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FAO Stealth Growers
#12561478 - 05/14/10 11:51 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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and others who would like to give advice.
2 years back I decided to go about researching and planning a mushroom grow. I bought a B+ spore syringe(which is still bubble rapped in an air tight plastic cover). I also bought an aquarium heater and have a pressure cooker. I scrapped the idea after realizing that none of the places I thought would be secretive (i.e not coming to the attention of family members) as I live at home. And no, I'm not under 18.
Thing is, a few months back I got a new bunk bed and my bro moved out of my room. This new bed has enough space under it(height and width) to be used for a grow. This has made me reconsider giving the grow another shot. So I'm basically looking for advice and maybe some story's from people who have experience in something similar to my situation.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Connie]
#12561489 - 05/14/10 11:54 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you were worried before, why wouldn't you be now? What's in the pressure cooker, son? Why can't I get into your room to change your sheets?
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Connie]
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: jingus]
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tajmahal420 said: If you were worried before, why wouldn't you be now? What's in the pressure cooker, son? Why can't I get into your room to change your sheets?
I think the fact that I'm older, now have my own room and my parents don't snoop around my room. The changing the sheets problem could be easily solved. I could just start changing them myself. I already hoover and clean my room myself(I'm great, I know :P) so all of a sudden changing my sheets wouldn't be suspicious at all.
Both my parents work so I could use the pressure cooker at a time when they are at work at the same time. not much of a problem there.
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Thanks, I'll check it out now.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Connie]
#12561598 - 05/14/10 12:19 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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What I was getting at is this: Your grow will eventually be found out, unless you live in a mansion with your own wing.
If your family wouldn't approve, don't do it. A friend of mine was growing weed in his bedroom walk-in closet, his mother found out, despite the fact he kept his bedroom door locked. She called the cops, and he spent 6 months in the joint.
Either wait til you get your own place, or have a trustworthy friend (oxymoron) with his/her own place.
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Here's some advice for you: If your parents don't approve, don't grow psilocybin producing mushrooms in their house.  Shouldn't risk the safety of your parents because you thought you could keep it under wraps.
Any time mine visit me I tell them they're just edibles; it's not their house.
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tajmahal420 said: What I was getting at is this: Your grow will eventually be found out, unless you live in a mansion with your own wing.
If your family wouldn't approve, don't do it. A friend of mine was growing weed in his bedroom walk-in closet, his mother found out, despite the fact he kept his bedroom door locked. She called the cops, and he spent 6 months in the joint.
Either wait til you get your own place, or have a trustworthy friend (oxymoron) with his/her own place.
My family wouldn't approve but they also wouldn't rat me out the the police. I think it would just be a case of "get this shit out of the house"
Unfortunately I don't have a close friend who is living out of home where I could grow. I'm trying to think of somewhere that i could maybe use to set up a grow (an old shack with electricity etc) but drawing blank on that too.
Thanks for the reply, I'm still only in the thinking/planning stage obviously so still looking for new idea's, it's certainly not a definite yet.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: ThatCat]
#12561669 - 05/14/10 12:36 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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ThatCat said: Here's some advice for you: If your parents don't approve, don't grow psilocybin producing mushrooms in their house.  Shouldn't risk the safety of your parents because you thought you could keep it under wraps.
Any time mine visit me I tell them they're just edibles; it's not their house.
I don't see how it would be risking their safety but I understand the 'Our House, Our Rules' aspect. I have pondered the thought of telling them I'm going to start an edible mushroom grow but not 100% sure they would believe that.
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Grow sclerotia from Atl#7.... It's Super easy to hide... and it's not the mushrooms you are after, so no one would expect it to be mushrooms in the least.... and if you wanted to Fruit For some mushrooms you can... it's super easy.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Connie]
#12561697 - 05/14/10 12:42 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Connie said:
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ThatCat said: Here's some advice for you: If your parents don't approve, don't grow psilocybin producing mushrooms in their house.  Shouldn't risk the safety of your parents because you thought you could keep it under wraps.
Any time mine visit me I tell them they're just edibles; it's not their house.
I don't see how it would be risking their safety but I understand the 'Our House, Our Rules' aspect. I have pondered the thought of telling them I'm going to start an edible mushroom grow but not 100% sure they would believe that.
