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Feed Your Head
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I tried really hard to study, I promise...
#12584443 - 05/18/10 08:59 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have been going through countless searches, different websites, trying so hard to understand spawning. A lot of people say the ratio it 1:4, or 1:3 and then they give cubic measurements and how that works...
Simply put; I don't understand math. It's Greek to me. I barely got by in school, graduated with all remedial math credits and the bare minimum to get by with a Regents diploma. I suck at it.
That's where I'm asking you guys to please pity me and just tell me straight up what to do with my jars.
I have one quart of WBS thats doing extremely well. 100% colonized, ready to spawn. I want to spawn all of my jars the mono tub way, but more than likely with a 9x14 pan. small flushes, few eights for me and some friends, nothing big; YET.
So what is the exact formula? I'm not talking about give me the lessons, I won't understand them. I'm not trying to be a dick, but I really just don't get it. It'll be a waste of your time, and mine to even try to understand it.
I just want to know exactly what to do because here's my logic and understanding with everything I read:
If I have the 1 quart of WBS, that'd mean I have to use 4 quarts of whatever I decide to use. So say I go 50/50 and use Verm and Coir. I'd have to fill up two quart jars with Verm, and 2 quart jars with Coir and that'd give me my 4:1 ratio. If that's correct maybe I'm not such an idiot after all but if you could give me some more than that, it'd be really appreciated.
Also, with that being said by my logic should I go to spawn 4 quarts of WBS, I'd need to measure out 8 quarts of Verm, 8 quarts of Coir. Mix it all up, wait for it to colonize and then move on to light for pinning/fruiting and what not.
So after that giant text I'm basically saying thank you, I'm an idiot and any help would be greatly appreciated.
I also have a a bunch of 1/2 pint jars of BRF I'd like to break up and spawn as well so following the logic of 1:4 ratio, Id fill up 4 half pint jars (2 Verm/2 Coir) mix well and etc. etc...
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Re: I tried really hard to study, I promise... [Re: Feed Your Head]
#12584468 - 05/18/10 09:06 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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For each colonized jar of grain, use 1, 2, 3 or more full jars of substrate. Find the amount you need for your tray by pouring jars of water into it and counting them. "One quart of water, ah haha. Two quarts of water, ah ha ha haaa" like the Count.
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Feed Your Head
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Re: I tried really hard to study, I promise... [Re: Doc_T]
#12584472 - 05/18/10 09:07 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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The amount I need is meaning what? To get the right depth? I read that could be anywhere from 1/4 inch to a full inch.
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Re: I tried really hard to study, I promise... [Re: Feed Your Head]
#12584477 - 05/18/10 09:08 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Feed Your Head said: with that being said by my logic should I go to spawn 4 quarts of WBS, I'd need to measure out 8 quarts of Verm, 8 quarts of Coir. Mix it all up, wait for it to colonize and then move on to light for pinning/fruiting and what not.
Right. Do not forget water though. Anyway I would use a 2:1 or a 3:1 ratio. Faster colonization and less chances to get contams.
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Feed Your Head
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Re: I tried really hard to study, I promise... [Re: LeopardMan]
#12584489 - 05/18/10 09:10 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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The water aspect is just getting the verm to field capacity, correct?
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Re: I tried really hard to study, I promise... [Re: Feed Your Head]
#12584517 - 05/18/10 09:17 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Feed Your Head said: The amount I need is meaning what? To get the right depth? I read that could be anywhere from 1/4 inch to a full inch.
That's casing layer depth. Substrate should be deeper, 4" is ideal.
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Re: I tried really hard to study, I promise... [Re: Feed Your Head]
#12584520 - 05/18/10 09:18 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Prepare your substrate as per tek (here). Then use a 2:1 ratio or a 3:1 ratio. That's all
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Feed Your Head
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Re: I tried really hard to study, I promise... [Re: LeopardMan]
#12584545 - 05/18/10 09:23 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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LeopardMan said: Prepare your substrate as per tek (here). Then use a 2:1 ratio or a 3:1 ratio. That's all 
That was the first Tek I saved in my bookmarks when I was originally going to do bulk. But only one of my jars is 100%, and the others are stalling like whoa so I'm gonna just try to do this one jar to get the hang of it. Now I know the sub has to be 80-90 before you add the spawn. If I make this huge amount of coir and verm (I have the coir and verm already from when I was gonna try bulk) can I keep it somewhere since I only need enough for one quart?
That being said, if that recipe is for 5 quarts does that mean all I have to do is make the layer 4" deep, mix it with the spawn on my smaller scale tin and it'll still work since the mixture is already perfect? Or do I have to use a specific amount?
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Re: I tried really hard to study, I promise... [Re: Feed Your Head]
#12584572 - 05/18/10 09:30 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Feed Your Head said:
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LeopardMan said: Prepare your substrate as per tek (here). Then use a 2:1 ratio or a 3:1 ratio. That's all 
If I make this huge amount of coir and verm (I have the coir and verm already from when I was gonna try bulk) can I keep it somewhere since I only need enough for one quart?
No. Prepare only the amount of sub you wanna use. Here math becomes useful. GL
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Edited by LeopardMan (05/18/10 09:32 AM)
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Feed Your Head
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Re: I tried really hard to study, I promise... [Re: LeopardMan]
#12584631 - 05/18/10 09:44 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Eh, you missed the part where I said I made the thread entirely based on the fact that I should be legally retarded when it comes to math. I don't get it. It's Greek. Even that witty link you just left to attempt to play me out really doesn't help, because I already stated I don't get math.
Taking that brick of coir, 4 quarts of water, and that 2 quarts of Verm that was said to be prepared for 5 quarts jars, and trying to break it down into amount to be used for 1 individual quart doesn't make sense to me because I don't get it.
x(1) - 4 = (pie)radius...diameter.
Don't get it. But thank you for the link to the tek, anyways.
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Re: I tried really hard to study, I promise... [Re: Feed Your Head]
#12584647 - 05/18/10 09:48 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cut everything down to 1/5.
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Re: I tried really hard to study, I promise... [Re: Doc_T]
#12584673 - 05/18/10 09:57 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Take 3 more empty jars and fill them to the same level as the grain jar, but fill them with your bulk sub material... then prepare the 3 jars worth of sub and mix 2 with your colonized jar, and add alittle bit of the 3rd jar across the top... wait a week or so, fruit.
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Feed Your Head
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Re: I tried really hard to study, I promise... [Re: Doc_T]
#12584680 - 05/18/10 10:00 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: Cut everything down to 1/5.
1/5 the brick of coir? 1/5 of 4 quarts of water? 1/5 of 2 quarts of verm?
i can basically eye out 1/5 of coir,
boil 4 quarts of water, measure out roughly 750 milliliters
take 2 quarts of verm, take out roughly 380 milliliters...
put in tin, mix with wbs, let colonize, start fruiting...
thats my logic.
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Re: I tried really hard to study, I promise... [Re: Feed Your Head]
#12584878 - 05/18/10 10:39 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yep. Do the coir by weight, flake pieces off w/ a short knife. 650g per brick / 5 = 130 grams coir.
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