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can they kick my door in ?????
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Hello everyone can a pig kick in my door if someone tells them I'm growing. Didn't know where to go and ask so here I am, anyone know?
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: tonyshroom]
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tonyshroom said: Hello everyone can a pig kick in my door if someone tells them I'm growing. Didn't know where to go and ask so here I am, anyone know?
No they need a warrant and more cause then that
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: Shea25]
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I mean can they get a warrent if someone tells them you are? what if they will testify
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: tonyshroom]
#12606763 - 05/21/10 09:51 PM (14 years, 1 day ago) |
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tonyshroom said: I mean can they get a warrent if someone tells them you are? what if they will testify
Why so paranoid
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: Shea25]
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They like vampires, they try to trick you into letting them in. Don't ever believe em.
You have to remember some special magical incantations when you dealing with pigs. For example 'I do not consent to any searches.' is a good one. Also 'Is there anything else? May I leave now?'.
If you that paranoid, grow some reishi. It's super cool and gives you a valid explanation should you ever get interrogated about your activities.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: tonyshroom]
#12606777 - 05/21/10 09:53 PM (14 years, 1 day ago) |
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Are you a [PERSON] that all these stautes (not laws) apply to?
Download THIS and read it. Kinda like takin the Red Pill.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: anonjon]
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Some people I know got popped and the cops have really been cracking down in my lil town. There cleaning house. I don't sell drugs but I do do them . I think some would snitch. I like to think I know how to cover my ass with everything. But I was worryed about those couple of lose ends.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: tonyshroom]
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tonyshroom said: Hello everyone can a pig kick in my door if someone tells them I'm growing. Didn't know where to go and ask so here I am, anyone know?
Where do you live? What country do you live in? Do you live in the United States? If so what state? The answer to these questions and more can be found here @ the link below.
www.erowid.org
Click on the option Freedom & Law on the home page in the middle left hand corner. From there your own path can be found.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: bhaas]
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bhaas said: Are you a [PERSON] that all these stautes (not laws) apply to?
Download THIS and read it. Kinda like takin the Red Pill.
i took the red pill. very mind opening.
i liked: The son of a fellow I know was fleeced by the IRS who confiscated from his bank account $11,000. He wrote them a letter which included five (5) questions. The IRS agent invited him to his office in order to answer his questions. At the time of the meeting the IRS agent returned to his account the $11,000. You might want to know what the five questions were. He asked for answers to the following to be made under penalty of perjury: the law requiring Americans to pay income tax, their regulatory authority and delegated authority to address him, the law which made the IRS part of the Constitution, the agent’s oath of office, and the contract with both signatures on it. Since NONE of these exists, his $11,000 was refunded. Since an oath of office by any ‘public official’ is their swearing to uphold and protect our rights, we accept their oath of office into the matter at hand and they are bound to honour their oaths and stop attacking us. We are not bound to respond to anyone who has no oath of office. This Oath of Office limits those who are in the biz of confiscating our rights and freedoms. Always ask for it and if you don’t get one be sure to issue your own orders to them on what you want them to do.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: Shea25]
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tonyshroom said: Hello everyone can a pig kick in my door if someone tells them I'm growing. Didn't know where to go and ask so here I am, anyone know?
No they need a warrant and more cause then that
They don't need more cause than that. Remember what happened to the FLDS, and more recently that family in MO. They got warrants based on anonymous tips.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: anonjon]
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Smoke a bowl. Crank some tunes. Meditate and chill bro
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: Arkady]
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Yea, true that also I live in Canada,
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: Arkady]
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Arkady said: They don't need more cause than that. Remember what happened to the FLDS, and more recently that family in MO. They got warrants based on anonymous tips.
No clue what you're talking about but I do know this...Here in the U.S.A. they need more then heresay to get a warrant,BUT,hearsay is all the LEO's need to start an initial investigation i.e. watching you and your place,possibly rifling through your trash etc.
If they bust in your door without a warrant then all evidence will be thrown out of court.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: Shea25]
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I don't do anything like that, not that they could get me for. I burn everything and buy material with cash. I don't sell ether. So I hope I'm good. We will see! There are suposed to be more raids coming this week. They've been right so fair. 
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: tonyshroom]
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can they kick my door in ?????
The flashbang will get ya first.
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omg lol weird post. lock??
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: smurphy5000]
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smurphy5000 said: omg lol weird post. lock??
