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Anonymous #1

Got Robbed Last Night
    #12609079 - 05/22/10 10:57 AM (14 years, 12 hours ago)

About 3 am last night three rather large black guys with 2 shotguns and a baseball bat came in and robbed me.  I was expecting company and had just finished walking my dogs so I hadn't locked the door yet and they just walked right in and stuck a shotgun in my face. I'm 6'1 and weigh about 200ish and two of these guys towered over me not that it really mattered.  Could have been midgets.

I put my hands behind my neck and averted my eyes, as they were not wearing masks so I didn't want to be able to ID them or make them think I could.  They demanded my shrooms and I calmly and politely told them how much I had and where it was located.

My roommate was here and sketched out and was not calm, I'm surprised they didn't hurt him. Once they had my stash they demanded money and jewelry. I own a $5 necklace and had $15 cash on me.  They choose not to take my cash. 

As soon as they were not looking my roommate went into a dark room and jumped out a 2nd story window and ran off in the woods.  His dog jumped out after him, loyal little shit.

At this point one of them who was acting pretty nervous and twitchy punched me in the face.  Managed to bust my lip, bust the skin under my eye, give me a black eye, bust my eye brow up good and get me a hell of a lump right in the middle of my forehead in a single quick hit.  Dude had a big fist :-(

After that the one who appeared to be in charge, very calm and as assertive apologized for about the other guy hitting me in the face and reached into the bag of dried shrooms and tossed me a big handful before leaving.

I thought for sure when they did not have masks I was probably going to die after they got what they wanted.  First time in my life I've starred down the barrel of a gun like that.  A really long, simple, old looking style with a rather large barrel. 

Looked something like this, but maybe 20 or 30 years old.


It was all over in less then 2 minutes but it felt like an hour.  I'm still pretty much in shock and I don't think the enormity of this has really hit me yet. 

To make things worse, I found out last night that my fiancee of 8 years has been cheating on me for 3 months.  I was sitting there feeling sorry about that and thinking it was amazing how fast one's life can change directions and a few minutes later this happened.  Might be one of the worst nights of my life. 

In the grand scheme of things it could have been far, far worse.  In the end all I have is a few scratches on my face, I've done far worse to myself on accident while drinking.

I've never worried about security where I live.  It's a quiet, peaceful neighborhood with very little traffic.  Now I'm paranoid as fuck.  Drawing up plans for a wireless security system, double secured windows, motion activated flood lights, heavy duty chain and bolt for the main door, couple signs for security system + window stickers and maybe even a security camera

Basically make it impossible for quick and easy entry while also providing lots of light and a shit load of noise if anything is disturbed.  I feel the chances of them coming back is pretty high.

In the time it took to write this my roommate has already packed his shit and left, though he was planning on moving out soon anyway. 

So not really sure why I'm even posting it.  Helping to clear my thoughts I guess.  Has anybody else had something like this happen?    Any suggestions or ideas? 

I don't have any grows going currently.  Best I can figure is my now former guy ran his mouth around the wrong people.  I made it very very clear to him he was not to tell ANYBODY who I was or where he got his supply from and to just say he had a supplier in nearby state.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12609104 - 05/22/10 11:03 AM (14 years, 12 hours ago)

Damn man. That sucks. Why post it anonymously, though? I'm glad thay didn't do anything except rough you up a little. It could have gone way worse. Your roommate is a major pussy for leaving you. Fuck that dude.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12609120 - 05/22/10 11:06 AM (14 years, 12 hours ago)

wow man im so happy youre alright

cameras arent even that expensive now days man.  look around craigslist for the wired ones and get an older computer that can support a multi-video card.

you can probably rig up 4-5 cameras to a computer for maybe 400.. i mean thats not cheap cheap but its cheaper than it used to be..

maybe invest in a large headed pit pull too.. those things can tear shit up

shit get 2 or 3 no one will ever think to fuck with you..


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: the human abstract]
    #12609153 - 05/22/10 11:15 AM (14 years, 11 hours ago)

Definitely gotta move. Once you get got if you dont change it up your just an ATM machine for the goddamn savages. They'll eat their own, we dont stand a chance. but yeah, gotta move asap. Even if you don't grow anymore, they'll be back! dont be a victim, move!

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: joshisstoned]
    #12612678 - 05/23/10 02:57 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Why post it anonymously, though?


I didn't want this to be associated with my account.  I'm a pretty frequent poster here.

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Definitely gotta move. Once you get got if you dont change it up your just an ATM machine for the goddamn savages. They'll eat their own, we dont stand a chance. but yeah, gotta move asap. Even if you don't grow anymore, they'll be back! dont be a victim, move!




Moving isn't really an option.  I think my best bet is to make this place a very unappealing target in the future.  Already got my preliminary defenses in place and the rest will be finished by tuesday.

I'm not going to grow anything any time soon as well and keep this place clean.  One thing I think I need to worry about is one of those cock suckers getting busted for something unrelated and narcing on me in the future. 

Plus I'm going to keep this place locked up tight with lights, cameras and security alarms out the wazoo.

