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[CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles
    #12552142 - 05/12/10 09:51 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles
May 12, 2010 - arcataeye.com

Arcata Police press release, with updates:

The use of the drug LSD, or commonly referred to as “acid,” appears to be increasing especially among young adults in Arcata.

On April 18, officers responded to a residence to assist the Arcata Mad River Ambulance with a 31-year-old male subject who had just castrated himself. Medical personnel and officers were unable to locate the subject’s testicles. He later told officers that he flushed them down the toilet as he feared they contained “monsters.”

The victim, who police say had a Tennessee address, was with several friends when he began to experience negative feelings. He was dropped off at the Jay Street residence, to which Arcata Police responded at 4:18 p.m. that day.

“We just thought it was an isolated incident,” said Police Chief Tom Chapman. He said calls to aid people having a bad experience with LSD or psilocybin mushrooms are “not uncommon.” But a flurry of subsequent incidents represent an unusual surge in LSD-related calls for service.

On May 8, a 21-year-old male subject took LSD and wandered away from his residence. He left his shoes, adequate clothing, and cell phone behind and did not tell anyone where he was going. He wandered around the forest for days while concerned friends and family looked for him. He eventually returned a couple days later.

On May 9, officers responded to the Mad River Hospital to assist with a combative 19-year-old male subject who was undergoing “flashbacks.” The subject had ingested LSD two weeks ago. Today, officers found him standing in the field being held by three friends who were attempting to get him into the emergency room. The friends were requesting police assistance and wanted their friend to get help. The officers detained the subject and held him for psychiatric evaluation by Humboldt County Mental Health.

Last night, officers responded to the 900 block of H Street where an 18-year-old male subject, who was under the influence of LSD, was throwing himself on the ground in the middle of the street. He was arrested and taken to jail.

Also last night, May 11,officers from APD assisted officers from UPD arrest a subject who was under the influence of LSD.

Officers from the Arcata Police Department also had two additional contacts with unrelated subjects undergoing “flashbacks.” Both were cared for by friends and family. One subject was taken out of the area and back home by his family.

The Arcata Police Department would like to remind you that the effects of LSD are extremely unpredictable. Many LSD users experience flashbacks long after initially using the drug. It is difficult to determine how long the effects of the LSD will last. The physical effects include dilated pupils, higher body temperature, increased heart rate and blood pressure, sweating, loss of appetite, sleeplessness, dry mouth, and tremors.

Some LSD users experience severe, terrifying thoughts and feelings, fear of losing control, fear of insanity and death, and despair while using LSD. Some fatal accidents have occurred during states of LSD intoxication.

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: veggie]
    #12552158 - 05/12/10 09:54 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Sounds like a shitty batch! haha


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: veggie]
    #12552175 - 05/12/10 09:56 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

I just don't get it.

I've never done anything near as retarded as that on LSD.

Why are these people giving it a bad name? Don't they understand?


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: halo]
    #12552190 - 05/12/10 09:58 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

^im more than a little skeptical too...it sure sounds like horseshit to me...

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: halo]
    #12552205 - 05/12/10 10:00 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Lol, What the hell, sounds like all these people have undiagnosed mental issues..


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: xthrx]
    #12552258 - 05/12/10 10:10 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Something is going on but it's not LSD's fault.

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: Arkady]
    #12552292 - 05/12/10 10:17 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Set and setting people!! Come on!

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: xthrx] * 1
    #12552330 - 05/12/10 10:23 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Psychedelics aren't harmless drugs. You all know how it goes... a bad feeling or mindset can quickly amplify to a terrifying degree. Ignorance on responsible and safe psychedelic usage also plays a role (and even while we have the government to thank for much misinformation regarding psychedelics, it's becoming less and less excusable to not know what you're doing with sites like Erowid around.)

For the most part, it sounds like these unfortunate occurrences could have been prevented by taking appropriate measures to be safe - having a (sober) trip-sitter/guide, staying in a safe and reassuring environment, etc. But there's also people out there who just shouldn't use psychedelics, period - but they don't know any better and end up using them anyways. Bad things usually result, and invariably the press and law enforcement will pin the blame on the drugs, not on the people who are incapable of being responsible about drug use.