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: hamloaf]
#12607224 - 05/21/10 11:21 PM (14 years, 23 hours ago) |
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^lol fail
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: jingus]
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They would come at the ass crack of dawn to. Hell of a why to get woke up .
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: tonyshroom]
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Ha! Cops are nothing but lying bastards and will make up whatever they can to get a warrant! Caltrops out front and around the back! You will hear them coming! Oh and there is nothing illegal about having your own 'flashbangs' For security in your own yard either!
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: tonyshroom]
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Look, Bottom line. They will do what they want when they want and the burden of proof falls on the accused. The accused will be booked and will have to prepare the defense from within the confines of a highly controlled lock down situation where the only tools at your disposal are for the first few days is a telephone, then eventually you'll get your commissary complimentary bag of 1 1 1/2'' toothbrush small tube of bob barker tooth paste, small bar of soap,couple pieces of small paper and 2 small pencils..
telephone and pencils are your tools. you may use the telephone when and if it comes to you or you are deemed cleared to use it. you may call collect. who the hell are you going to call collect? collect on a cell phone? Sometimes you can but very rare.
Patriot act throws out all the mis info people believe. Just like in the movies when someone say's are you a cop? people belive that a cop has to tell you they are a cop, that is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard...
bullshit, cops lie all the time. don't count on what you think to be laws statutes or codes to protect you.
I cannot entertain this any longer it burns me to even try and explain the intricacies of law.
protect yourself, rely on only yourself and go with your instincts, but be cool calm and rational smoke some herb chillax, my brother.
Look into freeman on the land---meritime law and the A4V process, and get yourself a blacks law book, hehe ( look up the definition in there for human it says definition=Monster..hehe)
thats all I can say.
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Arkady said: They don't need more cause than that. Remember what happened to the FLDS, and more recently that family in MO. They got warrants based on anonymous tips.
No clue what you're talking about but I do know this...Here in the U.S.A. they need more then heresay to get a warrant,BUT,hearsay is all the LEO's need to start an initial investigation i.e. watching you and your place,possibly rifling through your trash etc.
If they bust in your door without a warrant then all evidence will be thrown out of court.
This is what I referred to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YFZ_Ranch In TX, multiple homes raided, children taken from their families all based on an anonymous tip from some lady in CO. She made it all up but it was still enough to obtain a warrant. Think about it.
This one was in the news recently.
Note the warrants for those raids were based on anonymous tips. Do they need a warrant Yes. Does the information to obtain the warrant need to be credible? NO!
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: Arkady]
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Well let's see here...of course they're not going to fuck around when their is belief that a minor may be being harmed!
Also,those "ranches" as they call them,aren't looked upon very well...do I need to bring up a little place called Waco,Tx...or how bout Jim Jones?!
And your little video proves nothing,there was no mention of the warrant being on hearsay. What I do know is where I live,you NEED more then hearsay.Hearsay can initiate an investigation though,and if the police find incriminating evidence,they can then obtain a search warrant.
I know my shit,at least for the state I live in...both my parents are lawyers,so I've kind of grown up around the law so to speak.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: tonyshroom]
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tonyshroom said: I mean can they get a warrent if someone tells them you are? what if they will testify
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: Freakdaddy]
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man i cant believe they shot the dog what a bunch of faggot bitches. i mean for real they have like 80 pounds of fucking body armor and they gotta shoot the dog.
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And your little video proves nothing,there was no mention of the warrant being on hearsay. What I do know is where I live,you NEED more then hearsay.Hearsay can initiate an investigation though,and if the police find incriminating evidence,they can then obtain a search warrant.
Dude, where have you been the last few weeks? That video has been on major news networks. The police got a warrant based on an anonymous tip. This was discussed on Fox News Freedom Watch
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: fungus_tao]
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That might be the problem...the fact that I do not watch Fox news.
And if indeed everything was based on hearsay,it will be thrown out of court.
All I know is how things go down in my state...a judge in my state will NOT sign a warrant unless there is incriminating evidence.I'm sure if wackos moved into my state and tried starting a "Ranch" and some word got out about a minor being abused (whether sexually or not) that our LEO's would do the same as what was done in Texas (just to make sure the children are alright)...of course it would be thrown out of court in a heartbeat here,and any evidence compiled after the illegal search (and seizure) would be held inadmissible in court...in my state.