Because you're cultivating an illegal mushroom in their house. Cops can be real pricks, I don't care where you live. They can levy charges against your parents, as well as you. Doesn't mean they'll get convicted, but I'm sure they could do without the headache.
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enderthethird said: Grow sclerotia from Atl#7.... It's Super easy to hide... and it's not the mushrooms you are after, so no one would expect it to be mushrooms in the least.... and if you wanted to Fruit For some mushrooms you can... it's super easy.
I'll do some research on it, thank you.
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tajmahal420 said: Because you're cultivating an illegal mushroom in their house. Cops can be real pricks, I don't care where you live. They can levy charges against your parents, as well as you. Doesn't mean they'll get convicted, but I'm sure they could do without the headache.
I don't plan on letting anyone know of the grow so the police shouldn't be a problem really. Unless my parent's call them which I honestly can't see them doing.
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Can? 9/10 times they are pricks. Never had good experiences with them.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Connie]
#12561887 - 05/14/10 01:24 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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You asked for advice and you got the best for your situation. I think you have already made up your mind. I will second the sclerotia grow. It doesn't get any stealthier than that. Except you will need a pressure cooker and 2 hours with the house to yourself to do it right. If you try to be stealthy with cakes or bulk, you will end up taking shortcuts that will lead to failure or worse. The real stealth comes from being able to resist telling your friends that you are growing. Like it or not, I'll bet most trouble comes from disregarding the #1 rule: Tell Nobody! All it takes is someone knows someone, etc. Then the cops are at your door asking questions. How awkward is that for your parents?
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earth dweller said: You asked for advice and you got the best for your situation. I think you have already made up your mind. I will second the sclerotia grow. It doesn't get any stealthier than that. Except you will need a pressure cooker and 2 hours with the house to yourself to do it right. If you try to be stealthy with cakes or bulk, you will end up taking shortcuts that will lead to failure or worse. The real stealth comes from being able to resist telling your friends that you are growing. Like it or not, I'll bet most trouble comes from disregarding the #1 rule: Tell Nobody! All it takes is someone knows someone, etc. Then the cops are at your door asking questions. How awkward is that for your parents?
I'm currently looking into the suggested sclorotia grow. I haven't made up my mind as I'm now contemplating on asking them(parents) for permission to grow or scrap the idea completely.
If I like and feel confident about the sclorotia grow then I might keep my mouth shut and grow that way.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Connie]
#12561989 - 05/14/10 01:41 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Step 1.) Get a container, and punch a bunch of holes in the container for fae. Step 2.) Get a lock. Step 3.) Put the container in a closet or non sketchy spot, like under you bunk bed, put all of your equipment in the container, and lock it. Step 4.) Grow.
Although, if your parents are ok with you growing, that might not be necessary. If you think they will be ok, try asking, who knows.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Connie]
#12562007 - 05/14/10 01:44 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm using a tub in tub setup right now, just made it, kind of ghetto rigged at the moment. Basically it's a very large opaque tupperware bin with perlite at the bottom and an air pump running to it set to a timer for fresh air. Inside the large bin, on top of the perlite, is a smaller transparent bin with perlite at the bottom and 1/4 inch holes every two inches. Also inside the large bin, sitting next to the smaller bin, is a travel size walgreens cool mist humidifier with the power cord running from the large bin out to the same timer as the air pump. Also inside the large bin I have a rope light with 6500k color temperature LEDs spaced every two inches, running along the two long sides of the bin.
Well, that's not 100% what I'm using, but that's the plan. I have all the pieces and they are working properly, it just need polish. I quickly threw it all together because of an emergency involving our cakes and other FC, but I plan to finish all of it and make it look nice and pretty before I take some pictures. It's pretty quiet, especially since I always have music on, can't even hear it.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: libertaire]
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libertaire said: Step 1.) Get a container, and punch a bunch of holes in the container for fae. Step 2.) Get a lock. Step 3.) Put the container in a closet or non sketchy spot, like under you bunk bed, put all of your equipment in the container, and lock it. Step 4.) Grow.
Although, if your parents are ok with you growing, that might not be necessary. If you think they will be ok, try asking, who knows.
Would this be considered a poor way of growing? like a grow that produce little to nothing? Cause if it's not that's what I'll end up doing more or less.