I would chance a guess that this recent spate of incidents is probably because a lot of colleges have just started summer break... kids are done with their final exams... what else to do but eat some LSD now that you're free of your worldly academic responsibilities? :smile: I just wish they were a little smarter about it!

Also, what's with arresting the kid who was "throwing himself on the ground in the middle of the street"? How do you even do that? And how is it an arrestable offense? I don't get it...

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: RealizedPotential]
    #12552332 - 05/12/10 10:24 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Agreed set and setting, but really.. How strong is an average hit these days?  Im 32, and when I did my acid (1994-2001) it usually took me two hits, and then there were no OEV's or anything unless you smoked alot.

Is shit just plain stronger?  I remember new year's eve, 1996 on 4 hits of Mr. T


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: smokescreen]
    #12552387 - 05/12/10 10:34 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

When was the last time you smoked acid?

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: EdgeChaos]
    #12552411 - 05/12/10 10:38 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

I'm pretty sure he means smoked a lot of weed with it, since that would amplify the effects.

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: Mycjunky]
    #12552455 - 05/12/10 10:47 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

I got some liquid drops for free at a rave out of an eye dropper, like 3 drops on a cube and it was like taking an ounce of shrooms but in that different way that acid is.:smile:


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: Mycjunky]
    #12552459 - 05/12/10 10:47 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

I dunno...  Something sounds funny...  Its possible that people in parts of florida are just idiots.  No offense to those here...  I dunno...  cid has been pretty good as long as I can remember(10+ years).  No real change in the over all strength that is.  Sure batch to batch the strength fluctuates but it normally takes 2 hits to have me sitting in acid-land. 

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: Mycjunky] * 1
    #12552490 - 05/12/10 10:54 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

One thing to consider is that the substance taken was NOT LSD at all. If someone tells a cop they took or are on LSD, it only means that they bought or were given something that they were told was LSD and believed it to be so.

In reality, it could have been virtually any research chemical or combination. The cops have no reason to investigate further because they were told that's what it was and LSD is an easy target to demonize in the press.

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: veggie]
    #12552552 - 05/12/10 11:06 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Adverse reaction... wtf!?!?


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: veggie] * 1
    #12552554 - 05/12/10 11:06 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Yeah, that sounds like some RC, not LSD.

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: veggie]
    #12552586 - 05/12/10 11:14 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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veggie said:
One thing to consider is that the substance taken was NOT LSD at all. If someone tells a cop they took or are on LSD, it only means that they bought or were given something that they were told was LSD and believed it to be so.

In reality, it could have been virtually any research chemical or combination. The cops have no reason to investigate further because they were told that's what it was and LSD is an easy target to demonize in the press.




True... I do have the inclination to think that based on the nature of some of these reports, perhaps the substance wasn't LSD at all. But I also don't want to immediately pin the blame on "not LSD" when there's nothing other than the questionable nature of the reports to lend evidence to that belief.

It certainly is unusual to see this many bad reactions in one place in such a short time, though... Hmm.

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: TryptamineDream]
    #12552669 - 05/12/10 11:34 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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On May 8, a 21-year-old male subject took LSD and wandered away from his residence. He left his shoes, adequate clothing, and cell phone behind and did not tell anyone where he was going. He wandered around the forest for days while concerned friends and family looked for him. He eventually returned a couple days later.




i think that is awesome to tell you the truth,but the rest sounds like some horseshit almost, i donno..


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: Mycjunky]
    #12552757 - 05/12/10 11:48 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

From someone who took two good hits about twelve hours ago...I just don't see what kind of setting would cause a man to chop off his own testes:confused:.

It has to be fucked though.

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: ben_dover0802]
    #12552768 - 05/12/10 11:50 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

I've done LSD for many years, and I can attest that it doesn't make folks do stuff like that.

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: Le_Canard]
    #12552818 - 05/12/10 11:59 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

smoke acid, crack, watch redtube (rinse)
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    #12552992 - 05/13/10 12:39 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

people die every day from alcohol and tobacco

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: morrowasted]
    #12553004 - 05/13/10 12:41 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

That's the funniest shit I've heard in awhile.:rofl2:

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: veggie]
    #12553216 - 05/13/10 01:24 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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veggie said:
One thing to consider is that the substance taken was NOT LSD at all. If someone tells a cop they took or are on LSD, it only means that they bought or were given something that they were told was LSD and believed it to be so.

