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babydoll
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shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite
#12578954 - 05/17/10 01:23 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm going to be using the perlite humidification method and I was going to use a shotgun terranium. i've been reading that if you use perlite there isn't suppose to be any holes? but before I read that there are supposed to be 6 or so holes in the lid (from the re video). I'm now confused, is it okay to have the holes?
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conoshoto
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: babydoll]
#12579028 - 05/17/10 01:34 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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You should have small 1/4 in holes drilled on all 6 sides.
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babydoll
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: babydoll]
#12579034 - 05/17/10 01:35 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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also, should I dunk and roll immediately after I birth my cakes? or wait until I pick my first flush?
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: conoshoto]
#12579051 - 05/17/10 01:36 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dunk n roll then fruit. Then to get a second flush dunk again.
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: babydoll]
#12579061 - 05/17/10 01:38 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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babydoll said: i've been reading that if you use perlite there isn't suppose to be any holes?
Where on earth did you read that?  Did you watch RR's vids? They go over how to make one very well.
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: conoshoto]
#12579067 - 05/17/10 01:39 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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i dont dunk and roll at birth, but i do for the sequential flushes. its a personal preference.
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babydoll
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: FoxFire]
#12579083 - 05/17/10 01:41 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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it wa an article on here on perlite humidification technique
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: babydoll]
#12579095 - 05/17/10 01:43 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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puts lots of holes on all 6 sides. after fully colonized, let consolidate for a week, then dunk for 24 hours. rinse, roll in verm and put in chamber. light it 12/12 mist 3-4 times a day, and fan 5-6.
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: babydoll]
#12579135 - 05/17/10 01:50 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Crazy, must be way outdated. Ya drill 1/4 inch holes on all 6 sides, about 3-4 inches apart fill with 5-6 inches of moist perlite, be sure to elevate the whole shebang so air can circulate around all the sides and the bottom.
Elevating whatever you have in the shotgun up off the perlite will help also, more surface area of wet perlite = more humidity.
Good luck!
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: FoxFire]
#12579138 - 05/17/10 01:51 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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thanks guys!
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: babydoll]
#12579141 - 05/17/10 01:51 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
babydoll said: I'm going to be using the perlite humidification method and I was going to use a shotgun terranium. i've been reading that if you use perlite there isn't suppose to be any holes? but before I read that there are supposed to be 6 or so holes in the lid (from the re video). I'm now confused, is it okay to have the holes?
Build it just as RR shows you to in these links
http://www.shroomery.org/10254/PF-TEK-Update-The-Shotgun-Terrarium
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Terrarium-Tek
BTW...a lot of the articles that can be found under "Mushroom Info" at the top of the page are really outdated and should either be deleted or updated.
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ModularMind
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: Fungal growth]
#12579509 - 05/17/10 02:43 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fungal growth said: i dont dunk and roll at birth, but i do for the subsequent flushes. its a personal preference.
^Fixed
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Buddha420
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: babydoll]
#12579543 - 05/17/10 02:48 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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babydoll said: I'm going to be using the perlite humidification method and I was going to use a shotgun terranium. i've been reading that if you use perlite there isn't suppose to be any holes? but before I read that there are supposed to be 6 or so holes in the lid (from the re video). I'm now confused, is it okay to have the holes?
my experiments with perlite have ended in a 50% or higher contamination rate in cakes.
But the ones that didn't get infected had fruits 4-8 inches tall! Still, considering this outcome, the contamination rate has ended this experiment for me.
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: Buddha420]
#12579559 - 05/17/10 02:50 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Buddha420 said: my experiments with perlite have ended in a 50% or higher contamination rate in cakes.
Are you saying you blame perlite?
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Buddha420
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: ModularMind]
#12579600 - 05/17/10 02:58 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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ModularMind said:
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Buddha420 said: my experiments with perlite have ended in a 50% or higher contamination rate in cakes.
Are you saying you blame perlite?
im not blaming perlite, i'm stating the results of my experiments with it =)
sterilizing it a pain, and using it without sterilization produces a 50%+ contamination rate...at least in my experience
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ModularMind
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: Buddha420]
#12579626 - 05/17/10 03:02 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'd start looking for other shortcomings in your sterile culture technique.
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Fungal growth
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: ModularMind]
#12579636 - 05/17/10 03:03 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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ModularMind said:
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Fungal growth said: i dont dunk and roll at birth, but i do for the subsequent flushes. its a personal preference.
^Fixed
semantics, pfffft! flushes occur in sequence. 1st, 2nd, 3rd if your lucky and so on. i could throw up a definition but i dont care that much. the meaning was clear, or you wouldnt have known how to 'fix' it.
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Buddha420
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: ModularMind]
#12579643 - 05/17/10 03:05 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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ModularMind said: I'd start looking for other shortcomings in your sterile culture technique.
There are no other shortcomings. I as soon as I removed perlite, contamination rate has dropped significantly. I will post my set up here tonight once I'm done writing it. Then you will see exactly what I do and the results I have.
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ModularMind
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: Fungal growth]
#12579686 - 05/17/10 03:13 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fungal growth said: the meaning was clear, or you wouldnt have known how to 'fix' it.
I knew what you meant. Doesn't mean it was clear.
If your base tek is not the same as the subsequent tek it can't, by definition, be sequential. But yeah semantics.
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Re: shotgun terranium with holes or no for perlite [Re: ModularMind]
#12579707 - 05/17/10 03:16 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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my experiments with perlite have ended in a 50% or higher contamination rate in cakes.
How were you using the perlite?
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