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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12638508 - 05/27/10 01:12 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

...22 is not scary.  it will still kill ya but i use mine to shoot shit like rabits and squirls.  get a semi auto shotgun.  nuf said.  00 buck will fuck you up


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12638861 - 05/27/10 01:54 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Decided on a 22 rifle




:smilingpuppy:

all that will do is piss someone off... unless you hit them directly in the heart but good luck with that in a high intensity situation. you'd be better off with a baseball bat, or a shotgun like already mentioned.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12639214 - 05/27/10 02:41 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

jesus man, dont stake your life on a .22 rifle. get a 12 gauage shotgun for home protection.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: danielx]
    #12639643 - 05/27/10 04:03 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Hah, either move or kill them. Yes you are fucked. What is a security system going to do? Your joking right?

If you had a security system, I'd put a gun to your head an make you turn it off. You aren't safe now that you've been targeted. They are willing to go to the next level but you aren't. Game over.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: danielx]
    #12640121 - 05/27/10 05:18 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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jesus man, dont stake your life on a .22 rifle. get a 12 gauage shotgun for home protection.




After doing a little more research I decided on this option.  maverick 88 with 00 buckshot.  I didn't realize how weak .22's are and the models that look like assault rifles are pricey.

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What is a security system going to do?




It's a deterrent and notifier. 

Bottom line is if someone wants to get in your house, they can and will provided you don't live in an underground bunker and even then it's still technically possible but requires a lot more effort and expertise. 

However, we're talking about some punk thugs.  If they roll up and there's security lights coming on with signs they're probably going to bail.  If they don't they're going to run into windows that are bolted shut and doors that are reinforced and alarmed.

The alarm gives me time to grab my shotgun, dial 911 and be prepared to deal with the situation if need be.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12644627 - 05/28/10 10:53 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

+1 for high powered civilian weaponry.



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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Heffy]
    #12645179 - 05/28/10 12:50 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

LOL, a .22 and security system aren't going to do shit for you.  A dollar store buzzer alarm on the door will do just as well for scaring people off.

You need to look at why and how you got robbed. 

Why?  Loose lips, too many people knowing your shit (address even!?), people thinking you're weak, and shady dealings with bad characters.

How? They came right in after you!  You didn't check around before going up to your house, you didn't lock the door behind you, you didn't have a weapon, and you got taken by surprise.

If you don't fix those problems NOTHING else is going to help you.

Get a dog, a gun, pepper spray, and a baseball bat.  Your gun will mostly be for show.  Mount it on the wall so everyone you know knows you have a gun.  Talk about hunting often so that people you don't really even know will know that you have guns.

Slam that deadbolt the second you get inside and keep it locked at ALL times.  Keep your defense weapons near you or the door so they're handy whenever you open it.  With a deadbolt you will have plenty of time to get them ready before they get in.

Pepper spray is a highly underrated, but highly effective weapon.  You can open the door a crack (hopefully it's also on a chain) and hose them down if there's a problem.

Anyways, defending yourself is something only you can do and it's YOUR responsibility.  Cops and security companies can NEVER protect you from an immediate threat.

As far as a gun... shotguns are excellent home defense weapons.  They don't need paperwork (available at any MegaMart), you can load multiple types of rounds into them (alternating slugs and buckshot works well), they have a big barrel and are scary, racking a shell makes a highly identifiable sound (robbers will always run if they hear a shell racked, you don't even have to say anything), they are useful for hunting, and they are great for beating the shit out of people without even firing.  The rounds also won't go for miles, through multiple walls, etc., and kill neighbors, etc..

A 20ga. double barrel is fairly cheap and is plenty for what you need.  I only use a single shot and feel it's plenty.  Remember, you aren't going to be getting in an extended firefight anyways.  Criminals try to escape as soon as they know the cops are on the way, and a gunshot will do that very well.  You'll have a couple blocks of neighbors calling the cops as soon as a gun goes off.  The TV shit is not real, a gunshot is LOUD as fuck.  Half the town will hear.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: fastfred]
    #12647262 - 05/28/10 06:55 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Why?  Loose lips, too many people knowing your shit (address even!?), people thinking you're weak, and shady dealings with bad characters.