In reality, it could have been virtually any research chemical or combination. The cops have no reason to investigate further because they were told that's what it was and LSD is an easy target to demonize in the press.




Does anyone think its pcp i mean people do stuff like that on pcp dont they u dont feel anything and plus u see scary shit most of the time. so yea just a guess?

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: ryanchalk]
    #12553541 - 05/13/10 03:02 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Pcp was the first thing I thought of but I don't think you can take it orally, or atleast not thinking it's acid cause it'd probably take a lot compared to lsd.

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    #12553595 - 05/13/10 03:33 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

There's no such thing as an acid flashback.


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    #12554017 - 05/13/10 07:56 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Sounds like a RC such as that bromo dragon, or sum thing similar, Thought about hurting someone else while tripping, never my self- And now we have demons in the sewer system,hopefully they didn't take over the alligators, and giant rats.  O p.s  Have sum xanax or Valium on hand so if you or Ur friend has bad trip give them one they will calm down, Thorazine if it is really bad-


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: idunno]
    #12554054 - 05/13/10 08:10 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

simple explanation:
quote " sounds like all these people have undiagnosed mental issues.. "
i can almost sense it with stories of this nature...a good guide may have been able to control the outcome of these trips. poor bastards gone and made himself a unic. :shrug:


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: elaspeinreason]
    #12554088 - 05/13/10 08:24 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Ive personally witnessed people freaking out like this it happened to my friend a couple years back he took off all his clothes and started rambling on about stuff and I only understood about 90% of what he was saying. He then threw himself of the floor and started puking everywhere and convulsing having seizures my other friend whos house it was got his dad and they called the police. He also punched through a glass window and his hand was all cut up the cops got here and restrained him and then put him in a straight jacket onto a stretcher and into and ambulance.. That night was insane i wil never forget it I was in shock for days after. It makes me question what he actually took if it was LSD or some stupid research chemical. I will never buy things off the street ever again in my life waste of time and money and it is way too expensive and you never know what you are getting. Hell the weed you buy could be sprayed with windex or roach killer you never know.

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: adamantasaurus]
    #12554146 - 05/13/10 08:46 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

... Come on you cut your balls off because there were monsters in them....Someone is and was crazy....


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: rodfarva]
    #12554153 - 05/13/10 08:47 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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There's no such thing as an acid flashback.




Because me + the hundreds of other people who report online as to having HPPD are in no way feeling anything similar to when we took LSD? And the many people who are clinically diagnosed with HPPD? And when we smoke good Sativa and sometimes hit a +3 trip randomly, this just ISN'T happening to us right? We are hallucinating our own hallucinations?

:rolleyes:

Seems almost more ignorant to believe there is ANY substance on the planet that can induce a 100% safe reaction 100% of the time.

It's like someone smoking cigs their whole life in LA that gets lung cancer then blames it on the surrounding air quality. Because we all love cigs and are too scared to admit that they DO cause problems for some people.

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: veggie] * 1
    #12554184 - 05/13/10 08:57 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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Last night, officers responded to the 900 block of H Street where an 18-year-old male subject, who was under the influence of LSD




Still it is safer for crazy and/or violent people to eat LSD then for them to have guns, and I'm sure those same police would defend the open gun market. Some police stations have actually sold fire arms seized from criminals.

No way is this really about 'danger'.

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: Freedom]
    #12554206 - 05/13/10 09:01 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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Quote:

veggie said:

Last night, officers responded to the 900 block of H Street where an 18-year-old male subject, who was under the influence of LSD




No way is this really about 'danger'.




Anyone who knows anything about Arcata H street knows that a late-night flailing around in the middle of the road is OK, not dangerous and quite normal for the area.

Just don't block the way to Dons.


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: CosmicLion]
    #12554249 - 05/13/10 09:11 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

lol set and setting my ass.  If I sat in a garage with a head full of chemicals and dangerous materials, I still wouldn't cut my nuts off.  This guy had something going on in the upstairs prior to his dick chopping fiasco.

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    #12554304 - 05/13/10 09:28 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Dude tripped his balls off I guess.

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    #12554311 - 05/13/10 09:31 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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Dude tripped his balls off I guess.




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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: CosmicLion]
    #12554401 - 05/13/10 10:04 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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Last night, officers responded to the 900 block of H Street where an 18-year-old male subject, who was under the influence of LSD




No way is this really about 'danger'.