Believe me,I personally know people (friends of mine actually,in my state) that were growing weed.There was some hearsay,cops did an investigation but did not compile any evidence against said people.They did an illegal search and seizure and found plants,lights,hydro systems,etc. and guess what....it was all thrown out of court!
Give the shit in Texas some time dude....if you've ever been in any trouble with the law,had to go to court,fight for your rights and go to TRIAL,then you would know that our judicial system is slower then all holy hell.
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The Quote:
Mad Hatter 2010 said: That might be the problem...the fact that I do not watch Fox news.
That might be the most overused lame excuse for being uniformed, in history.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: Arkady]
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This is what I referred to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YFZ_Ranch In TX, multiple homes raided, children taken from their families all based on an anonymous tip from some lady in CO. She made it all up but it was still enough to obtain a warrant. Think about it.
From your link: "a local domestic violence shelter hotline took a call from a female claiming to be a 16-year-old victim of physical and sexual abuse at the church's YFZ Ranch.[17][18] The girl who identified herself as "Sarah""
How is that anonymous? Just because it wasnt credible..its a supposed 16 year old being abused, that has to be looked into. And just like suspending a cop who shot someone, even if hes in the right, for the investigation, they got the kids out for the investigation. Just to be sure.
An anonymous tip would be "hey this guy up the street is growing mushrooms but I dont want to give my name" Not hey, my name is Ginger and I'm being abused at my home here.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: ModularMind]
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Whatever you say...do you have a problem with me not liking Fox news?!
Do you have a problem with me not really liking to watch television at all?
Do you have a problem with me seeing "ranch" and just passing it over,saying to myself,"oh well,just some more wackos in Texas"...
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: scatmanrav]
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This is what I referred to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YFZ_Ranch In TX, multiple homes raided, children taken from their families all based on an anonymous tip from some lady in CO. She made it all up but it was still enough to obtain a warrant. Think about it.
From your link: "a local domestic violence shelter hotline took a call from a female claiming to be a 16-year-old victim of physical and sexual abuse at the church's YFZ Ranch.[17][18] The girl who identified herself as "Sarah""
How is that anonymous? Just because it wasnt credible..its a supposed 16 year old being abused, that has to be looked into. And just like suspending a cop who shot someone, even if hes in the right, for the investigation, they got the kids out for the investigation. Just to be sure.
An anonymous tip would be "hey this guy up the street is growing mushrooms but I dont want to give my name" Not hey, my name is Ginger and I'm being abused at my home here.
Thank you...at least there is one other member in this thread that hasn't burnt themselves out and knows their shit
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This is off topic here, but let me relate a little story that happened to me in 1998. I've mentioned before that I lived in the shit-state of Oklahoma for a period of time in the 1980s and 90s, and had a pot growing op. Someone snitched on me for no other reason than to get my house. In that state, they had a program where if you snitched and they confiscated the property and vehicles, etc., they would spit the proceeds 50/50 between the state and the snitch. This snitch was going on nothing but hearsay, but they got the warrant anyway.
Fortunately for me, I was well-connected(translation: I paid my dues to leo) and had about 24 hours notice that the raid was coming, which gave me time to clean everything out and leave. When they raided and found nothing, they planted ten pounds of weed in my house, plus scales, etc., to 'find'.
Don't assume because they're 'supposed' to get a warrant that the cops play by the rules. Judges secretly but routinely sign blank warrants on Friday afternoon so they won't get bothered over the weekend if the cops want to raid someone. As long as they 'find' something in the raid, it's awfully hard to challenge the warrant later based on probable cause.
That episode bankrupted me, cost me a house, a marriage, two Harleys, two airplanes, cars, etc., but in the end I got off on a technicality because there were multiple jurisdictions involved in the raid and not all of them were in on planting the dope. The local authorities planted the weed, but through a long process of discovery, I found that the DEA and FBI reported that 'no drugs were found' and that's how I was able to get out of it. However, had I not had the cash for lawyers, private investigators, etc., I'd still be rotting in an Oklahoma prison.
Your best bet is to be legal, but if you decide to deviate from that, tell no one, don't live in a state south of the mason/dixon line,(or a similar country) and keep anything illegal away from your home. RR
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: RogerRabbit]
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That sucks that happened to you RR!
Like I said before,I only know the law in my state...I have never been to Texas (and I have no desire to ever go there).One thing I know about Texas is that they are famous for their "ranches".
But I think scatmanrav summed it up perfectly.They thought a minor or minors were in trouble,they have to act on that...period.