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Anonymous #2

Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12614017 - 05/23/10 12:25 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Ive been robbed a few times. No fun that's for sure. Get a pistol

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Anonymous #3

Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #12614187 - 05/23/10 01:15 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i hope when the robbers eat those shrooms, they have the most terrifying experience ever. they deserve to get a mind fuck.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #12614247 - 05/23/10 01:30 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

It's a shame you didn't dip them in muratic acid

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #12614408 - 05/23/10 02:13 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
i hope when the robbers eat those shrooms, they have the most terrifying experience ever. they deserve to get a mind fuck.




The mushroom spirit will kick their asses.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12615383 - 05/23/10 05:27 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Here is what ZooOfTheMoon reccomended to me for home security, it looks fucking SECURE:

Hinge Pins, a Bolt Buddy, a Mul-T-Lock deadbolt door, and window film.
This will make your door impervious to a police battering ram, and your windows can withstand a fucking baseball bat and not even flinch.

Get an alarm system and put the stickers on your door & windows, you should be fine.
If you'd like to use a camera, make sure you put it in plain sight, BEHIND on of your windows, and have it pointing at your door, or at least the area leading up to your door.

You'll have your own little fortress of solitude, the door and window film stuff will add up to about $700.00, and the alarm system/ camera system will vary depending on how hard-core you want to go.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Fry]
    #12617942 - 05/24/10 01:34 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Here's what I got so far.

http://www.amazon.com/51107-Smart-Wireless-Alarm-System/dp/B00032AVN6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1274685955&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/U-S-Patrol-JB5322-Alarm-Security/dp/B001I0E20A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1274686016&sr=8-2

Got the main entrance wired up with 2 alarms.  Already had a dead bolt but I replaced some of the hardware to make it more secure.  It's set 4 inches back into the solid wood frame + 6 inch screws. 

Door is solid oak with no windows or panels.  Added a security chain and attached it to the ceiling floor joists with 2" deck screws, tossed the little shit screws that came with the kit.

Installing a flood light as soon as it gets here.
300-watt two-light halogen 240-degree motion-activated security floodlight /w 70 foot detection range.

Will add camera's later once I can afford it. 

For home defense I have an old garden machete that I spent an hour sharpening with a grinder plus a few club like items made out of cured ironwood (blue beech) I harvested a few years ago and was going to make some walking sticks or something.  They light, but incredibly solid and hard.  Carved handles into them so they're easy to hold onto.

Did I mention amazon.com is awesome? :/

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12620476 - 05/24/10 02:37 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Hey man,
The guy who told you to move - he's right. I had a friend a few years back have his house robbed - he didn't move and it happened twice or 3 times more before he realized he had to get out of there. ASAP.

Even if you stop growing, what about everything else of value in your house?

And your own peace of mind and safety - you need to consider moving as quickly as you realistically can - when your lease is up, whenever, ASAP - you said yourself the likelihood of them coming back is pretty high.

If you've got a nicely secured place, it is no big deal to wait until you leave or come home and then force you to open at gunpoint again...

Sending you good vibes either way, sounds like a terrible week :frown:

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: dwpineal]
    #12625962 - 05/25/10 01:17 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Just an update.  Installing this system next week. Every single window or door will have sensors + glass break sensors installed and I'm going to go ahead and install those security flood lights on every end of the house for complete coverage.

After that I'll be installing camera's and some other devices once that's done.

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Hey man,
The guy who told you to move - he's right. I had a friend a few years back have his house robbed - he didn't move and it happened twice or 3 times more before he realized he had to get out of there. ASAP.

Even if you stop growing, what about everything else of value in your house?




If this was just a rental or something I would have been gone.  I have to clean up the mess I made.  Obviously I will never grow here again but I have to think about future occupants which will most likely be family. 

I do intend to move, but not until I have all this security installed so the house is safe/secure as it reasonably can be.

On a site note, I did found out who orchestrated this whole fiasco, a local thug who apparently makes a habit of this sort of thing.  Turns out it wasn't even my 'guy' but my window jumping  now ex-roommate who ran his mouth and they were after him, not me. 

He told people he had shrooms for sale and they found out here he lived (with me).  It's a life lesson for me.  Don't tell anybody, even people you trust will do retard shit and it will come back on you.  If you do decide to sell, keep it away from where you live. Don't shit where you eat.

On a side note, from what I hear about this guy is that he has a no violence policy and unloaded weapons.  All about intimidation and show.  I did find it fucking weird that he apologized sincerely to me after his associate busted up my eye.  Was a whole lot of WTF at the moment.

I'm still a bit traumatized.  Can't sleep at night and little noises make me jump but I'm not going to let this turn me into a paranoid nut either.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12626977 - 05/25/10 04:28 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

thats one thing that thieves steal that cant be rebought- peace of mind.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: danielx]
    #12628300 - 05/25/10 07:57 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Burn his house down.

If this is his business there will be 1000 suspects, and you will never get caught.

Just an idea

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12629779 - 05/26/10 12:26 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

The24HourMC did it.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #12629781 - 05/26/10 12:27 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

"If you do decide to sell, keep it away from where you live. Don't shit where you eat." - :thumbup:

"thats one thing that thieves steal that cant be rebought- peace of mind." - :thumbup:

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #12634606 - 05/26/10 09:11 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
Burn his house down.

If this is his business there will be 1000 suspects, and you will never get caught.

