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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Snip]
#12660710 - 05/31/10 12:39 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Snip said: Shotguns are great but I'd opt for a handgun personally. SG's are big and bulky epically when maneuvering through your house possibly in the dark. They also require two hands to use which makes it a tad bit more difficult opening doors and anything else that may come up when you are suspicious of an intruder. 230 grain JHP .45 sounds nice.
That's exactly when you want a shotgun.
I'd bet on the shotgun guy any day of the week. Shotguns are easy to aim even in the dark. Once it's dark and you can't see your pistol sights you aren't going to be hitting shit. Handguns are inaccurate anyways.
Do a little skeet shooting or bird hunting and that shotgun will be like an extension of your body. You'll be able to hit anything, even on the run. You just can't get that with pistols.
All you're going to do shooting wildly around corners with a pistol is shoot up your place. If the robbers get in the door before you're ready you take cover around the next corner and blast them the second they come into the room you're covering. Once they're down you finish doing what you need to with the butt of the shotgun. I'm not saying kill them, but make sure they're down and out.
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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: fastfred]
#12660764 - 05/31/10 12:54 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Handguns are only inaccurate in inaccurate hands (duh). Ever heard of night sights? I guess not.
Also, who said anything about shooting around corners?
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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: danielx]
#12660851 - 05/31/10 01:12 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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danielx said: thats one thing that thieves steal that cant be rebought- peace of mind.
True dat....
Sorry to hear about all of that BS (including your roommate and fiance being untrustworthy), bet it's been a rough couple days.
Sounds like you're doing what you can to make things secure, but you really do need to move ASAP. It's the only way your life will be able to regain stability. After something like that happens people will hear about it and it's only a matter of time before some other dude with criminal aspirations decides to give a run at your place, fortified or not. Doesn't matter if you stop growing, buy guns, and keep your head down- if you don't relocate you will be dealing with a similar situation in the future. Next time, you might not be as lucky as you just were to get knocked over by a crook with a non-violent streak....
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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Snip]
#12660891 - 05/31/10 01:20 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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telling someone who is untrained to get a pistol is terrible advice. shotguns are much easier to use in life and death situations. Plus, the sound of a racking shotgun is enough to stop most people in their tracks.
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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: danielx]
#12660927 - 05/31/10 01:26 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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danielx said: telling someone who is untrained to get a pistol is terrible advice. shotguns are much easier to use in life and death situations. Plus, the sound of a racking shotgun is enough to stop most people in their tracks. 
Agreed. Pistols are for personal defense in variable situations. Shotguns are much better for home defense because as danielx said, you usually don't need to actually fire the gun....
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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: danielx]
#12660960 - 05/31/10 01:35 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm doing my best to deal with the after effects of that night. I'm trying to make the best of a bad situation. Using the energy from it to improve my life.
Based on the advice from here, lots of research and reading and discussing different topics with people experienced in such things I've decided on a few things.
First thing I did was let my now former friends know I'm never growing again. I may or may not some day but for the moment I'm out. I was just doing it as a fun/educational/scientific endeavour and the side income was just a bonus.
I'm not going to turn into a paranoid nut job but at the same time I'm going to be a lot more mindful of keeping things safe and secure. Doors locked, better locks. Key entry points with stand-alone alarms/chimes + a full blown security system.
I'm going to get a 12 gauge and learn how to use it. I've never fired anything bigger then a paintball gun so it'll probably take a little getting used to.
Based on the advice from an old buddy who served in iraq and is an avid gun collector I'm going to get a mossberg 500 or similar model and do a few modifications to it including getting the shortest barrel that's legal (18" I think?) and using 00 buckshot. Also adding a light to the barrel to both serve as a flashlight and the shotgun equivalent of a laser sight at close to medium range.
Those are my short term goals. My long term involve moving but it'll be several months before that's possible.
Thanks for all the advice and information, you guys have been a great help with dealing with this shit. It has been a rough week.
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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: danielx]
#12661353 - 05/31/10 03:07 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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870's are super nice shotguns too. It's what I own.
For the record, I said what I prefer and my reasons why I prefer it. I also said that you can't go wrong with a SG or pistol. I also said that training is mandatory.
Jeez, you guys can't read worth shit.
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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Nyawinge]
#12661385 - 05/31/10 03:14 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's also terrible advice to tell someone that racking the shotgun for intimidation is a good home defense plan.
