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IhatetheDEA
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Ultram
#1256058 - 01/28/03 02:23 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are Ultram safe. On Rxlist.com the first thing it says on the info thing, is that they have been known to cause seizures. When I looked up percocet it didn't say this. Maybe I am just parinod. I might take 3 tomorrow 50mgs...If there is anything I should be aware of let me know.
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Audi0
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ultram is a synthetic analog of codiene. its supposed to be non-abusive and non-addictive but i take like 5 of them and feel pretty damn good. no seizures either, yet.
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Ultram (Tramadol) is a selective mu(1?)-opiate-receptor agonist, as well as a norepinephrine and serotonin re-uptake inhibitor. It is these last two qualities, which are non-opioidergic, which can cause seizures. Ultram is strongly contraindicated if someone is already on SSRI therapy (i.e. Prozac, Paxil, et cetera).
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IhatetheDEA
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Cool. Well tomorrow I take 3. They are white right? and what shape are they?
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Audi0
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mine are yellow but they are ultracet, ultram + aceto BLAH
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Papaver
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3 x 50mg will probably be fine. Be careful taking too many though, as all that SRI and NRI crap can lead to seizures at high enough doses, and also make you feel like crap.
But like I said, 3 will probably give you a nice buzz. They are 50mg, right?
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IhatetheDEA
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yes 50 mg.
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shroomizzy
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if they're 50 dude take at least 4 or 5 man... 5 is niiiice for me
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BladeLSD
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but, he isnt you, and we wouldnt want to give him a seizure would we.
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monoamine
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There is no doubt in my mind that Ultram is addictive.My last Ultram withdrawal was worse than my last hydrocodone withdrawal.I had to take Ativan just to function when my six month supply of Ultram ran out. I had panic attacks from hell. In my experience,the buzz from Ultram sucks.I just got some sedation and some opiate like skin flushing,without any of the euphoria that a stronger opiate would have,no matter how high the dosage was. Not to mention,most people that I know says it makes them jittery. Keep that siezure stuff in mind.I've never had a seizure from Ultram,but in larger doses I've had muscle jerks and spasms that could have been some pre siezure activity. All in all,a fairly crappy med.They are good for moderate opiate withdrawal though.
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Papaver
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Yeah, Ultram is definitely addictive, and you're right, it is light on euphoria and heavy on the jitters...
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monoamine
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Re: Ultram [Re: Papaver]
#1257080 - 01/28/03 10:41 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Also,it can take long as fuck to start working,2 hours or more in some cases.Because the way it's metabolized to a another drug that works on mu opiate receptors,you'll likely to get the jitterness an hour or two before the opiate like effects kick in.
I'm still trying to decide which is shittier-darvocet or ultram.I hope I never see either one again.
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monoamine
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Re: Ultram [Re: Papaver]
#1257104 - 01/28/03 11:00 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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It is these last two qualities, which are non-opioidergic, which can cause seizures
It's probably the norepinephrine effects that cause the seizures,sometimes(rarely) other full on agonists and mixed agonists/antagonists can cause seizures though.I've heard that Talwin and Demerol (strong anticholinergic) can rarely cause seizures also.
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IhatetheDEA
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Well I took the three today. It was decent, I think darvocet is better. And they both suck. I think I will just stick with oxycodone and hydrocodone.
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Audi0
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just get some real skag
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