Just an idea





+1 or at least report him to the police anonymously and plant evidence there

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: one4fun]
    #12638371 - 05/27/10 12:53 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I had an old wise man tell me this...a heavy pcp laced sak is always a good thing to give to someone robbing you...


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: one4fun]
    #12638409 - 05/27/10 12:58 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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one4fun said:
Quote:

Anonymous said:
Burn his house down.

If this is his business there will be 1000 suspects, and you will never get caught.

Just an idea





+1 or at least report him to the police anonymously and plant evidence there




Not really sure what, if anything, I want to do on the revenge route.  For one I'd have to be absolutely 110% sure it was the right person before I took any action.  I'd feel like shit if I burned the wrong house down :-(

I have an old contact that might be able to find out who did what but things like this are always iffy.

In the mean time I'm installing my new security system and I finally decided to buy a weapon for home defense.  Been checking my local laws to see how all that works.  Turns out all I need to do is pass a background check, which I will.

Decided on a 22 rifle, semi auto with a large capacity clip.  Local law says 20 round capacity is as high as I'm allowed, as anything higher = assault rifle.

figure a little scope + laser pointer will do the trick.  Needs to look scary but also do the job.  Might as well do some small game hunting with it too.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12638508 - 05/27/10 01:12 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

...22 is not scary.  it will still kill ya but i use mine to shoot shit like rabits and squirls.  get a semi auto shotgun.  nuf said.  00 buck will fuck you up


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12638861 - 05/27/10 01:54 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Decided on a 22 rifle




:smilingpuppy:

all that will do is piss someone off... unless you hit them directly in the heart but good luck with that in a high intensity situation. you'd be better off with a baseball bat, or a shotgun like already mentioned.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12639214 - 05/27/10 02:41 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

jesus man, dont stake your life on a .22 rifle. get a 12 gauage shotgun for home protection.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: danielx]
    #12639643 - 05/27/10 04:03 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Hah, either move or kill them. Yes you are fucked. What is a security system going to do? Your joking right?

If you had a security system, I'd put a gun to your head an make you turn it off. You aren't safe now that you've been targeted. They are willing to go to the next level but you aren't. Game over.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: danielx]
    #12640121 - 05/27/10 05:18 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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danielx said:
jesus man, dont stake your life on a .22 rifle. get a 12 gauage shotgun for home protection.




After doing a little more research I decided on this option.  maverick 88 with 00 buckshot.  I didn't realize how weak .22's are and the models that look like assault rifles are pricey.

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What is a security system going to do?




It's a deterrent and notifier. 

Bottom line is if someone wants to get in your house, they can and will provided you don't live in an underground bunker and even then it's still technically possible but requires a lot more effort and expertise. 

However, we're talking about some punk thugs.  If they roll up and there's security lights coming on with signs they're probably going to bail.  If they don't they're going to run into windows that are bolted shut and doors that are reinforced and alarmed.

The alarm gives me time to grab my shotgun, dial 911 and be prepared to deal with the situation if need be.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12644627 - 05/28/10 10:53 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

+1 for high powered civilian weaponry.



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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Heffy]
    #12645179 - 05/28/10 12:50 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

LOL, a .22 and security system aren't going to do shit for you.  A dollar store buzzer alarm on the door will do just as well for scaring people off.

You need to look at why and how you got robbed. 

Why?  Loose lips, too many people knowing your shit (address even!?), people thinking you're weak, and shady dealings with bad characters.

How? They came right in after you!  You didn't check around before going up to your house, you didn't lock the door behind you, you didn't have a weapon, and you got taken by surprise.

If you don't fix those problems NOTHING else is going to help you.

Get a dog, a gun, pepper spray, and a baseball bat.  Your gun will mostly be for show.  Mount it on the wall so everyone you know knows you have a gun.  Talk about hunting often so that people you don't really even know will know that you have guns.

Slam that deadbolt the second you get inside and keep it locked at ALL times.  Keep your defense weapons near you or the door so they're handy whenever you open it.  With a deadbolt you will have plenty of time to get them ready before they get in.

Pepper spray is a highly underrated, but highly effective weapon.  You can open the door a crack (hopefully it's also on a chain) and hose them down if there's a problem.

Anyways, defending yourself is something only you can do and it's YOUR responsibility.  Cops and security companies can NEVER protect you from an immediate threat.

As far as a gun... shotguns are excellent home defense weapons.  They don't need paperwork (available at any MegaMart), you can load multiple types of rounds into them (alternating slugs and buckshot works well), they have a big barrel and are scary, racking a shell makes a highly identifiable sound (robbers will always run if they hear a shell racked, you don't even have to say anything), they are useful for hunting, and they are great for beating the shit out of people without even firing.  The rounds also won't go for miles, through multiple walls, etc., and kill neighbors, etc..

A 20ga. double barrel is fairly cheap and is plenty for what you need.  I only use a single shot and feel it's plenty.  Remember, you aren't going to be getting in an extended firefight anyways.  Criminals try to escape as soon as they know the cops are on the way, and a gunshot will do that very well.  You'll have a couple blocks of neighbors calling the cops as soon as a gun goes off.  The TV shit is not real, a gunshot is LOUD as fuck.  Half the town will hear.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: fastfred]
    #12647262 - 05/28/10 06:55 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Why?  Loose lips, too many people knowing your shit (address even!?), people thinking you're weak, and shady dealings with bad characters.