Thanks.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Connie]
#12562290 - 05/14/10 02:38 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Most people would say that you need more fae, but I know that it will work find. Also, if you've never heard of the chronic tek, or the invitro tek, it's a good way to fruit cakes with limited space, you should check those out as well.
Invitro: http://archives.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/18376.html?1039265527

Chronic: http://archives.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/7618.html?1012857760

Some stuff on stealth growing:
http://archives.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/90370.html?1107364405 http://forums.mycotopia.net/stealth-growing/
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: libertaire]
#12562611 - 05/14/10 03:28 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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You want some real true down to earth advice?
Even though you are 18 or older (or so you say...hmmm) it would be wrong to not get permission from your parents.
If for any reason something goes wrong it's their responsibility and they take the fall....not cool in my book bro.
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Mad Hatter 2010 said: You want some real true down to earth advice?
Even though you are 18 or older (or so you say...hmmm) it would be wrong to not get permission from your parents.
If for any reason something goes wrong it's their responsibility and they take the fall....not cool in my book bro.
True as true can be, if you're growing in someone's house you should get permission, or stop, or move.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Connie]
#12562692 - 05/14/10 03:44 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dont grow these in your parents house, grow them outside IMO. Maybe you could get some gourmets going for inside. Also they wouldn't question wtf your doing with thier PC later, and if they do you can tell em.
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Mad Hatter 2010 said: You want some real true down to earth advice?
Even though you are 18 or older (or so you say...hmmm) it would be wrong to not get permission from your parents.
If for any reason something goes wrong it's their responsibility and they take the fall....not cool in my book bro.
I'm thinking about asking them, will need to prepare for that too if I decide to do it. I take it you have never brought any illegal items into your house while living with your parents? And I'm 20 years old, turning 21 in a few months, that's the last bit of personal info I'm posting on here tho!
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Connie]
#12562807 - 05/14/10 04:01 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Connie said: I'm thinking about asking them, will need to prepare for that too if I decide to do it. I take it you have never brought any illegal items into your house while living with your parents? And I'm 20 years old, turning 21 in a few months, that's the last bit of personal info I'm posting on here tho!
That would be the only respectful option here. Though, you seem kinda stubborn, so if they say no, are you going to respect their wishes?
Your parents might surprise you, though. Mine are a little bit older and more relaxed now (I live in a whole other country ) and when I talked to them about mushrooms and tripping they were just interested, more than anything. They didn't ask to try, mind you.
Tripping with your parents would just be all wrong.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: andymc]
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Connie said: I'm thinking about asking them, will need to prepare for that too if I decide to do it. I take it you have never brought any illegal items into your house while living with your parents? And I'm 20 years old, turning 21 in a few months, that's the last bit of personal info I'm posting on here tho!
That would be the only respectful option here. Though, you seem kinda stubborn, so if they say no, are you going to respect their wishes?
Your parents might surprise you, though. Mine are a little bit older and more relaxed now (I live in a whole other country ) and when I talked to them about mushrooms and tripping they were just interested, more than anything. They didn't ask to try, mind you.
Tripping with your parents would just be all wrong.
If I do ask and they say no then I won't/can't. There's no point in even trying, cause they'll start checking my room regularly from now till I move out
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Connie]
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I take it you have never brought any illegal items into your house while living with your parents? And I'm 20 years old, turning 21 in a few months, that's the last bit of personal info I'm posting on here tho!
Actually,that was the beauty of my under age years.I was allowed to smoke pot,and GROW IT!
My parents felt it was safer for me to smoke pot in the comfort and safety of my own home rather then risk getting busted trying to kkeep it a secret and smoking outside or some other dumb place in public.And they felt it was safer for me to grow my own rather then risk getting busted trying to buy a bag...that and I knew what was going into the pot...all organic nutrients,no chemical nutrients or additives,everything from nature!
Seeing as you are an adult now,you should be a man and know that doing this in your parents home without their permission is just plain dirty and wrong.And yes it is true,seeing as it is their home,if for any reason something were to happen it is their asses,not yours!
And by the way,I know that the economical times are rough,but there is no reason you can't get off your ass,get a job,and get your own place....unless of course you're one of those druggie types that keeps fucking up in life...if that's the case,move on,drugs aren't for you.
And judging by your most recent post (the one directly above this one...you aren't going to ask because like a little kid you are scared and if they won't allow you then you can't do it.....GROW UP!