Anyone who knows anything about Arcata H street knows that a late-night flailing around in the middle of the road is OK, not dangerous and quite normal for the area.

Just don't block the way to Dons.





and don't do L on H Street

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: Freedom]
    #12554415 - 05/13/10 10:08 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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and don't do L on H Street




Word, H st is more of a DMT kind of road


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: CosmicLion]
    #12554473 - 05/13/10 10:20 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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rodfarva said:
There's no such thing as an acid flashback.




Because me + the hundreds of other people who report online as to having HPPD are in no way feeling anything similar to when we took LSD? And the many people who are clinically diagnosed with HPPD? And when we smoke good Sativa and sometimes hit a +3 trip randomly, this just ISN'T happening to us right? We are hallucinating our own hallucinations?

:rolleyes:

Seems almost more ignorant to believe there is ANY substance on the planet that can induce a 100% safe reaction 100% of the time.

It's like someone smoking cigs their whole life in LA that gets lung cancer then blames it on the surrounding air quality. Because we all love cigs and are too scared to admit that they DO cause problems for some people.




Better than I could of put it.


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: MustNotBe]
    #12554501 - 05/13/10 10:25 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Oh come on....tripping for days, strong flash backs days later.  There's no way this is LSD.

I guess it is scary if people thought it was LSD, since it means it could happen to anyone buying off the street.

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    #12554507 - 05/13/10 10:27 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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Dude tripped his balls off I guess.




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    #12554519 - 05/13/10 10:28 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: CosmicLion]
    #12554520 - 05/13/10 10:28 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

2 cases of flashbacks, one case of a dude chopping his balls off, one kid being gone for 2 days (completely understandable), a dude throwing himself in the street (he was probably just having a good time... maybe he thought it was a slipnslide)

what are the odds that these are happening within a month of eachother, in the same area?

maybe it was DOB

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    #12554861 - 05/13/10 11:36 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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One thing to consider is that the substance taken was NOT LSD at all.




i was wondering why nobody was thinking that this is some kind of RC put on blotter... shit sounds evil


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    #12554863 - 05/13/10 11:36 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

acid is a tool for the brain, you just have to know how to use it. and i doubt it was lsd, it could have been 250+ other designer drugs. these storys get filtered thew so many people. pluss, people don't want to read "guy cuts off balls on 5-meo-dmt" also, that is a ridiculous  exaggeration of psychosis, it's a momentary confusion at best. you need to remodel before you can start putting up additions. yah dig?


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    #12554915 - 05/13/10 11:46 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Personally, I dont believe any of these LSD horror stories. I bet its all propaganda


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    #12554959 - 05/13/10 11:55 AM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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Personally, I dont believe any of these LSD horror stories. I bet its all propaganda




I'm sure....

Just like it's all hearsay that people but Research Chemicals on blotter... that doesn't REALLY happen, its all pure family fluff and no one EVER had ANY bad reaction to WHATEVER bitter mystery blotter they put in their mouth.

I'm sure DOx hasn't ACTUALLY tested positive on blotters, the government just gives third party labs fake results to publish to make people think LSD isn't LSD anymore!

Yea lets eat EVERYTHING that comes to me on paper because its PURE and WILL NEVER HURT ME!

Even though I bought it from a grungy transient that smells like liquored cheese...

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    #12555018 - 05/13/10 12:06 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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There's no such thing as an acid flashback.




Because me + the hundreds of other people who report online as to having HPPD are in no way feeling anything similar to when we took LSD? And the many people who are clinically diagnosed with HPPD? And when we smoke good Sativa and sometimes hit a +3 trip randomly, this just ISN'T happening to us right? We are hallucinating our own hallucinations?

:rolleyes:

Seems almost more ignorant to believe there is ANY substance on the planet that can induce a 100% safe reaction 100% of the time.

It's like someone smoking cigs their whole life in LA that gets lung cancer then blames it on the surrounding air quality. Because we all love cigs and are too scared to admit that they DO cause problems for some people.