How? They came right in after you!  You didn't check around before going up to your house, you didn't lock the door behind you, you didn't have a weapon, and you got taken by surprise.




That's the main thing I've been focusing on since that night.  What do I do now/next.  It's affected my life pretty significantly.  I wasn't concerned with security prior to this, but now I consider it a priority.

As far as knowing my shit, I had 2 people who I dealt with.  Both of them were under strict orders not to reveal their source.  I'm not sure which of them fucked up or even if one of them was in on it. 

In the end, I don't even think it matters as I've cut ties with both.  I can never grow in this place again and won't even try.  First thing I did after they left was dispose of anything incriminating.    If the cops busted in right this second the only thing they'd find is a few shotgun terrariums and some gourmet edibles colonizing along with documentation.

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security system aren't going to do shit for you


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This I don't understand.  How will having every entry point wired up to ridiculously loud megaphone style alarm not do shit?  You said yourself in the same post that the robbers will generally run once they think police are on the way.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12647658 - 05/28/10 08:26 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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This I don't understand.  How will having every entry point wired up to ridiculously loud megaphone style alarm not do shit?  You said yourself in the same post that the robbers will generally run once they think police are on the way.




because at this point they know you are a punk. you are the ATM plain and simple. if they want to rob you all they have to do is wait for you to come home or come out of your house and stick a gun to your head. Then they have free reign of the house.

if your insistent on not leaving, fine. Stay armed to the teet. However, don't think you are invincible because you have a couple alarms.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12647732 - 05/28/10 08:44 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I wonder if you can legally get away with shooting them in the back after they leave you unattended.  I'd probably be so pissed off I'd do it as soon as they left.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: despisedicon]
    #12649823 - 05/29/10 10:08 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Shooting them in the back = First Degree murder..


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Brainiac]
    #12651433 - 05/29/10 04:01 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe where you're from :p    In texas your free to shoot until they get off your land.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #12652357 - 05/29/10 07:41 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I can see that in texas, with it being overrunned by illegals....


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Brainiac]
    #12652693 - 05/29/10 08:57 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Um, if you have a security system that automatically calls the cops, then you could be in deep shit if you are growing, or even if you have anything. 

My suggestion is to reinforce the windows and doors with bars and to ALWAYS lock every single potential entrance to the house when you are not using it. 

Also get one of those brinks security signs, and post it in your yard.  You don't even have to have the system, the threat that you might will be enough to deter people.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: ChronicCluster]
    #12653591 - 05/30/10 12:22 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

> Also get one of those brinks security signs, and post it in your yard.

All a security system does is make them plan around it.  They'll figure out how to grab you so you have to disarm it or they'll hit you fast and hard, or they'll get you at another location.

I know people that laugh at those signs.  They say "Thanks now I know exactly what alarm system you have and will plan accordingly."


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Brainiac]
    #12654075 - 05/30/10 04:26 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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I can see that in texas, with it being overrunned by illegals....





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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: 2859558484]
    #12658997 - 05/31/10 12:54 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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I can see that in texas, with it being overrunned by illegals....





you cant tell the difference when 36% of the population is latino




36% of what population? The real population or the "legal" population?

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12660288 - 05/31/10 10:46 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Shotguns are great but I'd opt for a handgun personally.  SG's are big and bulky epically when maneuvering through your house possibly in the dark.  They also require two hands to use which makes it a tad bit more difficult opening doors and anything else that may come up when you are suspicious of an intruder.  230 grain JHP .45 sounds nice.

You can't really go wrong though because anything is better than nothing.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Snip]
    #12660445 - 05/31/10 11:25 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Shotguns are great but I'd opt for a handgun personally.  SG's are big and bulky epically when maneuvering through your house possibly in the dark.  They also require two hands to use which makes it a tad bit more difficult opening doors and anything else that may come up when you are suspicious of an intruder.  230 grain JHP .45 sounds nice.

You can't really go wrong though because anything is better than nothing.




Unless, you dont know how to use it.It cn be taken away and used on you...


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Brainiac]
    #12660611 - 05/31/10 12:16 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Definitely true.  OP, if you get a gun make sure you know WTF you are doing when your friends come a knockin' (which I pray won't happen to you again, fuck that shit).


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Snip]
    #12660710 - 05/31/10 12:39 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Shotguns are great but I'd opt for a handgun personally.  SG's are big and bulky epically when maneuvering through your house possibly in the dark.  They also require two hands to use which makes it a tad bit more difficult opening doors and anything else that may come up when you are suspicious of an intruder.  230 grain JHP .45 sounds nice.




That's exactly when you want a shotgun.

I'd bet on the shotgun guy any day of the week.  Shotguns are easy to aim even in the dark.  Once it's dark and you can't see your pistol sights you aren't going to be hitting shit.  Handguns are inaccurate anyways.

Do a little skeet shooting or bird hunting and that shotgun will be like an extension of your body.  You'll be able to hit anything, even on the run.  You just can't get that with pistols.

