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Re: Optimum substrate for cubes, Hpoo or Coir? [Re: drewb149]
    #12588121 - 05/18/10 07:25 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I hear that trich love it. It = wood.

Editted for clarity.


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Re: Optimum substrate for cubes, Hpoo or Coir? [Re: drewb149]
    #12588129 - 05/18/10 07:28 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

First of all, it's manure.  Poo is what mommy used to change out of your diaper.

Second, coir and horse manure are about equal in performance.  Both work very well and have excellent texture, colonization speeds, fruiting performance, moisture retention, etc.  If you live in a big city and make lots of money, buy coir from any pet shop.  If you live in the country and/or don't mind going into a field with a shovel, horse manure is free and therefore a better choice.

Third, most garden gypsum is remnants from drywall manufacturing plants in the US. Mine even has the brown and white paper scraps in it. If you live in china, it's made from the toxic wastes scrubbed from the smoke stacks of coal burning power plants and very toxic.  Some was shipped to the US during the housing  boom, but the owners of most of those houses are having to tear it all out.
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Re: Optimum substrate for cubes, Hpoo or Coir? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #12588207 - 05/18/10 07:44 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I was going to order some food grade gypsum but its made in china. I'm buying it from a oriental supply company. Do you thinks its safe for food?

sorry a bit off topic.


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Re: Optimum substrate for cubes, Hpoo or Coir? [Re: drewb149]
    #12588218 - 05/18/10 07:46 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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why would the wood fuck up your grow. i mean if you pasteurize right they should be fine. the only thing i can think of is that they might have been cedar or some other type of woodchip that is offensive to myc.




Wood chips in manure or compost can prevent mycelium growth leading to stalled out trays. trichoderma is also naturally present in woodchips which could possibly lead to contamination if not pasteurized properly. Mine stalled out half way thru the spawn run.


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Re: Optimum substrate for cubes, Hpoo or Coir? [Re: Base Icks]
    #12588317 - 05/18/10 08:06 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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I was going to order some food grade gypsum but its made in china. I'm buying it from a oriental supply company. Do you thinks its safe for food?

sorry a bit off topic.




China has a bad habit of mislabeling products. Like when pharmaceutical drugs sold to the US were found to have toxins in them, or my personal favorite, when alleged fuax furs from china used on designer jackets were pulled from the shelfs after the fur was positively identified as real dog fur. China's government doesn't regulate things the same way as the united states or other democratic nations.


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Re: Optimum substrate for cubes, Hpoo or Coir? [Re: Sci-Fi]
    #12588354 - 05/18/10 08:14 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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"plaster of paris is made of gypsum but I believe it's in the wrong form. You have to harden it and smash it up I've heard."

I didn't look at the bag itself, I just saw it said "Gypsum" labeled under it. Yes it was in the plaster section.. Isn't they just one type of gypsum? I would really hate to purchase it and screw my whole project. You think it could be drywall ground down to powder? :shrug:




Do not use drywall, It has additives and is not straight gypsum. If you live in an bigger town look up a garden center that caters to landscapers and sells things in bulk. If you find one there is a 90 percent chance that they sell gypsum.





I believe you are misinformed drywall is fine to use I have used it many times



I find drywall OK, but I'd avoid it for sclerotia. It all has strands of fiberglass for reinforcement.  That's not something I'd want to eat.


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Re: Optimum substrate for cubes, Hpoo or Coir? [Re: Sci-Fi]
    #12588365 - 05/18/10 08:16 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

my optimum substrate for cubes
- mix 50% coir to cpoo added a good amount of straw,paper,gypsum,and a small amount of BRF. after that mix in verm till the consistency wanted. after that wash rye grass seed but didn't soak it. then i add it to mix- about 20% of the mix was the rye grass seed.


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Re: Optimum substrate for cubes, Hpoo or Coir? [Re: bw86]
    #12588473 - 05/18/10 08:35 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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my optimum substrate for cubes
- mix 50% coir to cpoo added a good amount of straw,paper,gypsum,and a small amount of BRF. after that mix in verm till the consistency wanted. after that wash rye grass seed but didn't soak it. then i add it to mix- about 20% of the mix was the rye grass seed.




Hmmm, did you get any sprouts from that mix?


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Re: Optimum substrate for cubes, Hpoo or Coir? [Re: Shaggy Shaman]
    #12588508 - 05/18/10 08:42 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

seeds cant live threw PC'n
i dont allways use this mix only when i sterilize but that is my optimum substrate.when i pasteurize i do the same mix minus the RGS


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