SO you have acid flash backs huh? You do realize that Marijuana is a psychedelic drug right?
Sure you feel things similar to when you are on LSD. when you start playing with acid/shrooms/weed you experience dejevous, strong emotions, and amplification of importance surrounding things you are potentially already familiar with. So you see a visual distortion every once in a while? I do to, they are quite similar to acid and accompany migrane headaches. I swear for the first 20 min it's just like acid visuals (less colors) except ive had them long before i was old enough to do drugs. I also experience emotions on a regular basis that are strong and unpredictable at times. I dont attribute these to LSD either.

The fact that you are smoking herb and claiming it triggers a "flashback" is unscientific at best. Every so often i had reality bending, psychedelic weed experiences. Realize weed's effect is much less predictable by weight than LSD and cubes. an 1/8 or a blotter usually are pretty =... different pot i smoke ranges from ineffective to holey shit.

Don't argue me with bullshit evidence, do you think lsd stays in your spinal cord? Do you realize the amount of LSD you will do in your lifetime (active chems) will not amount to the size of a pea?


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    #12555081 - 05/13/10 12:19 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Could it have been PCP?


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    #12555131 - 05/13/10 12:26 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

This is an Arcata Police press release.  And there is a lot of flat out bullshit in it regarding LSD.  The whole thing reads like something out of DARE.

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    #12555236 - 05/13/10 12:49 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Since there is no consensus for the word 'flashback' lets define it in the most broad logical descriptive way possible:

'Re-experiencing, at least in part, some of the effects of a psychedelic without having re-ingested the psychedelic'

This has nothing to do with the volume of the substance ingested nor does it have to do with the BS notion that LSD stays in your spinal cord.

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Sure you feel things similar to when you are on LSD. So you see a visual distortion every once in a while? I do to, they are quite similar to acid and accompany migraine headaches. I swear for the first 20 min it's just like acid visuals (less colors) except ive had them long before i was old enough to do drugs. I also experience emotions on a regular basis that are strong and unpredictable at times. I dont attribute these to LSD either.




I get migraines too and the zig-zag blurry visual distortion that can take over most of the field of vision, this is NOT an effect similar to LSD, this is an effect of getting a migraine.

I'm not some tard that gets migraine zig-zags or  "spins" from alcohol  and thinks 'This is like LSD I must be having a flashback from my spinal cord stash!' nor do I feel like I'm tripping because I'm particularly moody today. Maybe that's like LSD to you but I've had enough strong doses of LSD to know the difference between a headache and tripping balls.

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The fact that you are smoking herb and claiming it triggers a "flashback" is unscientific at best. Every so often i had reality bending, psychedelic weed experiences.




LSD + DMT + Mushrooms all give me persistent PSYCHEDELIC effects for up to several weeks afterward, regardless of cannabis. I maintained my distinctly psychedelic daily HPPD after ceasing cannabis use for a year.

I claimed what I experience to be HPPD, which it is. I smoked herb for 8 years before tripping, a lot of it good indoor chronic. It was only after I started using psychedelics, particularly after my biggest 10+ hit LSD experience that I began TRIPPING EVERY TIME I SMOKED.

It is not fun, its overwhelming and has ruined weed for me.

So don't tell me that I'm not experiencing HPPD or am "getting a migraine" when I can no longer smoke more then .2g of ANY weed without getting decent visuals and overwhelmingly psychedelic mind states.

Psychedelics imprint our minds with strong neuronal connections from experiences leaving deep psychological impacts. To deny the effects these changes can have on the brain is denying every bit of research done showing that psychedelics create lasting changes in psyche. To have lasting impressions on the psyche one has restructured the order of their psychology on a biological level. If on a particularly high and visual dose this EASILY translates into lasting changes in ones visual perception, no different restructuring of neurons that that which causes the positive effects that LSD + Psilocybin have been PROVEN to have.

Ayahuasca is an entirely different story as it has been proven that it increases the density of serotonin receptors in the brain by up to 25%. The increase in density drastically changes the brains processing ability within the 5-HT (Serotonin) system while allowing your synapses to catalyze many more site activations using your CURRENT SOBER amounts of serotonin. That means that Ayahuasca can give you physiological change directly on a functioning system correlated with visual perception.

To deny HPPD's existence is to deny a clinically proven disorder that specifically originates from psychedelic use.

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: CosmicLion]
    #12555324 - 05/13/10 01:05 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

I would equate these physical changes you speak to about the same degree in which the platter on a hard drive changes when you record data on it.