All you're going to do shooting wildly around corners with a pistol is shoot up your place.  If the robbers get in the door before you're ready you take cover around the next corner and blast them the second they come into the room you're covering.  Once they're down you finish doing what you need to with the butt of the shotgun.  I'm not saying kill them, but make sure they're down and out.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: fastfred]
    #12660764 - 05/31/10 12:54 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Handguns are only inaccurate in inaccurate hands (duh).  Ever heard of night sights? I guess not.

Also, who said anything about shooting around corners?


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: danielx]
    #12660851 - 05/31/10 01:12 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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thats one thing that thieves steal that cant be rebought- peace of mind.





True dat....

Sorry to hear about all of that BS (including your roommate and fiance being untrustworthy), bet it's been a rough couple days.

Sounds like you're doing what you can to make things secure, but you really do need to move ASAP. It's the only way your life will be able to regain stability. After something like that happens people will hear about it and it's only a matter of time before some other dude with criminal aspirations decides to give a run at your place, fortified or not. Doesn't matter if you stop growing, buy guns, and keep your head down- if you don't relocate you will be dealing with a similar situation in the future. Next time, you might not be as lucky as you just were to get knocked over by a crook with a non-violent streak....


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Snip]
    #12660891 - 05/31/10 01:20 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

telling someone who is untrained to get a pistol is terrible advice. shotguns are much easier to use in life and death situations. Plus, the sound of a racking shotgun is enough to stop most people in their tracks. :smirk:


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: danielx]
    #12660927 - 05/31/10 01:26 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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telling someone who is untrained to get a pistol is terrible advice. shotguns are much easier to use in life and death situations. Plus, the sound of a racking shotgun is enough to stop most people in their tracks. :smirk:




Agreed. Pistols are for personal defense in variable situations. Shotguns are much better for home defense because as danielx said, you usually don't need to actually fire the gun....


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: danielx]
    #12660960 - 05/31/10 01:35 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I'm doing my best to deal with the after effects of that night.  I'm trying to make the best of a bad situation.  Using the energy from it to improve my life. 

Based on the advice from here, lots of research and reading and discussing different topics with people experienced in such things I've decided on a few things. 

First thing I did was let my now former friends know I'm never growing again.  I may or may not some day but for the moment I'm out.  I was just doing it as a fun/educational/scientific endeavour and the side income was just a bonus.

I'm not going to turn into a paranoid nut job but at the same time I'm going to be a lot more mindful of keeping things safe and secure.  Doors locked, better locks.  Key entry points with stand-alone alarms/chimes + a full blown security system. 

I'm going to get a 12 gauge and learn how to use it.  I've never fired anything bigger then a paintball gun so it'll probably take a little getting used to.

Based on the advice from an old buddy who served in iraq and is an avid gun collector I'm going to get a mossberg 500 or similar model and do a few modifications to it including getting the shortest barrel that's legal (18" I think?) and using 00 buckshot.  Also adding a light to the barrel to both serve as a flashlight and the shotgun equivalent of a laser sight at close to medium range. 

Those are my short term goals.  My long term involve moving but it'll be several months before that's possible. 

Thanks for all the advice and information, you guys have been a great help with dealing with this shit.  It has been a rough week.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: danielx]
    #12661353 - 05/31/10 03:07 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

870's are super nice shotguns too.  It's what I own.

For the record, I said what I prefer and my reasons why I prefer it.  I also said that you can't go wrong with a SG or pistol.  I also said that training is mandatory.

Jeez, you guys can't read worth shit.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Nyawinge]
    #12661385 - 05/31/10 03:14 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

It's also terrible advice to tell someone that racking the shotgun for intimidation is a good home defense plan.

You are basically telling the intruder exactly where you are.

Come on guys, its not like in the movies...


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Snip]
    #12661946 - 05/31/10 05:01 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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870's are super nice shotguns too.  It's what I own.

For the record, I said what I prefer and my reasons why I prefer it.  I also said that you can't go wrong with a SG or pistol.  I also said that training is mandatory.

Jeez, you guys can't read worth shit.





I don't think anyone here is interested in having a debate about firearms with you.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Snip]
    #12662225 - 05/31/10 06:00 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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It's also terrible advice to tell someone that racking the shotgun for intimidation is a good home defense plan.

You are basically telling the intruder exactly where you are.

Come on guys, its not like in the movies...




actually, that advice saved a friends life. All my friend had to do was rack his shotgun and the intruder stopped dead in his tracks. A shotgun racking is a universal sound for stop. youre right, these arent movies, your not suppose to use stealth tactics when someone is breaking into your house. :rolleyes: :rofl2:


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: danielx]
    #12662499 - 05/31/10 06:38 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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It's also terrible advice to tell someone that racking the shotgun for intimidation is a good home defense plan.

You are basically telling the intruder exactly where you are.

Come on guys, its not like in the movies...




actually, that advice saved a friends life. All my friend had to do was rack his shotgun and the intruder stopped dead in his tracks. A shotgun racking is a universal sound for stop. youre right, these arent movies, your not suppose to use stealth tactics when someone is breaking into your house. :rolleyes: :rofl2:




Even if you don't know where he is?  I'd rather get the jump on him.  I'm sure racking the slide is enough for some intruders but probably not all.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Snip]
    #12662808 - 05/31/10 07:35 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Handguns are only inaccurate in inaccurate hands (duh).  Ever heard of night sights? I guess not.




