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Re: Prepaid cell phones [Re: hotbod]
#12617973 - 05/24/10 01:48 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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> With text messages they have to prove who sent it.
LOL
If it comes from your phone there's a 99% chance YOU sent it. If you end up in court it's going to be you trying to prove you didn't send it. When you claim it wasn't you the jury is just going to believe you're a liar and it will only serve to discredit the entire rest of your testimony.
> "only idiots use text messages for anything sensitive." its the exact opposite.
You don't seem to be grasping the very simple concept of the difference between spoken word and actually recording your activities in written fashion.
When you actually write down your illegal activities in a place that can be seen without a search warrant you're just fucking retarded.
Myself and anyone I deal with would never give someone that stupid the time of day. If you did that in front of me or sent me a text I would smash your phone and probably beat the shit out of you.
What you're suggesting is the same as keeping written receipts of your dealings and saving them for the IRS to examine every year.
It's idiots like you that don't understand your constitutional rights and limitations that allow the DEA to make as many busts as they do each year.
I don't have time to go into all the many, many reasons that texts are stupid. But the difference between having written records that linger for years and can be accessed by any government official for almost any reason vs. having to have a legal wiretap in effect at the exact moment you make the call should be obvious to anyone of even average intelligence.
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Re: Prepaid cell phones [Re: fastfred]
#12618042 - 05/24/10 02:14 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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fastfred said: > With text messages they have to prove who sent it.
LOL
If it comes from your phone there's a 99% chance YOU sent it. If you end up in court it's going to be you trying to prove you didn't send it. When you claim it wasn't you the jury is just going to believe you're a liar and it will only serve to discredit the entire rest of your testimony.
> "only idiots use text messages for anything sensitive." its the exact opposite.
You don't seem to be grasping the very simple concept of the difference between spoken word and actually recording your activities in written fashion.
When you actually write down your illegal activities in a place that can be seen without a search warrant you're just fucking retarded.
Myself and anyone I deal with would never give someone that stupid the time of day. If you did that in front of me or sent me a text I would smash your phone and probably beat the shit out of you.
What you're suggesting is the same as keeping written receipts of your dealings and saving them for the IRS to examine every year.
It's idiots like you that don't understand your constitutional rights and limitations that allow the DEA to make as many busts as they do each year.
I don't have time to go into all the many, many reasons that texts are stupid. But the difference between having written records that linger for years and can be accessed by any government official for almost any reason vs. having to have a legal wiretap in effect at the exact moment you make the call should be obvious to anyone of even average intelligence.
-FF
first of all how would they prove to a jury or anyone for that matter that that phone belongs to you? and why would it matter if they can look back on it after years when you chuck your prepaid phone every couple months. you probably have the same phone youve had for 2 years you dumb mother fucker.
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Re: Prepaid cell phones [Re: hotbod]
#12618098 - 05/24/10 02:38 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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> first of all how would they prove to a jury or anyone for that matter that that phone belongs to you?
Wow, you're really slow aren't you. Did you read the part about location information being stored for 6 months to a year? Do you realize that every person you texted will be questioned about who sent it? Etc., etc., etc.. Not to mention that an ignorant fool like you will probably be busted with it in your pocket.
Even a grade schooler usually has the sense to realize that it's safer to whisper something in someone's ear rather than try to pass a note.
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Re: Prepaid cell phones [Re: fastfred]
#12619030 - 05/24/10 09:38 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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fastfred said:
Even a grade schooler usually has the sense to realize that it's safer to whisper something in someone's ear rather than try to pass a note.
-FF
Great analogy. Yea, I really don't think hotbod has much, if any, experience with the law.
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Re: Prepaid cell phones [Re: fastfred]
#12620114 - 05/24/10 01:24 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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fastfred said: > first of all how would they prove to a jury or anyone for that matter that that phone belongs to you?
Wow, you're really slow aren't you. Did you read the part about location information being stored for 6 months to a year? Do you realize that every person you texted will be questioned about who sent it? Etc., etc., etc.. Not to mention that an ignorant fool like you will probably be busted with it in your pocket.
Even a grade schooler usually has the sense to realize that it's safer to whisper something in someone's ear rather than try to pass a note.
-FF
lol if the cops would go around asking the people that i text with my business phone, i tell you a fact that none of them would say shit.
And for the location part of it, they can only narrow the location to a radius of a 100 metres. unless they use that U-TDOA technology and thats only up to a radius of 50 metres. so if you live in a highrise with over 200 apartments i think you are pretty safe.
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Re: Prepaid cell phones [Re: hotbod]
#12621983 - 05/24/10 07:14 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you're doing enough business that you need a prepaid phone, I would be willing to bet one of your contacts would associate your name with that number if they were under pressure from police.
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Re: Prepaid cell phones [Re: illuminati]
#12622068 - 05/24/10 07:29 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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illuminati said: If you're doing enough business that you need a prepaid phone, I would be willing to bet one of your contacts would associate your name with that number if they were under pressure from police.
nope
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Re: Prepaid cell phones [Re: hotbod]
#12624533 - 05/25/10 05:43 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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hotbod said: first of all how would they prove to a jury or anyone for that matter that that phone belongs to you? and why would it matter if they can look back on it after years when you chuck your prepaid phone every couple months. you probably have the same phone youve had for 2 years you dumb mother fucker.
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FF and illmuminati are spot on.
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Re: Prepaid cell phones [Re: Khaos]
#12625091 - 05/25/10 09:43 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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ROFL!
His 'homies' that text all day long are real solid I bet. None of them would ever roll on him. I mean what are you like 15?
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Re: Prepaid cell phones [Re: fastfred]
#12625311 - 05/25/10 10:41 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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That was pretty funny.
They probably all wear tights and call themselves "The Super Best Friend Homies Club".
I think you were overly generous when you guessed 15. 12 sounds about right.
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Or just change the number every couple months.... and change your voice with something custom.
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i didnt read the whole thread, so i dont know if anyone mentioned it, but there is a bill they are trying to pass as we speak where you cant buy a prepaid phone without using a credit card connected to your name, or a valid id, which is then photocopied.too lazy to find the link right now, but google something like prepaid cell phone legislation, or something along those lines.
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christdriver said: there is a bill they are trying to pass as we speak where you cant buy a prepaid phone without using a credit card connected to your name, or a valid id, which is then photocopied.too lazy to find the link right now, but google something like prepaid cell phone legislation, or something along those lines.
That would suck ass. Pre-Paid phones make the lives of all dealers easier and safer. My friend would have his pre paid for all his customers and a regular phone for his family and friends. There is a good chance that no one is or ever have been listening in on his phone, but it is a great way to separate the two very different parts of a DD's life.
Don't wana work today, got to see the family? Just turn off your pre-paid phone and your problem is gone!
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they will come up with ways to beat this. There was a story here not too long ago where some guy got in trouble for encrypting cell phones for criminals. It's not illegal to encrpyt your phone(not yet anyway, give it time ) but he was aware, I guess, that these guys we're doing illegal things. Namely, moving drugs
the article: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9008835#9008835
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