but it still leaks and I cant take all the hit in one go. And because of the gap, there is wasted nitrous. Because of this, I have concluded the best combo would be a whip cream dispenser with vinyl hosing going to a glass bong.

That way u have both low pressure and a storage tank for the nitrous charger.

Interestingly enough, the ballon/cracker method is better in some ways as u can hold the nitrous inside the ballon to hold the hit for the next hit.

Oh well, its pretty fun to use. Its like a complex water bong.


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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25128956 - 04/10/18 04:47 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Heres my final result:



I spent about $50 extra for this. $35 for the soft glass bong and $15 for the 5/8 ID vinyl hose and the 5/8"x1" brass adapter.

It works a lot better than the previous version but it still leaks and I cant take all the hit in one go. And because of the gap, there is wasted nitrous. Because of this, I have concluded the best combo would be a whip cream dispenser with vinyl hosing going to a glass bong.....







Why not just use a cracker and a balloon?

Or just a plain ol' dispenser?


To me that seems like an expensive, a large & clunky, and wasteful thing to use for nitrous.


When I'm tripping and/or on nitrous in general, trying to handle and operate that thing would be a task compared to just having a balloon wrapped around my finger or a dispenser sitting in my lap.


And the way it looks...It appears as if you would have to inhale the nitrous as it's coming out of the cracker? Or can that tube actually hold and store the entire volume/pressure of a few chargers?







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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: openmind]
    #25129997 - 04/11/18 01:26 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I dont like the ballon because they rip or fly off the cracker and i dont really like the taste of ballons. As for the dispenser, its too hard to get the pressure out. Im going to try the dispenser and see if i can dial in the pressure just right.


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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25157440 - 04/22/18 11:18 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

So im pondering a change to my design. Im thinking of instead using a glass bong, I need a glass chamber, a large one, to hold the nitrous while it empties out of the charger/cracker.

Problem is, the best fit for this is a glass penis pump.

Im not sure I can bring myself to hitting nitrous off a penis pump. The idea bothers. Maybe Im hobophobic.

HOWEVER, there is a breast version for women: https://vacutech.com/product/womens-products/breast-enlargement/breast-cylinders-pair/

This may be my ticket....


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    #25157723 - 04/22/18 01:13 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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I dont like the ballon because they rip or fly off the cracker and i dont really like the taste of ballons. As for the dispenser, its too hard to get the pressure out. Im going to try the dispenser and see if i can dial in the pressure just right.







I've had a balloon rip before when putting it on the cracker, but that was because the same balloon was used a lot through out like 5 different trips over a period of a few months and it became worn out after 100 to 200 chargers went into it...I've never had a balloon fly off the cracker though.

I don't really notice any taste from balloons, there's a subtle rubber smell to em' but it's never something that's been disgusting for me. I can kinda understand if the taste is really that strong and that disgusting for you, I've never known anyone to find nitrous from balloons to be disgusting though lol.






About using a dispenser...What do you mean it's "too hard to get the pressure out"?

All ya have to do is gently push/pull on the lever :shrug: , all it takes it one finger :lol: .







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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: openmind]
    #25157743 - 04/22/18 01:26 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I meant, its hard to get the pressure out at the "right" pressure. :wink:

I just bought a bunch of vinyl tubes, 2 different bigger sizes and two rubber adapters. This should work. But my supplier of chargers ran out of chargers, so I bought some old-skool Reddi Whip cans from the market for Ready Player One in theaters. The good thing is those Reddi Whip's are portable in my cargo pants.


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Re: DIY Nitrous Cracker? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25378796 - 08/10/18 03:49 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Dude I am impressed at the lengths you will go to just to get a good nang, but I'm still not getting what all the tubing is for? You can buy crackers online that are pretty discrete, but how do you solve the problem of it being loud as fuck when you pierce the cannister? Surely there is no way it can be subtly done in public without making heaps of obvious noise?


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    #28531264 - 11/05/23 10:56 PM (2 months, 20 days ago)

I would go to home depot and look around in the natural gas plumbing section as I think residential n.g. is something like 1/4psi. So you should be and to find a low pressure regulator and/or valve there. Im not 100% but im pretty sure 1/4psi is low enough to breathe directly, or from a hose or whatever. If you made it out of actual n.g. fittings with thread tape and a real valve/regulator I'm certain you could put something together that would be efficient, leak-proof and compact. As for the nail, id just use a self tapping screw or drill a hole for the nail/screw and put some epoxy over it to seal it up good.

I'd be willing to do it if you wanted to hire me. 😅 Could come up with something in about an hour or two Im sure.


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