Spoken like someone who has no clue whatsoever about firearms.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: fastfred]
    #12667150 - 06/01/10 03:06 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

It's easy to say you will shoot someone, if they robs you..When someone does, it changes them/you forever.Later on, they/you are more then likey kill your self...


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12668706 - 06/01/10 07:58 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I am curious to know how much they actually got away with...

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: ben_dover0802]
    #12678338 - 06/03/10 12:13 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Dude, IMO shotguns r great for doing damage.. but ask yourself.. is that really what u want?

First of all its gonna do a fucking number on ur house(god forbid u need to fire it inside, u may not be able to hear for a week) and if u actually hit the person with it, ur gonna have an even bigger mess on your hands...a big, red, goopy, gutty mess.

If i were in ur situation, a nice moderately-powerful hand gun would do the trick. Cons, u have to get it registered. Pros, easier to hide, easier to get a shot off with(drawing, aiming, and pulling the trigger), and in most cases equally lethal.

Just my .2 cents...and getting robbed sucks..got my house broken into twice in the same year..

who ever said peace of mind is something robbers take that u cant buy back is a wise wise man...but it just goes to show u dude, everything they stole from u(besides your POM of course) can be replaced with some good ol' george washingtons...no need to take revenge, what goes around comes around..learn from ur mistakes and dont let it happen again..best thing u can do man

glad to hear ur alright though. Those guys r a bunch of pussys, karma will catch up with them eventually.

And until then, sit back relax and try to move on. Take it easy brother, best wishes to ya


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: ben_dover0802]
    #12683347 - 06/04/10 07:46 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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I am curious to know how much they actually got away with...




About a pound of albino penis envy.

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    #12683393 - 06/04/10 08:04 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Bump. So you're gf recently started cheating, and you magically got robbed of a product that only a) she knew about or b) your custies know about or c) she sold you out.

How do you not recognize them? Or maybe remotely have an inkling of who it was?

Nvm, saw the part about the roomie.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Razzl3Frazzl3]
    #12684012 - 06/04/10 10:34 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Bump. So you're gf recently started cheating, and you magically got robbed of a product that only a) she knew about or b) your custies know about or c) she sold you out.

How do you not recognize them? Or maybe remotely have an inkling of who it was?

Nvm, saw the part about the roomie.




She wasn't local and I would have given her any amount she wanted anyway for free.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12690808 - 06/05/10 11:12 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

grow some poisonious mushrooms!! and if they come back and thake those :evil: good luck to em..  glad your alrite man! people do anything for stupid shit..


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    #12692211 - 06/05/10 03:32 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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grow some poisonious mushrooms!! and if they come back and thake those :evil: good luck to em..  glad your alrite man! people do anything for stupid shit..





now theres an idea. go pick some death angels and give those to them


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    #12693312 - 06/05/10 06:58 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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I am curious to know how much they actually got away with...




About a pound of albino penis envy.




Damn man that sucks. With that much success they might just be dumb enough to try again. I hope you give them whats coming if they do (at the very least some ruined underwear and a incentive to find a real job).

BTW the poisonous mushrooms really wouldn't be a bad idea for the violent thieves.

Better luck with any future similar situations.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: ben_dover0802]
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I heard a few days afterwards that someone was selling a bunch of shrooms for $100/ounce nearby.

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    #12694477 - 06/05/10 11:16 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

That seems like a fair price to me....

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    #12695614 - 06/06/10 04:54 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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That seems like a fair price to me....




Considering I was selling it for $200-250 per ounce, the people who bought it from me were reselling it whole for $350/o and those people were reselling for 30-40 per gram.  It's fucking ridiculous, I know.

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    #12697412 - 06/06/10 01:56 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

geezus dude you aren't the only one getting robbed.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: tripp23]
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grow some poisonious mushrooms!! and if they come back and thake those :evil: good luck to em..  glad your alrite man! people do anything for stupid shit..




They will probably sell what they steal not eat it. A lot of innocents would get poisoned :thumbdown:

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    #12697618 - 06/06/10 02:34 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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maybe invest in a large headed pit pull too.. those things can tear shit up

shit get 2 or 3 no one will ever think to fuck with you..




Negative. Get a quality Shepherd of some kind, Either Dutch, Belgian Malinois, or German Shepherd.

Pit Bulls make horrible Guard Dogs really.

Also, guard dogs generally have to be trained or you'd be lucky to get a guard dog that will lay its life on the line for you.

Get a yapping Jack Russell Terrier that barks at everything, than invest in a .45 or Old LE Remington 870 Shotguns.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: GrassRackets]
    #12701279 - 06/07/10 02:02 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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maybe invest in a large headed pit pull too.. those things can tear shit up

shit get 2 or 3 no one will ever think to fuck with you..




Negative. Get a quality Shepherd of some kind, Either Dutch, Belgian Malinois, or German Shepherd.

Pit Bulls make horrible Guard Dogs really.

Also, guard dogs generally have to be trained or you'd be lucky to get a guard dog that will lay its life on the line for you.

Get a yapping Jack Russell Terrier that barks at everything, than invest in a .45 or Old LE Remington 870 Shotguns.

Where were your dogs #1.