And most importantly,be a man and take responsibility.
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if ur 20 and still live with your parents, i think there are better things to do with your money then growing a big secret.
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I take it you have never brought any illegal items into your house while living with your parents? And I'm 20 years old, turning 21 in a few months, that's the last bit of personal info I'm posting on here tho!
Actually,that was the beauty of my under age years.I was allowed to smoke pot,and GROW IT!
My parents felt it was safer for me to smoke pot in the comfort and safety of my own home rather then risk getting busted trying to kkeep it a secret and smoking outside or some other dumb place in public.And they felt it was safer for me to grow my own rather then risk getting busted trying to buy a bag...that and I knew what was going into the pot...all organic nutrients,no chemical nutrients or additives,everything from nature!
Seeing as you are an adult now,you should be a man and know that doing this in your parents home without their permission is just plain dirty and wrong.And yes it is true,seeing as it is their home,if for any reason something were to happen it is their asses,not yours!
And by the way,I know that the economical times are rough,but there is no reason you can't get off your ass,get a job,and get your own place....unless of course you're one of those druggie types that keeps fucking up in life...if that's the case,move on,drugs aren't for you.
And judging by your most recent post (the one directly above this one...you aren't going to ask because like a little kid you are scared and if they won't allow you then you can't do it.....GROW UP!
And most importantly,be a man and take responsibility.
Lucky for you, you have understanding and open minded parents :P
I'm not "scared" of them saying no and me not being able to grow, that's not something that would scare or put fear into me (in fact I don't think it would to anyone 0_o ) it's that I'll have to wait years till I can. And that's naturally gonna piss me off a bit. But it will be the least of my worries and I'll just stick to buying them.
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Giggle_Grower said: if ur 20 and still live with your parents, i think there are better things to do with your money then growing a big secret.
There will always be better things to spend your money on besides drugs...
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Connie]
#12562981 - 05/14/10 04:32 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why will it take you YEARS, to get out of your parents house.
Like I said before,there is no damn reason you can't get off your ass and get a job and get your own place.
This brings another question to mind....
Since you are over 18 and living with your parents,do you pay them rent and pay part of the ALL the utilities?
If not then that is fucked up man,if so then good for you,that's acting like a man!
Just get a job if you don't have one,and if you do have one get a second job.Use the money from your first jobs pay check to pay your parents some rent money and cover a bit of all the utilities.Then take whatever money is left over from your first jobs pay check and deposit it in a savings account with your second jobs pay check....you'll be out of your parents in as little as 4-6 months.
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Mad Hatter 2010 said: Why will it take you YEARS, to get out of your parents house.
Like I said before,there is no damn reason you can't get off your ass and get a job and get your own place.
This brings another question to mind....
Since you are over 18 and living with your parents,do you pay them rent and pay part of the ALL the utilities?
If not then that is fucked up man,if so then good for you,that's acting like a man!
Just get a job if you don't have one,and if you do have one get a second job.Use the money from your first jobs pay check to pay your parents some rent money and cover a bit of all the utilities.Then take whatever money is left over from your first jobs pay check and deposit it in a savings account with your second jobs pay check....you'll be out of your parents in as little as 4-6 months.
I'm not sure what planet you guys live on or more than likely it's cheap to move out of home where ye live cause here it's quite hard to get a job and even if you do, you'd struggle and certainly wouldn't be able to afford to spend money on mushroom growing equipment. I know one person off the top of my head that's my age and is living out of home (and he was kicked out of home) besides people living in cheap college accommodation which ain't the same really as they go home at the weekends and are not fully financially independent from their parents.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Connie]
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I live on my own, My parents live on one side of the USA and I live on the other. I'm in college, I pay for my rent and I grow mushrooms. and I still have plenty of money and time to do everything else I enjoy in life. I just turned 21.
So, proof and can be done if you are just driven enough and not lazy. But the sad truth is, Drug abusers have a tendancy to be lazy and live at the expense of other people.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Connie]
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Mad Hatter 2010 said: Why will it take you YEARS, to get out of your parents house.
Like I said before,there is no damn reason you can't get off your ass and get a job and get your own place.
This brings another question to mind....
Since you are over 18 and living with your parents,do you pay them rent and pay part of the ALL the utilities?