You are basically telling the intruder exactly where you are.
Come on guys, its not like in the movies...
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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Snip]
#12661946 - 05/31/10 05:01 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Snip said: 870's are super nice shotguns too. It's what I own.
For the record, I said what I prefer and my reasons why I prefer it. I also said that you can't go wrong with a SG or pistol. I also said that training is mandatory.
Jeez, you guys can't read worth shit.
I don't think anyone here is interested in having a debate about firearms with you.
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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Snip]
#12662225 - 05/31/10 06:00 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Snip said: It's also terrible advice to tell someone that racking the shotgun for intimidation is a good home defense plan.
You are basically telling the intruder exactly where you are.
Come on guys, its not like in the movies...
actually, that advice saved a friends life. All my friend had to do was rack his shotgun and the intruder stopped dead in his tracks. A shotgun racking is a universal sound for stop. youre right, these arent movies, your not suppose to use stealth tactics when someone is breaking into your house.
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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: danielx]
#12662499 - 05/31/10 06:38 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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danielx said:
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Snip said: It's also terrible advice to tell someone that racking the shotgun for intimidation is a good home defense plan.
You are basically telling the intruder exactly where you are.
Come on guys, its not like in the movies...
actually, that advice saved a friends life. All my friend had to do was rack his shotgun and the intruder stopped dead in his tracks. A shotgun racking is a universal sound for stop. youre right, these arent movies, your not suppose to use stealth tactics when someone is breaking into your house. 
Even if you don't know where he is? I'd rather get the jump on him. I'm sure racking the slide is enough for some intruders but probably not all.
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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Snip]
#12662808 - 05/31/10 07:35 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Snip said: Handguns are only inaccurate in inaccurate hands (duh). Ever heard of night sights? I guess not.
Spoken like someone who has no clue whatsoever about firearms.
Don't give advice when you don't know what you're talking about.
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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: fastfred]
#12667150 - 06/01/10 03:06 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's easy to say you will shoot someone, if they robs you..When someone does, it changes them/you forever.Later on, they/you are more then likey kill your self...
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I am curious to know how much they actually got away with...
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Dude, IMO shotguns r great for doing damage.. but ask yourself.. is that really what u want?
First of all its gonna do a fucking number on ur house(god forbid u need to fire it inside, u may not be able to hear for a week) and if u actually hit the person with it, ur gonna have an even bigger mess on your hands...a big, red, goopy, gutty mess.
If i were in ur situation, a nice moderately-powerful hand gun would do the trick. Cons, u have to get it registered. Pros, easier to hide, easier to get a shot off with(drawing, aiming, and pulling the trigger), and in most cases equally lethal.
Just my .2 cents...and getting robbed sucks..got my house broken into twice in the same year..
who ever said peace of mind is something robbers take that u cant buy back is a wise wise man...but it just goes to show u dude, everything they stole from u(besides your POM of course) can be replaced with some good ol' george washingtons...no need to take revenge, what goes around comes around..learn from ur mistakes and dont let it happen again..best thing u can do man
glad to hear ur alright though. Those guys r a bunch of pussys, karma will catch up with them eventually.
And until then, sit back relax and try to move on. Take it easy brother, best wishes to ya
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ben_dover0802 said: I am curious to know how much they actually got away with...
About a pound of albino penis envy.
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Bump. So you're gf recently started cheating, and you magically got robbed of a product that only a) she knew about or b) your custies know about or c) she sold you out.
How do you not recognize them? Or maybe remotely have an inkling of who it was?
Nvm, saw the part about the roomie.
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SquaReSaltine said: Bump. So you're gf recently started cheating, and you magically got robbed of a product that only a) she knew about or b) your custies know about or c) she sold you out.
How do you not recognize them? Or maybe remotely have an inkling of who it was?
Nvm, saw the part about the roomie.
She wasn't local and I would have given her any amount she wanted anyway for free.
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grow some poisonious mushrooms!! and if they come back and thake those good luck to em.. glad your alrite man! people do anything for stupid shit..
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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: tripp23]
#12692211 - 06/05/10 03:32 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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tripp23 said: grow some poisonious mushrooms!! and if they come back and thake those good luck to em.. glad your alrite man! people do anything for stupid shit..
now theres an idea. go pick some death angels and give those to them
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