And to anyone fearing that something might happen to them and that the cops might plant evidence....that's why I have many many security cams,inside,and outside my home and around the property line,each corner of my home has two cameras pointing in different directions,inside a camera in each corner of every room...paranoid,no not really.Making sure my home and thinsg and family are safe...damn right!
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HEY!
Dont start assuming here.
Who says I havnt burnt myself out?

As far as that video..your right that was done with an anonymous tip..and heresay. And it shouldnt have been. And now the police are getting into big trouble. I think Mad Hatter meant, they cant do it without getting into trouble, or lying.
BTW, dont feel bad I dont like FOX news, or any news either..this is the first I'm hearing of the story too. Awful...
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News can be found anywhere.
All media outlets are bias.
Saying "I don't watch Fox News" only proves that your opinion is based on a narrow point of view.
Either you take all perspectives and form your own conclusions, or you are just being spoon fed what your particular news source would give you.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: scatmanrav]
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No no,they can do it without getting into trouble,that's why YOU have to cover your ass,tie up all loose ends etc.
In my state though...nope,thrown out of court.
And I don;t feel bad for not watching fox news or any depressing news...I just had to call him out on his foolish comment.
Modularmind...I have no preferred news source...I just don't like Fox news.
So please,stop assuming because all you do when you assume is make an ass out of you and me.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: ModularMind]
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Why cant I take all but one? I can find dozens of resources online for news, why MUST I watch FOX? Not that I dont like only FOX news, I dont like ALL news. I probably "watch" FOX news more then any other news because my wife does.
What I really mean to say is I rarely LISTEN to what FOX news has to say when it comes to drugs, because I dislike most of it.
Taking what FOX says as fact, or any news service for that matter, is just being spoon fed what a particular news source would give you.
Very interesting read RR, never heard about that happening.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: scatmanrav]
#12649745 - 05/29/10 09:49 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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scatmanrav said: Taking what FOX says as fact, or any news service for that matter, is just being spoon fed what a particular news source would give you.
yeah,that just happened 
to scatmanrav.
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Let's not forget something: Fox 'news' went to court to sue for the right to lie on the air, claiming their news isn't actually news, but entertainment. They won. RR
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#12649813 - 05/29/10 10:06 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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At least the Daily Show is up front about their lies/entertainment.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: scatmanrav]
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#12649926 - 05/29/10 10:31 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Let's not forget something: Fox 'news' went to court to sue for the right to lie on the air, claiming their news isn't actually news, but entertainment. They won. RR
no shit? that is still misleading. nowhere in thier program do they tell us that. i remember when newspeople had integrity, and put great effort into bringing us unbiased news. but i was just a dumb little kid then, so what did i know?
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: drewb149]
#12649943 - 05/29/10 10:34 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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drewb149 said: man i cant believe they shot the dog what a bunch of faggot bitches. i mean for real they have like 80 pounds of fucking body armor and they gotta shoot the dog. 
When all was said and done I would track down every one of those motherfuckers and make them pay for killing my dog.
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drewb149 said: man i cant believe they shot the dog what a bunch of faggot bitches. i mean for real they have like 80 pounds of fucking body armor and they gotta shoot the dog. 
When all was said and done I would track down every one of those motherfuckers and make them pay for killing my dog.
i dont think i would have held my tongue of fists as well as that dude.
those cops would have had a problem
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Are you a PERSON in the legal sense? Legal and illegal are fictions (fraud) Law and Lawful are real.
Where's the injured third party? WHO has a bonefied claim? NO ONE!
Go here: http://www.creditorsincommerce.com/ and listen to all the Gordon Hall audios. You'll def learn something.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: bhaas]
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: drewb149]
#12650016 - 05/29/10 10:50 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Are you calling me a spammer?
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: bhaas]
#12650030 - 05/29/10 10:52 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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what are those links even about the one looked like it was talking about the irs and the banks being in cohorts. it has nuthin to do with this case.
so yes.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: bhaas]
#12650039 - 05/29/10 10:54 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Probably sense your post didnt make any sense as far as I can see. Who are you even talking to?
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: bhaas]
#12650052 - 05/29/10 10:57 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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You obviously are lazy and don't want to read/research. No hope for you.
Did you even read one message besides the front page? Doesn't sound like it. I'm just trying to help someone out here.
Lots of valuable info for those that can see.