If not then that is fucked up man,if so then good for you,that's acting like a man!
Just get a job if you don't have one,and if you do have one get a second job.Use the money from your first jobs pay check to pay your parents some rent money and cover a bit of all the utilities.Then take whatever money is left over from your first jobs pay check and deposit it in a savings account with your second jobs pay check....you'll be out of your parents in as little as 4-6 months.
I'm not sure what planet you guys live on or more than likely it's cheap to move out of home where ye live cause here it's quite hard to get a job and even if you do, you'd struggle and certainly wouldn't be able to afford to spend money on mushroom growing equipment. I know one person off the top of my head that's my age and is living out of home (and he was kicked out of home) besides people living in cheap college accommodation which ain't the same really as they go home at the weekends and are not fully financially independent from their parents.
I'm with you on this one man, 23 and still trying to get on my own two feet. It may be easy as pie for some, but for others, especially those who are in college and don't have time to get a full time job, it's not an easy thing to accomplish.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: libertaire]
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I'm not saying that it's easy, But it can be done.
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Well depending on your course load, I think its easier to find a job while your in college, because they usually offer work study. I dont think its that big of deal staying with your parents while your college, as long as your not burdening their finances. But yeah, the economy sucks right now, I think around 10% unemployement.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: teknix]
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actually... its worse than that.. for young adults between 18 and 24, Of all of those that apply and look for work, Only around 30-40% are actually getting work.
So yeah, economic situation can def play a role in how successful one is in terms of making a decent living on their own. most students in college or even just young adults in general do have to live off the support of their parents for a time to get up on their feet.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Connie]
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Giggle_Grower said: if ur 20 and still live with your parents, i think there are better things to do with your money then growing a big secret.
There will always be better things to spend your money on besides drugs...
not everyone here grows drugs as you put it. some grow edibles and some grow just for the fun of this hobby.
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Giggle_Grower said: if ur 20 and still live with your parents, i think there are better things to do with your money then growing a big secret.
There will always be better things to spend your money on besides drugs...
not everyone here grows drugs as you put it. some grow edibles and some grow just for the fun of this hobby.
I'm talking about drugs in general, not necessarily growing. Weed/alcohol etc.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Connie]
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As said before, if your growing in your parents house get their permission or at least just don't fruit indoors, spawn to an outdoor bed. In a discrete area and not so neatly, if its natural looking it raises less flags.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Khaos]
#12563303 - 05/14/10 05:29 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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true that, I live in A Zone Where Azures Grow amazingly well, and I'll be starting 2 or three Bulk outdoor grows on the back of my property. I'll also be starting an Edible Grow for my mother who is fighting cancer. so I'm going to put in an order for miatake Mushrooms and grow them bulk. The docter has already given me the Go ahead.. etc.
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Other then California,I live in one of the WORST states to live in right now...the only info towards my local that I am willing to say about my location is this...
It looks like a big flacid penis...
You really think living where I am is cheap...LMFAO!!!
Once you figure in rent/utilities/groceries/debts etc. it is no where near cheap to live where I am.
I can't even afford to drive,let alone own or lease a car...I ride a bike everywhere,or take public transportation.There are times I can't even put food on the table....but I make it happen.
Like I said before dude...GROW THE FUCK UP AND TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR ACTIONS!
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Mad Hatter 2010 said: Other then California,I live in one of the WORST states to live in right now...the only info towards my local that I am willing to say about my location is this...
It looks like a big flacid penis...
You really think living where I am is cheap...LMFAO!!!
Once you figure in rent/utilities/groceries/debts etc. it is no where near cheap to live where I am.
I can't even afford to drive,let alone own or lease a car...I ride a bike everywhere,or take public transportation.There are times I can't even put food on the table....but I make it happen.
Like I said before dude...GROW THE FUCK UP AND TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR ACTIONS!
/thread.
Grow up for not living out of home? I doubt you get along with most young people....
And where have I not taken responsibility for my actions? I haven't done anything....
I also have other reasons why it would not be wise to move out of home at the moment but like i said I'm not giving away any other personal info for obvious reasons.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Connie]
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I doubt you get along with most young people....
And where have I not taken responsibility for my actions? I haven't done anything....
I also have other reasons why it would not be wise to move out of home at the moment but like i said I'm not giving away any other personal info for obvious reasons.