In the original post he talked about dogs. I have lovey dovey Labs, but they still scare people.

OP, what kind of dogs let you get robbed?

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    #12702565 - 06/07/10 11:28 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

haha u ever been shot by a .22 dude? it may not leave the biggest exit wound, but it certainly doesnt feel like a paintball gun. that shit will stop u in ur tracks and make u cry like a bitch.

they also make .22 hollow points..those would make an nfl line backer cry like a bitch.

also another handy tidbit.... a .22 is powerful enough to penetrate the skull, but not powerful enough to exit the skull. That always fascinated me.
There was also that hitman who killed madddddd dudes..weapon of choice, .22. He would shoot it straight down into their head and the bullet would just get lost in their body. Would be a hell of alot of work for the ME's to get that shit out, especially if its a hollow point.


Just throwing that out there...dont count the .22 out just cause its small..its big enough!

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: shrumy]
    #12702589 - 06/07/10 11:35 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Gotta be ready for them.



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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: GrassRackets]
    #12705983 - 06/07/10 09:50 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

> dont count the .22 out just cause its small..its big enough!

Sure it can kill if it hits the right part of your body.  But it seems like you don't realize that it's not that easy.

To drop someone instantly you have to hit them in the heart or the brain.  It's foolish to shoot for the head since it moves around a lot more than the body and is a small target.  If you shoot for the torso there's a lot of area there, but only a small kill zone.

So yes, a .22 won't do jack shit in a real gun fight.  You can easily empty a dozen rounds into them without getting a drop shot.

It's all about stopping power.  With bigger rounds it doesn't matter nearly as much where you hit them.  You can hit someone in the shoulder with a shotgun slug and it will drop them, that's because it just blew a 1-inch hole in their shoulder, possibly detaching their arm.  You can hit them 10 times with a .22 in the shoulder and it isn't going to stop a determined attacker.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: fastfred]
    #12714052 - 06/09/10 09:04 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

u try to kill everyone that breaks in fastfred?

And maybe it wont stop them if u hit them 10 times in the shoulder(even though it probably would), if u hit them in the shoulder, a couple times in the torso, a couple of leg shots even. that fucker is down for the count, i dont care how determined he is. Im also 10x more accurate with my .22 then my .38 special or any other larger caliber gun i posses(all registered:wink:) and my .22 rifle, forget it. I could hit a soda can from miles away with that thing, dead accurate.

But ur certainly right, bigger caliber, more stopping power. All i was saying is a .22 would do the job. Which it would...nice 10 shot clip, empty that out on those suckers. Unless theyre wearing body armor or are actual bears(unlikely), then a .22 will work.

But to each his own man, not trying to argue just state a point.

Did u ever get around to picking a gun up OP?


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: shrumy]
    #12714070 - 06/09/10 09:14 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Did u ever get around to picking a gun up OP?




Decided on 3 different models.

1: Maverick Security 88: 12gauge with 8 shell capacity.

2: 22 rifle

3: Remington 700 Mountain LSS edition.

Decided to move out to the country in a few months and my backyard will be a couple thousand acres of forest to hunt on :-D

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12714092 - 06/09/10 09:21 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

For $300 you can get a used Old Version LE Remington 870. Which would be a better choice
I used to have a .22 rifle that would shoot 17 rounds, it was semi automatic but really nice. Ended up selling it but it was the best .22 rifle I ever owned. It was the one where the loading part was under the barrel of the gun, you pulled it out and loaded in near the trigger, in front of the trigger.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: shrumy]
    #12714129 - 06/09/10 09:31 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Dude, IMO shotguns r great for doing damage.. but ask yourself.. is that really what u want?

First of all its gonna do a fucking number on ur house(god forbid u need to fire it inside, u may not be able to hear for a week) and if u actually hit the person with it, ur gonna have an even bigger mess on your hands...a big, red, goopy, gutty mess.

If i were in ur situation, a nice moderately-powerful hand gun would do the trick. Cons, u have to get it registered. Pros, easier to hide, easier to get a shot off with(drawing, aiming, and pulling the trigger), and in most cases equally lethal.

Just my .2 cents...and getting robbed sucks..got my house broken into twice in the same year..

who ever said peace of mind is something robbers take that u cant buy back is a wise wise man...but it just goes to show u dude, everything they stole from u(besides your POM of course) can be replaced with some good ol' george washingtons...no need to take revenge, what goes around comes around..learn from ur mistakes and dont let it happen again..best thing u can do man

glad to hear ur alright though. Those guys r a bunch of pussys, karma will catch up with them eventually.

And until then, sit back relax and try to move on. Take it easy brother, best wishes to ya





I'm sorry but I've got a 12gauge and 16gauge hunting rifle at my parent's house in my room.  The 12gauge has a slug shot in the chamber and regular shot after that.  I figure if someone breaks into your house you're right, you don't want to fire widespread bb patterns through the walls.  Slugs my friend.
Plus a shotgun ain't gonna make you go def being fired inside unless you're in something the size of a bathroom. God knows your ears are going to ring like fuck for a few minutes after the shot's fired but you aren't going to go def.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Maverick]
    #12714212 - 06/09/10 10:07 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

haha no i know, i was just exaggerating. But even a slug man, picture that shit hitting ur tv...