I dont deny psychedelic effects are long lasting or pervasive to normal behavior, and you might be able to tell from my post history and shit that I am an experienced user as well. My outlook in life is totally different, and among other things my "bad trips" have resonated in several sober moments that made me experience physical body reactions and feelings long after.

I dont call it a flashback because it was in a context that reminded me of a trip, and adrenalin response, seritonin release etc. are all adequate reasons for how i felt. The fact that the situation compelled a reminder of the lsd experience doesn't affirm it was a secondary effect, even if i wouldn't have felt that way without dropping lsd at all.


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: rodfarva]
    #12555383 - 05/13/10 01:17 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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I would equate these physical changes you speak to about the same degree in which the platter on a hard drive changes when you record data on it.

I dont call it a flashback because it was in a context that reminded me of a trip, and adrenalin response, seritonin release etc. are all adequate reasons for how i felt. The fact that the situation compelled a reminder of the lsd experience doesn't affirm it was a secondary effect, even if i wouldn't have felt that way without dropping lsd at all.




Interesting metaphor with the hard drive, stimulates some good perceptions. 

So you've bad bad trips that make you have a prolonged physical reaction involving an array of hormones + neurochemicals that reproduce a state of being in response to the brain Flashing Back to the experience it had on it's "bad trip" and reproduces the physiological response appropriate for its perceived threat, which was in fact, a literal Flash of neurons remembering Back to when the trauma happened forcing the body to respond in the same way it did before.

All of this directly as a result of your "bad trips" but not caused by those bad trips? The congruency is fading...


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: CosmicLion]
    #12555425 - 05/13/10 01:24 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

I knew a guy that chopped his fingers off with an electric saw before, zomg quick make illegal!!!111

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    #12555442 - 05/13/10 01:27 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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I knew a guy that chopped his fingers off with an electric saw before, zomg quick make illegal!!!111




Lol, just his fingers? Not so bad...

A little HPPD? Meh, life is better this way IMO

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    #12555540 - 05/13/10 01:47 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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Yeah, that sounds like some RC, not LSD.



I find im not as fucked on RCs as acid can do to me. It def wasn't an RC. Might not have been acid either though. Sounds alot like pcp to me...

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    #12555549 - 05/13/10 01:50 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

No? Well, I don't do many RC's beyond JWH so I'll take your word for it. But yeah, that wasn't acid.

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    #12555743 - 05/13/10 02:32 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

you guys do know it IS possible to freak out on LSD right?


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    #12555763 - 05/13/10 02:35 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Yes, it is possible, although I never have, personally (and I've done a ton over the years). But I don't think it makes people cut their nuts off.

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    #12555772 - 05/13/10 02:37 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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Yes, it is possible, although I never have, personally (and I've done a ton over the years). But I don't think it makes people cut their nuts off.




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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: CosmicLion]
    #12555921 - 05/13/10 03:07 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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The fact that the situation compelled a reminder of the lsd experience doesn't affirm it was a secondary effect, even if i wouldn't have felt that way without dropping lsd at all.




It works the same as the first time i got shot at. The next time i saw someone with a gun i didn't flash back to the first experience, however that conditioning changed what my physical state and other responses were.


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: rodfarva]
    #12556017 - 05/13/10 03:26 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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It works the same as the first time i got shot at. The next time i saw someone with a gun i didn't flash back to the first experience, however that conditioning changed what my physical state and other responses were.




So your saying that taking LSD has potential to be as traumatizing as getting shot at... that's pretty scary dude

A lot of people would go through their whole lives AVOIDING situations where they may be shot at because they know its dangerous and potentially traumatizing. Many CHOOSE to ingest LSD thinking that trauma is not a real possibility and that no matter what the dose they will fine by morning. This is irresponsible drug use, plain and simple. Acceptance of the truth about the risks of ones actions is an essential element in the progress of human development. To deny any negative effects of something just because you are a fan of it is adolescent at best.

The fact that it CAN induce "trauma" and is not all flowers and tracers should be appreciated by every novice and avid user alike.


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: CosmicLion]
    #12556115 - 05/13/10 03:42 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Almost anything we chose to do provides the potential for a trauma. Trauma does not imply severity.

Also, i never suggested there was no potential harm from LSD, so again stop trying to argue me if you're going to bull shit.


