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I need some advice guys
    #12572809 - 05/16/10 12:25 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Hey, for some reason I may have double posted but its because I think I fucked up last time somehow lol
Anyway, I innocd these guys about 3 weeks ago, and its been a little cold. Now, some of hte jars have no signs of growth yet. Should I toss those? And, these look okay?





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Re: I need some advice guys [Re: Jolteon]
    #12572834 - 05/16/10 12:29 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Look fine to me, sometimes they just take awhile; but you should pick out the sunflower seeds in the future, their shells are impenetrable by mycelium.

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Re: I need some advice guys [Re: Jolteon]
    #12572843 - 05/16/10 12:29 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

The pictured jars look okay to me.

You may want to toss the jars that show no growth. That's up to you really. It may have been the low temps that prevented them from starting. Maybe they'll still perform and colonize if you keep them in adequate temps for a while.


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Re: I need some advice guys [Re: Phallus]
    #12572868 - 05/16/10 12:35 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Maaaan I knew thoes sunflower seeds were gonna be a problem. Next time Im usin popcorn for sure.  But thanks for the reassurance, I was worried I could be growing some nasty, tricky contam or somethin haha.


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Re: I need some advice guys [Re: Jolteon]
    #12572963 - 05/16/10 12:50 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

bah I used birdseed for a while and the sf seeds never gave me a problem. I'm pretty sure that if you are doing RR's grain tek with the boiling and steaming off that the sf shells are probibly weakened enough for them to get into.

However popcorn sucks (worse than birdseed), if you really want to use a good grain you should look for some bulk rye or something that you can get easily. I got some wheat from a local producer in a large quantity and it kicked ass, but I've also heard people complaining about wheat so it could have been breed specific.


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Re: I need some advice guys [Re: ScavengerType]
    #12572992 - 05/16/10 12:55 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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ScavengerType said:

However popcorn sucks (worse than birdseed), if you really want to use a good grain you should look for some bulk rye or something that you can get easily. I got some wheat from a local producer in a large quantity and it kicked ass, but I've also heard people complaining about wheat so it could have been breed specific.





RYE GRAIN FTW :thumbup:


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Re: I need some advice guys [Re: Jolteon]
    #12573074 - 05/16/10 01:13 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Alright, Ill defnitely look around. Its just, pocporn worked REALLY well in the past comparatively to the WBS Im currently using. But, this WBS has a LOT of sf seeds. Like more than any other wbs If seen. I also have a grow bag from TMS that I innocd a couple days ago. Waiting on that.

Im gonna spawn to bulk depending on how many of my jars actually colonize.  Rye is really the best? Hmm...I gotta look now.


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Re: I need some advice guys [Re: Jolteon]
    #12573162 - 05/16/10 01:33 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

sorry, removed due to security concerns


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Re: I need some advice guys [Re: Buddha420]
    #12573176 - 05/16/10 01:35 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

that's the second time i've seen that picture today.

:smile:


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Ah, that explains it.  Typical know-it-all noob.  We get a few thousand just like you register here every year.  They try a few grows, fail miserably and then after a few months or one bad trip, go back to sniffing glue, never to be seen again.

We have a basic pf tek that's idiot proof enough for noobs to get fucked up with their friends. 

Mycologists on the other hand grow for the love of growing.  They want to experiment with various species, substrates, and fruiting environments. They'll move on to isolate strains, attempt hybridization, and in general treat cultivation as an artform, rather than a chore that must be performed as a means to an end.  They'll work twice as hard for a ten percent gain, just for the love of perfection.  These are the ones who will isolate strains, not the dumb fucks who treat mushrooms as a drug, or even worse, a pathogen, as if mushrooms cause disease.
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Re: I need some advice guys [Re: TheBandit]
    #12573204 - 05/16/10 01:39 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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TheBandit said:
that's the second time i've seen that picture today.

:smile:




I'm proud of my achievement! I hope every cake come out like this, which they don't. But rye grain is still the way to go.


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Re: I need some advice guys [Re: Jolteon]
    #12573221 - 05/16/10 01:43 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Smell it? Foul? Sweet? Dont open the jars obviously, but give a sniff by your patch, plug, filter disk, whatever. If its contammed, you will know it by the smell.

Some WBS mixes have an anti-fungal coating, or a mold inhibitor, and this will not necessarily prohibit fungal growth, but it will slow it drastically. Your particular bird seed supplier may sell a mix in a bag with no additives, but it doesn't mean the sunflower seed weren't coated when sold to the wild bird seed distributor. Food for thought.

Rye is great when it doesn't contaminate, and sadly... it does a lot more than wheat or millet (from my own personal experience). I personally recommend millet seed instead of wild bird seed or any other grain. You can get millet in bulk for about 10 bucks a fifty pound bag.

Quick note on my prep of millet (which works great for WBS as well):

1. Soak overnight.
2. Rinse well.
3. Soak overnight again.
4. Rinse well.
5. Drain.
6. Add HOT water covering the seed by about 6 inches and steep for at least 3 hours, or until cool.
7. Drain.
8. fill a jar (pretty much any size jar) about 5/8 full.
9. Pressure cook for 1/12-2 hours, and the clock starts when the pressure cooker is hissing good.

Keep in mind that birdseed and grain still have contams in them, even after pressure cooking. The more shell on the grain or seed, the more possible contams.


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Re: I need some advice guys [Re: Buddha420]
    #12573224 - 05/16/10 01:44 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

have you tried isolating a strain?

:threadjack:


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[quote]RogerRabbit said:
Ah, that explains it.  Typical know-it-all noob.  We get a few thousand just like you register here every year.  They try a few grows, fail miserably and then after a few months or one bad trip, go back to sniffing glue, never to be seen again.

We have a basic pf tek that's idiot proof enough for noobs to get fucked up with their friends. 

Mycologists on the other hand grow for the love of growing.  They want to experiment with various species, substrates, and fruiting environments. They'll move on to isolate strains, attempt hybridization, and in general treat cultivation as an artform, rather than a chore that must be performed as a means to an end.  They'll work twice as hard for a ten percent gain, just for the love of perfection.  These are the ones who will isolate strains, not the dumb fucks who treat mushrooms as a drug, or even worse, a pathogen, as if mushrooms cause disease.
RR [/quote]

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Re: I need some advice guys [Re: TheBandit]
    #12573981 - 05/16/10 03:57 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I was just checking all of my jars out again, and a few of the jars that have significantly less sunflower seeds are excelling in colonizing compared to the rest. Also, I have one jar with some dark looking stuff on the WBS. I cant tell if its just darker cuz its wetter or not but I took it and hid it away from my other jars and what not.

Urban, I cant really tell anything by the smell, honestly, and I was just thinking to myself before I came back here that perhaps I should try to find a better kind of WBS. Or just millet, since that seems to be colonizing well right now.

Do you guys think theres any way to do a G2G, well jar to jar innoc on the next batch without a glovebox? Im running out of spores pretty quick xD Although, I dont want to be too sloppy about it Im juts low on funds and without a glovebox.


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Re: I need some advice guys [Re: Jolteon]
    #12575100 - 05/16/10 07:20 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

look up LCs and make a LC from your remaining spores. However, you should make a glovebox anyway and you may experience contamination if you don't use a glovebox to make an LC, same with doing jars though.


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Re: I need some advice guys [Re: ScavengerType]
    #12575436 - 05/16/10 08:25 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Kk danke


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