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ChronicCluster
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What's the difference? [pics]
#12599890 - 05/20/10 06:17 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok, about a week ago I started my first shroom grow. I inoculated 6 jars using two different strains of cubes, Cambodian and B+.
half the jars are doing well, half of them look way different. The Cambodian looks exactly how I would expect it to look while the B+ looks very faint, and just looks weird to me...
This is the Cambodian

This is the B+ 
This is the B+ on top of the Cambodian for comparison. The flash from the camera made the B+ look a lot brighter than it actually is. It is actually so dark that it is barely visible.

EDIT: Way better Picture!
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genetics
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you say the flash makes it look different, so its hard to judge, but it could be a contamination? i say let it keep goin and if you notice anything really strange (discoloration, smell, etc) then toss it.
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Re: What's the difference? [pics] [Re: TacoHerder]
#12599939 - 05/20/10 06:23 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Genetics I have seen that exact thing
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Re: What's the difference? [pics] [Re: thatkid]
#12599944 - 05/20/10 06:24 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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actually that B+ looks kinda grey in the middle... could be early signs of contam, only time will tell.
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Shea25
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ChronicCluster said: Ok, about a week ago I started my first shroom grow. I inoculated 6 jars using two different strains of cubes, Cambodian and B+.
half the jars are doing well, half of them look way different. The Cambodian looks exactly how I would expect it to look while the B+ looks very faint, and just looks weird to me...
This is the Cambodian

This is the B+ 
This is the B+ on top of the Cambodian for comparison. The flash from the camera made the B+ look a lot brighter than it actually is. It is actually so dark that it is barely visible.

Flipping your jars around and putting them on your carpet floor sure wont help you/.
Most contams are 1 foot from the ground and you are laying them on the ground turning them over .Not a good idea
Edited by Shea25 (05/20/10 06:26 PM)
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Re: What's the difference? [pics] [Re: Shea25]
#12599967 - 05/20/10 06:28 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's definitely genetics.
mycelium takes on different "textures" (bad word for description though) and colors.
I've had mycelium in some of my tubs that were bright white, and STRINGY AS HELL, like small cuts of grass.
I've had mycelium that was darker in color , and the stringiness was more microscopic, so it almost looked just like cobweb - but it was indeed mycelium.
Personally, I think the really white, rhizomorphic mycelium is an indicator of health - but I could be wrong.
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Re: What's the difference? [pics] [Re: tekramrepus]
#12600018 - 05/20/10 06:36 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the opinions, guys!
Just wanted to make sure it wasn't contaminated. I'll be keeping an eye on it though.
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Taken from the Strain Question/Discussion thread
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Cervantes said: B+
B+ can be SLOWER growing than many other brand name cubes (but like EVERY cube, your experience may vary). B+ has been commonly known as a good strain for BEGINNING cultivators. Many believe B+ is a very forgiving strain which can grow in a wide range of temperatures and conditions.
Taken from the Strain Question/Discussion thread
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Cervantes said: Cambodian
Cambos are classic cubes.
Rumors of Cambos potency and aggressive colonization abound. Cambos are quite popular among many cultivators.
From Ralphsters:
I've seen them colonize a q jar in 6-8 days. They're faster then almost any cubby , Brazilians are just a little faster.
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Shea25
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Mad Hatter 2010 said: Taken from the Strain Question/Discussion thread
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Cervantes said: B+
B+ can be SLOWER growing than many other brand name cubes (but like EVERY cube, your experience may vary). B+ has been commonly known as a good strain for BEGINNING cultivators. Many believe B+ is a very forgiving strain which can grow in a wide range of temperatures and conditions.
Taken from the Strain Question/Discussion thread
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Cervantes said: Cambodian
Cambos are classic cubes.
Rumors of Cambos potency and aggressive colonization abound. Cambos are quite popular among many cultivators.
From Ralphsters:
I've seen them colonize a q jar in 6-8 days. They're faster then almost any cubby , Brazilians are just a little faster.
All that strain talk (how fast they can colonize jars) is up to genetics not the strain its self, I got done doing Brazilians fairly fresh print and it took 17 days to colonize, When I did cambo's they took just as long as any other strain.
And they all seem to have the same contam resistance 
Hell I'm sure there is alot of the people out there are growing a strain that's not what was written on the label
Edited by Shea25 (05/20/10 06:53 PM)
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Re: What's the difference? [pics] [Re: Shea25]
#12600155 - 05/20/10 06:59 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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ya, def just genetics. both these jars are B+. notice they have a very different grow pattern and rate. the rhizo was a fast colonizer, while the other was thick, yet slow. still both got the job done.

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Re: What's the difference? [pics] [Re: Shea25]
#12600362 - 05/20/10 07:32 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shea25 said: All that strain talk (how fast they can colonize jars) is up to genetics not the strain its self, I got done doing Brazilians fairly fresh print and it took 17 days to colonize, When I did cambo's they took just as long as any other strain.
Hell I'm sure there is alot of the people out there are growing a strain that's not what was written on the label
No shit sherlock....why do you think it's always been said that like with anything YOUR EXPERIENCE MAY VARY?!
I do however believe that what a vendor says is a damn good general guideline.
I have grown Cambodians and Brazilians,and they were quick as shit colonizers compared to some of the others I had grown...but like said before others experiences may vary.
I have not grown B+ myself but have friends that did,and they also have said that it is a fairly slow to average colonizer.
You're working with MS,not an isolated strain,so it's always a gamble IMO.
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No shit sherlock....why do you think it's always been said that like with anything YOUR EXPERIENCE MAY VARY?!
Could you be anymore of a dick
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Mad Hatter 2010



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Re: What's the difference? [pics] [Re: Shea25]
#12600415 - 05/20/10 07:40 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not trying to be a dick dude,but you knocking me and my intelligence like that is a dick move if I don't say so myself....of course it is all dependent on genetics,there is no denying that,but B+ has been known to be a slow to average colonizer...now working with a good isolate would be a different story wouldn't it?
If you wren't trying to knock me then I truly apologize....it's been a rough week and nerves are a bit jumpy...time for me to go medicate with some good herb.
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tekramrepus


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Mad Hatter 2010 said: Not trying to be a dick dude,but you knocking me and my intelligence like that is a dick move if I don't say so myself....of course it is all dependent on genetics,there is no denying that,but B+ has been known to be a slow to average colonizer...now working with a good isolate would be a different story wouldn't it?
If you wren't trying to knock me then I truly apologize....it's been a rough week and nerves are a bit jumpy...time for me to go medicate with some good herb.
Actually, I'm going to disagree.
Very few, if ANY characteristics are attributed to "race" or "strain" with cubes. Sure, you have examples like penis envy, where a very distinct, genetic difference is re-occuring among this "race".
But as taco herder pointed out above, with two different examples of B+ - the speed of colonization, the potency of fruit, and other 'traits' have NEVER been proven to be re-occuring based on 'race'
In other words, theres never been any credible evidence that one race of cubes colonize faster than another. I've seen DRASTIC differences between the FRUIT , COLONIZATION SPEED, POTENCY, and just about every thing else between prints of the same race, that came from the SAME BATCH OF CAPS.
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