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    #12577502 - 05/17/10 05:41 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: casing ??? [Re: baron_samedi]
    #12577586 - 05/17/10 06:28 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Looks fine to me, the mycellium is starting to get a little thick on it though. If your only fanning it for the last few hours at night that might be why it hasn't starting pinning yet. They need 3-5 fresh air exchanges PER HOUR to properly initiate pinning.

I know you said you cased it two weeks ago but how long has it been in fruiting conditions?


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Re: casing ??? *DELETED* [Re: StainBlue]
    #12578533 - 05/17/10 12:06 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: casing ??? [Re: baron_samedi]
    #12578571 - 05/17/10 12:12 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

you need a lot more fae. i don't know what you have that try in but if its i an tub you might leave the lid cracked slightly with a fan on in the room. just put a piece of wax paper over the tray to make sure the surface stays humid enough. your tub can then stay at 75-80% humidity thereby avoiding the drips lol.

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Re: casing ??? [Re: baron_samedi]
    #12578606 - 05/17/10 12:21 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Your casing fully colonized and is now a substrate and will not act as a casing anymore.

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Re: casing ??? [Re: baron_samedi]
    #12579384 - 05/17/10 02:24 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

That doesn't look like a casing. If it is a casing, then you let it colonize too much. It will still probably fruit though. Give it time.


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Re: casing ??? [Re: prismism]
    #12579609 - 05/17/10 02:59 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

bro i had the exact same problem, where the mycelium didn't want to pin. So i figured i'd cold shock it for a day. I brought the temp to the low 60's then brought it back to normal around 77. and the next day i had pins. and 4 days later i was plucking them up, and 2 weeks later today i'm still plucking them. they just keep growing. if you can't FAE it multiple times a day then i'd prop the lid open and add a lil fan in there. but the cold shock totally worked for me.

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Re: casing ??? [Re: mau5noize]
    #12579724 - 05/17/10 03:19 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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bro i had the exact same problem, where the mycelium didn't want to pin. So i figured i'd cold shock it for a day. I brought the temp to the low 60's then brought it back to normal around 77. and the next day i had pins. and 4 days later i was plucking them up, and 2 weeks later today i'm still plucking them. they just keep growing. if you can't FAE it multiple times a day then i'd prop the lid open and add a lil fan in there. but the cold shock totally worked for me.




Don't listen to this guy. Cold shocking cubensis does nothing except slow down fruiting. Him getting pins had nothing to do with lowering the temperature. Besides, the low 60's isn't even considered cold shocking.


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Re: casing ??? [Re: prismism]
    #12579827 - 05/17/10 03:34 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

You have water droplets on top and you said humidity is at 97 so you're golden there.  Just give it more FAE now.  You might have to try something different than hand fanning...maybe an oscillating fan in the room or something?  Any way to hook up a little desk fan close by when it's locked up?  Do you have polyfill or anything preventing FAE?  That is an ultra colonized casing, I highly doubt you'll get a contam now.


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Re: casing ??? [Re: Pfffffff]
    #12579878 - 05/17/10 03:41 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Casings are used to provide extra humidity as well hold some moisture for example rolling cakes with vermiculite.

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Re: casing ??? [Re: baron_samedi]
    #12579912 - 05/17/10 03:46 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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So i have this casing that looks really weird to me at first i thought it was overlay but i was reassured here that it was ok now i have put it in my chamber and it seems still in vegitative growth stages with no pins i just get more puffy mycelium growth i used to grow a while ago and had pretty good sucess but now i have to keep my project locked up to the day and fan and light at night... this is the Texas strain which i have never tried before does this look ok? is there anything i can do to make it better? i cased this two weeks ago





By casing, do you mean bulk sub?  I have a few friends who always call their bulk subs "casings."  I have "uncased" coir subs that look just like that:



I was taking picture of the metabolite you may see and not the parts that look the most similar to yours--the areas around the edges are exactly what you have going on.  Look back in the corner (sorry, didn't rotate it!).   

I would up the FAE and give it a little time.  I think the fan idea above would be ideal.


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Re: casing ??? *DELETED* [Re: Dharmatripper]
    #12581390 - 05/17/10 07:36 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: casing ??? [Re: baron_samedi]
    #12581400 - 05/17/10 07:39 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

When you say "casing" are you talking about bulk substrate or a bulk substrate that has colonized and has been cased?


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    #12581466 - 05/17/10 07:51 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: casing ??? [Re: baron_samedi]
    #12584466 - 05/18/10 09:05 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

you def need verm in there for retention of moisture. the moisture the coir has gets used up pretty quick for colonization. but in any case just keep the fae high along with your humidity and you should see at least a few fruits. patience is a virtue.

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Re: casing ??? *DELETED* [Re: drewb149]
    #12584769 - 05/18/10 10:18 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: casing ??? [Re: baron_samedi]
    #12584776 - 05/18/10 10:20 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

nice mycelium :thumbup: seems fine

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Re: casing ??? [Re: cc2]
    #12584978 - 05/18/10 11:04 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

the only commercial option other than verm for this application is those water retaining polymer crystals. though i would just order the verm offline. i was reading an article in skunk mag about how you can amend the soil with rice in place of verm for pot plants you could try mixing regular rice in when you go to pasteurize you sub. do a small batch to try it out. it might be worth a try.

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Re: casing ??? [Re: baron_samedi]
    #12585278 - 05/18/10 12:10 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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Colonized WBS that has been cased with just coco choir




You're getting the terms mixed up. People used to refer to coir as a casing. But nowadays, since we consider coir to be very nutritious, we consider it a bulk substrate. A casing layer would be something non-nutritive, like vermiculite and peat moss.
What you did was spawn your wbs to coir by way of layering. You don't necessarily need the vermiculite. Lots of people around here spawn their grain to straight coir with excellent results.


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    #12592110 - 05/19/10 01:12 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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