How? They came right in after you!  You didn't check around before going up to your house, you didn't lock the door behind you, you didn't have a weapon, and you got taken by surprise.




That's the main thing I've been focusing on since that night.  What do I do now/next.  It's affected my life pretty significantly.  I wasn't concerned with security prior to this, but now I consider it a priority.

As far as knowing my shit, I had 2 people who I dealt with.  Both of them were under strict orders not to reveal their source.  I'm not sure which of them fucked up or even if one of them was in on it. 

In the end, I don't even think it matters as I've cut ties with both.  I can never grow in this place again and won't even try.  First thing I did after they left was dispose of anything incriminating.    If the cops busted in right this second the only thing they'd find is a few shotgun terrariums and some gourmet edibles colonizing along with documentation.

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security system aren't going to do shit for you


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This I don't understand.  How will having every entry point wired up to ridiculously loud megaphone style alarm not do shit?  You said yourself in the same post that the robbers will generally run once they think police are on the way.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12647658 - 05/28/10 08:26 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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This I don't understand.  How will having every entry point wired up to ridiculously loud megaphone style alarm not do shit?  You said yourself in the same post that the robbers will generally run once they think police are on the way.




because at this point they know you are a punk. you are the ATM plain and simple. if they want to rob you all they have to do is wait for you to come home or come out of your house and stick a gun to your head. Then they have free reign of the house.

if your insistent on not leaving, fine. Stay armed to the teet. However, don't think you are invincible because you have a couple alarms.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12647732 - 05/28/10 08:44 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I wonder if you can legally get away with shooting them in the back after they leave you unattended.  I'd probably be so pissed off I'd do it as soon as they left.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: despisedicon]
    #12649823 - 05/29/10 10:08 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Shooting them in the back = First Degree murder..


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Brainiac]
    #12651433 - 05/29/10 04:01 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe where you're from :p    In texas your free to shoot until they get off your land.

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #12652357 - 05/29/10 07:41 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I can see that in texas, with it being overrunned by illegals....


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Brainiac]
    #12652693 - 05/29/10 08:57 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Um, if you have a security system that automatically calls the cops, then you could be in deep shit if you are growing, or even if you have anything. 

My suggestion is to reinforce the windows and doors with bars and to ALWAYS lock every single potential entrance to the house when you are not using it. 

Also get one of those brinks security signs, and post it in your yard.  You don't even have to have the system, the threat that you might will be enough to deter people.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: ChronicCluster]
    #12653591 - 05/30/10 12:22 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

> Also get one of those brinks security signs, and post it in your yard.

All a security system does is make them plan around it.  They'll figure out how to grab you so you have to disarm it or they'll hit you fast and hard, or they'll get you at another location.

I know people that laugh at those signs.  They say "Thanks now I know exactly what alarm system you have and will plan accordingly."


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Brainiac]
    #12654075 - 05/30/10 04:26 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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I can see that in texas, with it being overrunned by illegals....





you cant tell the difference when 36% of the population is latino


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: 2859558484]
    #12658997 - 05/31/10 12:54 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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I can see that in texas, with it being overrunned by illegals....





you cant tell the difference when 36% of the population is latino




36% of what population? The real population or the "legal" population?

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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12660288 - 05/31/10 10:46 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Shotguns are great but I'd opt for a handgun personally.  SG's are big and bulky epically when maneuvering through your house possibly in the dark.  They also require two hands to use which makes it a tad bit more difficult opening doors and anything else that may come up when you are suspicious of an intruder.  230 grain JHP .45 sounds nice.

You can't really go wrong though because anything is better than nothing.


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Snip]
    #12660445 - 05/31/10 11:25 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Shotguns are great but I'd opt for a handgun personally.  SG's are big and bulky epically when maneuvering through your house possibly in the dark.  They also require two hands to use which makes it a tad bit more difficult opening doors and anything else that may come up when you are suspicious of an intruder.  230 grain JHP .45 sounds nice.

You can't really go wrong though because anything is better than nothing.




Unless, you dont know how to use it.It cn be taken away and used on you...


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Re: Got Robbed Last Night [Re: Brainiac]
    #12660611 - 05/31/10 12:16 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Definitely true.  OP, if you get a gun make sure you know WTF you are doing when your friends come a knockin' (which I pray won't happen to you again, fuck that shit).


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