Dude I am not that much older then...I'm 28...dude I have had to move back into my rents house before when I was younger (mostly due to me fucking up) but I got in there,did what I had to do and got the fuck back out.
I don't care to hear your reasons for being there or your reasons for not moving out...be a man and take care of your situation.
Are you a felonand no one will rent to you or hire you,is that why you're living with mommy and daddy?
If that's the case then why risk copping another charge,having your parents home seized from them,and all the belongings inside said home?!
Let me put it this way bro...
NUT UP OR SHUT UP!
And please,don't take this too personal...I'm just trying to help you out here man,really.You may not realize it now,but one day you will.
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Mad Hatter 2010 said: Other then California,I live in one of the WORST states to live in right now...the only info towards my local that I am willing to say about my location is this...
It looks like a big flacid penis...
You really think living where I am is cheap...LMFAO!!!
Once you figure in rent/utilities/groceries/debts etc. it is no where near cheap to live where I am.
I can't even afford to drive,let alone own or lease a car...I ride a bike everywhere,or take public transportation.There are times I can't even put food on the table....but I make it happen.
Like I said before dude...GROW THE FUCK UP AND TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR ACTIONS!
/thread.
. Seriously. STFU. You take public transportation? guess what? there's NO fucking public transportation where I live. You didn't even stop to think about that hmmm? How the fuck am -I- supposed to "ride a bike" anywhere when, even though I live in a city, the closest place to ride to is about 10 miles away. Most jobs around here are within a HUNDRED MILE RADIUS. How can I expect him to be able to when I can't? If you can ride you damned bike to work, go the fuck ahead. Quit pretending that your the almighty god who knows everything about jobs and the city/conditions that everyone lives in. I can't stand arrogant assholes like yourself.
Sorry, but money is tight right now and you have hit a nerve.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go find a job in this damned awful economy [/rant]
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Tis strange, shrooms used to be legal in Ireland not too long ago.. Ya I'm easily getting away with preaching to parents it's edibles. (although in fairness, I have done a fair few bulk straw oysters so I guess it's a legit 'excuse'). I'm also into brewing, pyro etc. so another hands-on hobby is more than plausable.
Mad Hatter, enough of the life lecture already! You dont know shit about his life.
I agree though, if it doesn't fit right (As stated, such a hobby is continuous with my particular interests) then I wouldn't be so sure about indoors, and 'guerilla growing' would prob be best suited. However I would consider sclerotia if you just can't let go.
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Mad Hatter 2010 said: Other then California,I live in one of the WORST states to live in right now...the only info towards my local that I am willing to say about my location is this...
It looks like a big flacid penis...
You really think living where I am is cheap...LMFAO!!!
Once you figure in rent/utilities/groceries/debts etc. it is no where near cheap to live where I am.
I can't even afford to drive,let alone own or lease a car...I ride a bike everywhere,or take public transportation.There are times I can't even put food on the table....but I make it happen.
Like I said before dude...GROW THE FUCK UP AND TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR ACTIONS!
/thread.
. Seriously. STFU. You take public transportation? guess what? there's NO fucking public transportation where I live. You didn't even stop to think about that hmmm? How the fuck am -I- supposed to "ride a bike" anywhere when, even though I live in a city, the closest place to ride to is about 10 miles away. Most jobs around here are within a HUNDRED MILE RADIUS. How can I expect him to be able to when I can't? If you can ride you damned bike to work, go the fuck ahead. Quit pretending that your the almighty god who knows everything about jobs and the city/conditions that everyone lives in. I can't stand arrogant assholes like yourself.
Sorry, but money is tight right now and you have hit a nerve.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go find a job in this damned awful economy [/rant]
Whatever dude...oh woe is me the nearest place to ride to is 10 miles away wah wah....stop being so fucking lazy dude,10 miles ain't shit and that's for real.
Arrogant asshole...the only arrogant assholes I am seeing is you and this turd wanting to do illegal activities in a home not owned by him but his parents,while he himself is an adult and should know better!
And when the hell did I start pretending I am the almighty god who knows everything about jobs and city conditions where everyone lives...did you see any text from me that says that...no you don't!
Did I say that everyone has public transportation in their city...no I did not...did I say that everything is close by...no I did not...so take your meds and get your head out of your ass.
And yes,I can and do ride my bike to work every day I have work...all the 56 miles of it big boy!
