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ModularMind
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Origamycology
#12552632 - 05/12/10 11:25 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have been a fan of mushrooms for a long time. I've heard people talk of geometric shapes and patterns a ton in reference to psychs. I've can't say that I've personally had great kaleidoscopic visions from psilocybin.
Two years ago, for whatever reason, I made an impulse buy of an origami of the day calendar at Walmart. I've since gone apeshit over it and fallen out of it to some extent. It's something I'm glad I found and has given me a far greater respect for geometry in general. It's piqued other interests along the same lines and I've more recently started feeling like mushrooms led me to origami.
More to the point. I got to thinking the other day, after reading some of spongiform's giant cake trials, that a small, modular, geometric, origami model could be used as a containment vessel for a substrate.
I figured it could be contained in a heat safe plastic container with filters and an injection port.(or a bag)
The idea being that the myc would colonize the sub ?and the paper? and once consolidated take on whatever shape the model was to begin with.
any shape would be cool but I was thinking along the lines of an LSD
Lesser Stellated Dodecahedron

I was thinking all black paper(don't know how dyes may affect colonization) or brown bag paper to easily notice contrast.
I promise I'm not just trying to stick my origami in Mush Cult. I think it could work and would look incredible throughout development.
If folks can think of obvious shortcomings in my thinking or offer up ways to make it work, I am all ears.
Edit: Or has it been done? I certainly should learn to use the search function.
Edited by ModularMind (05/12/10 11:27 PM)
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bare.whiterabbit
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Fuckin' eh I say go for it. Most people don't believe in such things as acoustic biology or the effects of the psych-atomospheres of this planet, but I know for fact that certain differentiations in the surreal patterns of life, can make a huge difference in it's influence on biological environments and it's life-forms.
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iamu
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bare.whiterabbit said: Fuckin' eh I say go for it. Most people don't believe in such things as acoustic biology or the effects of the psych-atomospheres of this planet, but I know for fact that certain differentiations in the surreal patterns of life, can make a huge difference in it's influence on biological environments and it's life-forms.
yeah.
do it!
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ModularMind
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I've thought of a number of concerns. The first being that the steam moisture would weaken the paper causing it to collapse.(really only one way to find out)
Another thought being that the paper would wick away moisture from the substrate or that one would need more water than an average brf tek calls for originally since there is more dry area to colonize.(not sure at all if that makes sense)
There are plenty more concerns but those are the ones I've thought most important at this point.
EDIT: Can steam alone sterilize paper?
Edited by ModularMind (05/12/10 11:52 PM)
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ModularMind
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Bump for other folks input.
Also thought that crumbling a cake into it may work.
Anybody?
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iamu
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maybe search for a different material that you can shape. something a little more durable. construction paper?
what about making the shape and then layering paper mache over it?
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Shea25
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Re: Origamycology [Re: iamu]
#12574781 - 05/16/10 06:15 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Card stock is very durable paper
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ModularMind
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Re: Origamycology [Re: iamu]
#12574794 - 05/16/10 06:17 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not sure the flash point of different types of paper but I figured the finished model could be baked for some period of time and a colonized crumbled cake inside could get to the paper before anything else.
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ModularMind
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Re: Origamycology [Re: Shea25]
#12574797 - 05/16/10 06:18 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shea25 said: Card stock is very durable paper
Very true
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ModularMind
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This is what I found in searching for "Origami and Mycology"
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Shroomery: the etymology of the term is actually an English misinterpretation of the Tagalog phrase : maganda shrom iyo. Which of course literally means "you beautiful excessive paper folder."
While liberating the Phillipine islands from the Japanese occupation, American soldiers confused the native's two favorite hobbies: origami and mycology.
Thus, shrom iyo became shroomery to the soldiers, and they referenced it to the average Filipinos consumption of p. cubensis.
thank you wiki!
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conoshoto
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You could make something that doesn't have to be that heat resistant if you make the shape and fill it with colonized spawn and some bulk sub. Wait for it to all colonize then take it out and fruit. I think it would be a lot easier than trying to sterilize it all in some type of paper shell. 
But that is a nice idea, I would definitely give it a try.
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Doc_T
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Start with a tetrahedron, dude.
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ModularMind
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Re: Origamycology [Re: Doc_T]
#12575360 - 05/16/10 08:11 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pyramid power!!!!
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Doc_T
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Doc_T said: Start with a tetrahedron, dude.
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ModularMind said: Pyramid power!!!!
Polyhedron fail. But a perfectly fine shape.
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Re: Origamycology [Re: Doc_T]
#12575412 - 05/16/10 08:21 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah id like to see a pyramid too. I might even try one
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ModularMind
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Re: Origamycology [Re: Doc_T]
#12575418 - 05/16/10 08:22 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I know the difference.
The Medial Rhombic Triacontahedron will not work with all the holes.
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Doc_T
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I never built any of the open ones. Dodecahedron might be a good choice, just brainstorming. And you really need something besides paper for a shell. Or rice paper?
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ModularMind
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Re: Origamycology [Re: Doc_T]
#12575454 - 05/16/10 08:28 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you think brown packaging paper would work, or are you saying it should be thinner to allow for colonization?
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mukhail
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Re: Origamycology [Re: Doc_T]
#12575461 - 05/16/10 08:29 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cut up plexiglass or something and make shaped containers and glue them, and have it open like a pokeball or something. Youd be able to see it colonize, too. I think I may try that.
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Doc_T
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I dunno, I think you'll have to try different things and see. For some shapes you could use foil, and then peel it off the colonized truncated rhombocuboctohedron. Or whatever. But others... I don't know. Wire mesh, possibly?
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