Like i said before, thats just me. and my opinion. To tell u the truth, i would probably go with the shotgun because whats more important? Ensuring ur safety, or preserving ur belongings?

I guess ijsut never thought of it that way...shotgun here i come!


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Maverick]
    #12714410 - 06/09/10 11:00 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Dude, IMO shotguns r great for doing damage.. but ask yourself.. is that really what u want?

First of all its gonna do a fucking number on ur house(god forbid u need to fire it inside, u may not be able to hear for a week) and if u actually hit the person with it, ur gonna have an even bigger mess on your hands...a big, red, goopy, gutty mess.

If i were in ur situation, a nice moderately-powerful hand gun would do the trick. Cons, u have to get it registered. Pros, easier to hide, easier to get a shot off with(drawing, aiming, and pulling the trigger), and in most cases equally lethal.

Just my .2 cents...and getting robbed sucks..got my house broken into twice in the same year..

who ever said peace of mind is something robbers take that u cant buy back is a wise wise man...but it just goes to show u dude, everything they stole from u(besides your POM of course) can be replaced with some good ol' george washingtons...no need to take revenge, what goes around comes around..learn from ur mistakes and dont let it happen again..best thing u can do man

glad to hear ur alright though. Those guys r a bunch of pussys, karma will catch up with them eventually.

And until then, sit back relax and try to move on. Take it easy brother, best wishes to ya





I'm sorry but I've got a 12gauge and 16gauge hunting rifle at my parent's house in my room.  The 12gauge has a slug shot in the chamber and regular shot after that.  I figure if someone breaks into your house you're right, you don't want to fire widespread bb patterns through the walls.  Slugs my friend.
Plus a shotgun ain't gonna make you go def being fired inside unless you're in something the size of a bathroom. God knows your ears are going to ring like fuck for a few minutes after the shot's fired but you aren't going to go def.




So there's 3 things you clearly are lacking knowledge of. Firearms, self defense and physics.That slug will go through a wall (and a wall or 2 or 3 after that) far easier than pellets.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: shrumy]
    #12722038 - 06/10/10 06:02 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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u try to kill everyone that breaks in fastfred?




I someone breaks into my place they're there to kill me.  Nobody is stupid enough to try to rob me.  So yes, I'd be shooting to kill.

If someone's trying to break in I'd try to wound them.  They would probably a random prowler.  If someone makes it inside I'd shoot to kill.

Someone coming to kill me would bust right in so there'd be no fucking around outside.

Anyways you should always shoot to wound anytime they're outside your home.  Once they're inside you can shoot to kill.  As they say, dead men tell no tales.  If you leave them alive they'll certainly be telling the cops that they were selling magazines or some other bullshit, and that you just shot them for no reason.

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And maybe it wont stop them if u hit them 10 times in the shoulder(even though it probably would), if u hit them in the shoulder, a couple times in the torso, a couple of leg shots even. that fucker is down for the count, i dont care how determined he is.




Doesn't sound like you've done any real hunting.  If you shoot any man-sized animal with a .22 it isn't going to do shit, no matter how many rounds you put it it.  A .22 just doesn't do enough damage to do anything unless you hit the brain or spine.  Even a heart shot will sometimes not drop them.

A .22 is like getting stabbed with an icepick, it's going to take a shitload of stabs and then they aren't even down, they just run off to bleed out over the next few hours.

Anyways, a .22 just isn't suitable for defense.  The couple rounds you get off before your enemy blows you away with a real gun isn't going to do shit to him.  A .22 vs a bat or knife isn't even an advantage.

If you had a fight starting at 5 feet apart with the choice of a bat, knife, or .22, I'd take the bat and hope the other person took the knife or .22.  That one or two shots (if you even hit) wouldn't do shit, and it certainly wouldn't stop me from crushing your head with the bat.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: fastfred]
    #12725100 - 06/11/10 08:18 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

America's laws suck dick sometimes, but over here, if someone broke in to my house and I hit him with a bat I'd get done for assault.

It'd probably get dropped in court, but it'd get to court...



[Edit, this is what I was thinking of, the victim actually went to prison before they realised it was retarded]

A man jailed for hitting an intruder with a cricket bat after a knife gang held his family hostage was freed today after a public outcry.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23797488-set-free-man-who-beat-up-intruder-with-bat.do


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Frinkz]
    #12783575 - 06/22/10 09:48 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I would say that the best alarm system is a dog. My mom has 5 dogs, I guarantee that no one will be on the property unnoticed. A gun is a must also. Maybe even two, keep on opposite sides of the house/apt.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #12810182 - 06/26/10 10:48 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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grow some poisonious mushrooms!! and if they come back and thake those :evil: good luck to em..  glad your alrite man! people do anything for stupid shit..





now theres an idea. go pick some death angels and give those to them



Thats FUCKING STUPID. Why? Whoever stole from you is going to be SELLING whatever they get from you. So innocent people are going to get hurt.

This is what I did in my days of dealing from an apartment. I had a big bag of oregano with a bit of weed mixed in (for the smell) under my couch at all times (Nowadays you can get fake weed over the internet too). I got robbed twice, both times all they got was a bag of herbs and I managed to hang on to my actual goods.

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