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Nme]
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Nme said: Tis strange, shrooms used to be legal in Ireland not too long ago.. Ya I'm easily getting away with preaching to parents it's edibles. (although in fairness, I have done a fair few bulk straw oysters so I guess it's a legit 'excuse'). I'm also into brewing, pyro etc. so another hands-on hobby is more than plausable.
Mad Hatter, enough of the life lecture already! You dont know shit about his life.
I agree though, if it doesn't fit right (As stated, such a hobby is continuous with my particular interests) then I wouldn't be so sure about indoors, and 'guerilla growing' would prob be best suited. However I would consider sclerotia if you just can't let go.
2006 for fuck sake haha.
And yea, Mad Hatter is making me out to be this type of spoiled brat that's gonna grow the mushrooms and not give a shit about my family's safety which couldn't be further from the truth. I'm just questioning all my options. I'm looking into Sclerotia and guerilla growing at the moment but don't think the climate here might be the best for it.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Nme]
#12563588 - 05/14/10 06:20 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mad Hatter, enough of the life lecture already! You dont know shit about his life.
I agree though, if it doesn't fit right (As stated, such a hobby is continuous with my particular interests) then I wouldn't be so sure about indoors, and 'guerilla growing' would prob be best suited. However I would consider sclerotia if you just can't let go.
It's not a life lecture...I am trying to help this guy out yet you all seem to fail to see that!
I can not condone a grow in a persons parents house (unless they know about it and agree to it),nor can I condone an underage person to grow or do drugs (hypocritical but true non the less).
All I am trying to point out is that he keeps making excuses for himself instead of getting up and doing something about it.
What things would keep a person from being able to move out of their parents house?
Being 100% mentally retarded (which we know he's not)
Extraordinary debts (but even then things can be done)
Being a sexual predator and not being able to get someone to rent to them.
I have logical reasoning in my thoughts....there should be nothing holding this guy back from making some money and getting out of his parents house,and then starting a grow....in that order.
Those of you that agree with him and his reasoning are either underage kids yourselves or lazy bastards that never take responsibility for themselves and their actions,and don't have morals...nor know the difference between right and wrong.
So bitch at me all you want...cry me a river,build your bridges and get the flip over it....that's life!
And Connie...I am not trying to make you out to be anything....you're doing that just fine on your own.
I am giving you options,trying to help you....but you are too young,ignorant,and blind to even notice it.
And I never said my life was easy...far far from it to be honest...but I get up and do what needs to be done and take care of my problems rather then just putting off to the side.
I am done with this thread....carry on.
Edited by Mad Hatter 2010 (05/14/10 06:22 PM)
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Nme]
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Nme said: Mad Hatter, enough of the life lecture already! You dont know shit about his life.
^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This. Your assuming that since it works for you, it must work everywhere. That is flawed logic if I've ever seen it. Ergo, you are assuming that you know everything about all work conditions everywhere. That is why I compared you to 'the omniscient economy god.'
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Last post...
You're right...I don't know shit about his life other then what he has let come across the board....no matter what,he has options and choices.Will he choose the right path to enlightment or walk down the lonely dark path?
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And Connie...I am not trying to make you out to be anything....you're doing that just fine on your own.
I am giving you options,trying to help you....but you are too young,ignorant,and blind to even notice it.
I am done with this thread....carry on.
I think it's best you are done with it, you sound like a real prick to me!
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You're right...I don't know shit about his life other then what he has let come across the board....no matter what,he has options and choices.Will he choose the right path to enlightment or walk down the lonely dark path?
I don't know, He doesn't know. No one knows. In the end, It is totally up to the individual to decide. Nothing anyone says can change someone else's path unless that person lets them.
Oh! and honestly I understand what you are trying to do, I just think you went about it entirely the wrong way.
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Re: FAO Stealth Growers [Re: Connie]
#12563677 - 05/14/10 06:36 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Connie said: I'm looking into Sclerotia and guerilla growing at the moment but don't think the climate here might be the best for it.
Sclerotia can be grown inside with little or no problem. And I have no doubt That it would be discrete. It's easy to hide.. and really it doesnt look like mushrooms at all... if worse came to worse... you can say you accidentally left a bunch of food (oatmeal or grain cereal) under your bed and forgot about it.
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