But whatever.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: bhaas]
#12650063 - 05/29/10 11:00 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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people dont like external links because they dont know where it leads.
and your original post made no sense.
why dont you go ahead and make a new post and detail what is in those links. and do it in the pub or something because its not cult related.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: scatmanrav]
#12650068 - 05/29/10 11:00 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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scatmanrav said: Probably sense your post didnt make any sense as far as I can see. Who are you even talking to?
Did the POLICE kick in someones door and falsely arrest them? That's who I was talking to.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: bhaas]
#12650114 - 05/29/10 11:11 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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bhaas said: You obviously are lazy and don't want to read/research. No hope for you.
Did you even read one message besides the front page? Doesn't sound like it. I'm just trying to help someone out here.
Lots of valuable info for those that can see.
But whatever.
I read it all, are you tripping? Did you read your own posts? You dont make sense.
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Did the POLICE kick in someones door and falsely arrest them? That's who I was talking to.
Not that I see. Other then RR over a decade or two ago. So who are you talking to? And explain how those links relate please. I guess I'm dumb because I cant figure it out, so bear with me and explain please.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: scatmanrav]
#12650159 - 05/29/10 11:22 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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I mistakenly thought that someone got their door kicked in by cops cause someone snitched. But it was just a question and didn't happen?
The Redemption by Method group deals with all kinds of law and how to defend yourself from crimes committed against you by code enforcers (COPS)
The audios at Creditors in Commerce deal with the same subjects and how to handle yourself in court. Neither are spam. Valuable info IMO. But maybe not.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: bhaas]
#12650167 - 05/29/10 11:25 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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well you have to explain that. makes more sense than this
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Where's the injured third party? WHO has a bonefied claim? NO ONE!
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: bhaas]
#12650197 - 05/29/10 11:31 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Are we cool now?
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: bhaas]
#12650237 - 05/29/10 11:41 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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we werent uncool lol. just wanna make sure people arent leading users to malicious websites.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: drewb149]
#12650361 - 05/29/10 12:19 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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drewb149 said: do it in the pub or something because its not cult related.
This thread was hardly ever cult related and ended up being full of ignorance and spice.
This is a general observation directed at no one in particular.
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not really on topic! (sorry) [Re: ModularMind]
#12650375 - 05/29/10 12:22 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Please dont be crappy about me posting here, but i was'nt sure where to post this and get an answer, i really need help!!
i have been reading through the forums for an answer for a while now and still i am not sure so i figured id just ask someone who knows what there doing! I have three rye grain mix pf cakes (vacuum autoclaved) and a lc syringe (Ecuador) from someone who says he has 20 yrs experience growing. the syringe looked healthy, all with white stringy things, now checking today its got kinda fuzzy balls of white, with 2 or 3 little black spots in, are the black things contams? also i inoculated 1 of the cakes with this lc 7 days ago, the mycelium after 3 days was looking very weird, transparent, not solid white, then after 5 days it stared showing a light red/purple (maybe burgundy) in the myc itself, today its still there and in some places the myc seems to be turning a little more white and looks to be still growing. I have asked the man i got them from and he assures me its ok?? but i really am thinking its some sort of contamination, it doesn't quite look like lipstick mold, or the nervo something(?) one. it does look to be part of the myc though hence asking for a second opinion!!!
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why do you all refuse to help/ give a reasonable answer, it seems to be that you are destroying a website intended to help noobs like me, instead its infested with arrogant pretentious drug fiends with demented fantasy of actually being scientists/ mycologist. i think the truth of the matter is that you simply can not answer me, and therefore reply with stupid dead head monkey remark. congratulations on further embarrassing an apparently intelligent race
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Are you sure. I could answer you.
You posted in a thread talking about the legality of kicking someones door in, about your cakes. I could answer I wont. Not even because you didnt read where to even post or start your own thread instead of jacking someone elses, just cause you just acted like an idiot with that last post.
"its infested with arrogant pretentious drug fiends with demented fantasy of actually being scientists/ mycologist."

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Re: can they kick my door in ????? (moved) [Re: tonyshroom]
#12650672 - 05/29/10 01:24 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.