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: rodfarva]
    #12556133 - 05/13/10 03:46 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

EVERYTHING WILL BE OK IF I JUST CUT HERE *snip* AND HERE *snip*.... aahhhh that's better, no more monsters.

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    #12556227 - 05/13/10 04:04 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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EVERYTHING WILL BE OK IF I JUST CUT HERE *snip* AND HERE *snip*.... aahhhh that's better, no more monsters.




Maybe he subconsciously wants the buttsecks and his balls were butt-blocking monsters forcing him towards women.

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: CosmicLion]
    #12556240 - 05/13/10 04:08 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

Well, at least he won't have hair on his back when he hits middle age.

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    #12556521 - 05/13/10 04:51 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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Well, at least he won't have hair on his back when he hits middle age.



yea, or testicles.





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EVERYTHING WILL BE OK IF I JUST CUT HERE *snip* AND HERE *snip*.... aahhhh that's better, no more monsters.




Maybe he subconsciously wants the buttsecks and his balls were butt-blocking monsters forcing him towards women.

:shrug:



maybe he cut them off then fucked himself in the holes were his balls used to be. :omgz:

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    #12556700 - 05/13/10 05:23 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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Many LSD users experience flashbacks long after initially using the drug.




Ya, too bad it's 1-2% at best. Weasel words give you away every time.

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    #12557501 - 05/13/10 07:29 PM (14 years, 9 days ago)

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Almost anything we chose to do provides the potential for a trauma. Trauma does not imply severity.




True, we choose to put ourselves in danger based on the level of expected risk. It's only fair that the assumptions we make to analyze those risks be accurate.

It just seems weird to say "LSD doesn't cause flashbacks" followed by "I experience symptoms of trauma every time I remember a my bad acid trip"

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Also, i never suggested there was no potential harm from LSD, so again stop trying to argue me if you're going to bull shit.




You are absolutely right, you didn't say LSD was harmless... we were talking about "flashbacks" on LSD and I went off compartmentalizing your statements as bigger ideas. Sorry dude, you do know what you are talking about I got carried away arguing the semantics of what a 'flashback' is or isn't then got on a high horse about if LSD has long-lasting effects... :peace:

I think the BIGGEST threat in regards to this WHOLE SITUATION is research chemicals. People take thumbprints of LSD and are fine but certain high doses of RC's cause serious problems for some which unfortunately get blamed on LSD since they are distributed on blotter.

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    #12559342 - 05/13/10 11:49 PM (14 years, 8 days ago)

12 years ago i was at a rave and this guy offer me some cid and it was in a eye drop bottle. he wanted to put a couple drop on my hand and have me lick it off. but i guess he was fucked up already cuz when he squeeze the bottle it broke and dump all over my hand and arm. i just freaked out and licked my whole arm to the finger. lets just say that had to be at least 10 hit of cid at once. even that i never thought about cutting off my balls.:weirdeyes:


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    #12560068 - 05/14/10 02:41 AM (14 years, 8 days ago)

yeah... the more i'm tripping, the more intimidating I think self castration would be


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    #12560610 - 05/14/10 07:27 AM (14 years, 8 days ago)

there are just crazy fuckers who will use any excuse to cut off their balls

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    #12571428 - 05/16/10 03:35 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

wtf, how come I never get flashbacks. :stonedjerk:


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    #12571772 - 05/16/10 07:16 AM (14 years, 6 days ago)

that guy took china white or something else, but probably
not LSD. or it was a bad batch really

I'm confused

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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: cc2]
    #12574043 - 05/16/10 04:09 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

:thumbdown::facepalm:


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: CMACD]
    #12574082 - 05/16/10 04:16 PM (14 years, 6 days ago)

Yeah, that's um... funny. I can't help but laugh when reading that headline. It's written as if the presence of monsters in his balls was a given, and the LSD was incidental.


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: AltecLansing]
    #12632275 - 05/26/10 02:14 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Any update on what these people were taking?


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Re: [CA] LSD Tripper Amputates, Flushes Monster-Containing Testicles [Re: darkczar]
    #12633074 - 05/26/10 04:41 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Gotta flush them monster balls!
Man! How do people get to freaking out like this? I am quite sure I have never even had the tiniest thought of anything self injurious tripping!
I'm more like old-wizard-kitty needs more pillows and weed... :lol:


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