Reason: I believe it's time to move this one to the appropriate forum. RR
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Re: not really on topic! (sorry) [Re: scatmanrav]
#12650767 - 05/29/10 01:43 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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SO AS A REPLY, YOU INSTEAD PROVE MY POINT! YOU TART, 1, THAT KINDA OF SHIT RESPONSE IS GIVEN TO ALL MOST EVERY NOOB ASKING ANY QUESTION ON HERE, NEVER A DIRECT ANSWER JUST A PISS POOR EXCUSE AS TO WHY YOU ARE'NT AND 2 MY DRUG AFFLICED FRIEND I CANNOT START MY OWN THREAD.... ( YES I HAVE TRIED)
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: ModularMind]
#12651051 - 05/29/10 02:44 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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drewb149 said: do it in the pub or something because its not cult related.
This thread was hardly ever cult related and ended up being full of ignorance and spice.
This is a general observation directed at no one in particular.
Only ignorance I saw in the last day was you talking about Fox news and then trying to say I only listen to one news media because I said I hate Fox news...yet you are the one with one preferred new source as all you kept bringing up was FOX NEWS!
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drewb149 said: do it in the pub or something because its not cult related.
This thread was hardly ever cult related and ended up being full of ignorance and spice.
This is a general observation directed at no one in particular.
Only ignorance I saw in the last day was you talking about Fox news and then trying to say I only listen to one news media because I said I hate Fox news...yet you are the one with one preferred new source as all you kept bringing up was FOX NEWS!
Did you not read that it was a general observation directed at no one individual?
Attack me, that's cool. At least I'm not a parroting little bitch on every TC's nuts.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: scatmanrav]
#12651542 - 05/29/10 04:29 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is what I referred to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YFZ_Ranch In TX, multiple homes raided, children taken from their families all based on an anonymous tip from some lady in CO. She made it all up but it was still enough to obtain a warrant. Think about it.
From your link: "a local domestic violence shelter hotline took a call from a female claiming to be a 16-year-old victim of physical and sexual abuse at the church's YFZ Ranch.[17][18] The girl who identified herself as "Sarah""
How is that anonymous? Just because it wasnt credible..its a supposed 16 year old being abused, that has to be looked into. And just like suspending a cop who shot someone, even if hes in the right, for the investigation, they got the kids out for the investigation. Just to be sure.
An anonymous tip would be "hey this guy up the street is growing mushrooms but I dont want to give my name" Not hey, my name is Ginger and I'm being abused at my home here.
It's anonymous because that person never existed! The call came from some 30 year old black woman in Colorado.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: Arkady]
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Yeah but they didnt know that at the time. You are looking at it from the future. Hindsight is 20/20 but if I'm a cop and I get a call saying "Im sarah, im 16 and this place is abusing me", and it sounds legit which it probably did since this lady has done this before, I'm going there. Thats not the same thing.
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: anonjon]
#12651591 - 05/29/10 04:41 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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anonjon said: They like vampires, they try to trick you into letting them in. Don't ever believe em.
You have to remember some special magical incantations when you dealing with pigs. For example 'I do not consent to any searches.' is a good one. Also 'Is there anything else? May I leave now?'
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Re: can they kick my door in ????? [Re: scatmanrav]
#12652369 - 05/29/10 07:44 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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scatmanrav said: Yeah but they didnt know that at the time. You are looking at it from the future. Hindsight is 20/20 but if I'm a cop and I get a call saying "Im sarah, im 16 and this place is abusing me", and it sounds legit which it probably did since this lady has done this before, I'm going there. Thats not the same thing.
It is still an anonymous tip. It doesn't matter who the person claimed to be or what was claimed to have happened. Are you high? Why are you having such a hard time understanding what an anonymous tip is? A person you don't know nor have ever met can call in an anonymous tip and claim you're abusing children. Then cops will raid your house. That's all there is to it. The cops obviously won't try to confirm the identity of the person, nor confirm the person actually exists. They will just get a blanket search warrant, search your home and take your children. You'll still be liable for any illegal activity found in your home even if such activity had nothing to do with foundation of the warrant under the "good faith" doctrine. The problem with your argument is it wasn't legitimate. The case against the FLDS was based on an anonymous tip that held absolutely no ground. There was no investigation, no follow up, no confirmation of any kind. They took the lie at face value and hope. Just like they did against that family in MO. Hundreds of people had their homes searched and children taken away for nothing. The fact the girl claimed to be an abused minor shouldn't have mattered. There is nothing in the 4th amendment or Constitution that suspends our rights because the claimant is underage, abused or a woman. The cops were lazy and they got away with it because the masses at large, who have a general dislike for religious people who aren't mainstream, didn't care about the FLDS.
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