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would this one peyote button do anything?
    #12549946 - 05/12/10 04:46 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

So I bought 2 young peyote cacti, one to give as a gift for my sister who is going to grow it. The other I planned on doing the same, but I kinda feel just like chowing down on it. Here's a pic of both of em, but I only have one to eat.

I realize that even if I felt any effect at all it would be very mild, but I'm in the mood for something like that right now. :smile:


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: dondija]
    #12549964 - 05/12/10 04:48 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Ooo...so cute and pretty!  :smile:  I dunno, I would probably replant it.

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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: MOTH]
    #12549979 - 05/12/10 04:50 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Where did you get them from?


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: dondija]
    #12549981 - 05/12/10 04:50 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I don't know the exact dose it depends on how much that actually weighs, is it the average "button size"
http://www.erowid.org/plants/peyote/peyote_dose.shtml
Erowid says 3-6 peyote buttons is a light dose
it would be a shame to waste your beautiful and rare cactus you should grow it


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: MOTH]
    #12549993 - 05/12/10 04:52 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I know I should, that was my plan all along. It would really be something to let it grow for 3-5 years and then reap the rewards. I'm sure I would feel more of a connection to the plant after nurturing it for so long, but alas I lack patience...

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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: dondija]
    #12550009 - 05/12/10 04:54 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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I know I should, that was my plan all along. It would really be something to let it grow for 3-5 years and then reap the rewards. I'm sure I would feel more of a connection to the plant after nurturing it for so long, but alas I lack patience...



I'd say grow it just for the sake of growing a rare plant... if you want mescaline buy a large not so rare cactus like t bridgessi off ebay or join the native american church!


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: bootedboy]
    #12550017 - 05/12/10 04:55 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Where did you get them from?




I ummm <looks around> bought them from an online smartshop based in Holland. I got those along with 50 grams of sclerotia (type of shrooms). I realize the risk involved, but they were willing to ship to the US so I figured what the hell. Also, just one of those bad boys was around $40.

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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: dondija]
    #12550022 - 05/12/10 04:55 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i think you need lots of buttons to trip, like at least 5 or 6 i could be wrong but in indian ceremonies they normally have lots and lots of peyote buttons and chew on them for a good amount of time


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: dondija]
    #12550028 - 05/12/10 04:56 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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dondija said:
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bootedboy said:
Where did you get them from?




I ummm <looks around> bought them from an online smartshop based in Holland. I got those along with 50 grams of sclerotia (type of shrooms). I realize the risk involved, but they were willing to ship to the US so I figured what the hell. Also, just one of those bad boys was around $40.



WOW!
Wait... what are you reffering to by bad boys?
You got the cactus and the shrooms... what are bad boys?


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: dondija]
    #12550038 - 05/12/10 04:57 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Or just go to a hotel in canada for weekedn and trip bawls off peyote


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: Iamheasyouarehe]
    #12550077 - 05/12/10 05:03 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

don't eat, you'll barely feel anything at all - you'd have a better time smoking a joint.

grow that, buy another, grow that too. if you do a good job give it 5 years and you'll have a dose and enough cactus to keep alive.

to be honest man, these cacti are endangered, you shouldn't consume them unless you're willing to grow a few too - get some bridgesii or pachanoi if you're interested in mescaline.

EDIT: also, just eat the shrooms?

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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: haymaker]
    #12550080 - 05/12/10 05:04 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

just one of those bad boys means


just one of those peyote buttons was 40$


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: fallenlsd]
    #12550279 - 05/12/10 05:30 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

For the love of god don't eat it yet!


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: atom]
    #12550342 - 05/12/10 05:38 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Awww now you're making me feel all guilty...and too late I scarfed the whole thing.

You are right though, I'm going to get more sclerotia soon so I'll get another button to grow. I really shouldn't disrespect a plant that is so rare and grows basically in one region only.

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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: dondija]
    #12550437 - 05/12/10 05:55 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Awww now you're making me feel all guilty...and too late I scarfed the whole thing.

You are right though, I'm going to get more sclerotia soon so I'll get another button to grow. I really shouldn't disrespect a plant that is so rare and grows basically in one region only.



YOU EAT IT?
Well... tell us how it goes. :shrug:

This is me with how many buttons I eat... daily!



JUST KIDDING!

I only eat these kinds of buttons...


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: dondija]
    #12550483 - 05/12/10 06:01 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Too late now lol but at least you are remorseful


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: MkUltra25]
    #12550703 - 05/12/10 06:29 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

tragic!

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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: islanduniverse]
    #12551139 - 05/12/10 07:22 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Idiot...:thumbdown:.


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: dondija]
    #12551299 - 05/12/10 07:45 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Awww now you're making me feel all guilty...and too late I scarfed the whole thing.

You are right though, I'm going to get more sclerotia soon so I'll get another button to grow. I really shouldn't disrespect a plant that is so rare and grows basically in one region only.



Any effect?


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: xanthar]
    #12551305 - 05/12/10 07:46 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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xanthar said:
Idiot...:thumbdown:.



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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: Iamheasyouarehe]
    #12551310 - 05/12/10 07:47 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Iamheasyouarehe said:
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xanthar said:
Idiot...:thumbdown:.



"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
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Nice


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: MkUltra25]
    #12551318 - 05/12/10 07:47 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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MkUltra25 said:
Quote:

Iamheasyouarehe said:
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xanthar said:
Idiot...:thumbdown:.



"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
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Nice



Thanks


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: Iamheasyouarehe]
    #12551386 - 05/12/10 07:56 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Any effect?




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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: Iamheasyouarehe]
    #12551836 - 05/12/10 08:58 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Iamheasyouarehe said:
Quote:

MkUltra25 said:
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Iamheasyouarehe said:
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xanthar said:
Idiot...:thumbdown:.



"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
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Nice



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Haha, yea I think that Dr. Seuss quote comes in handy for smug pricks like xanthar.

It's been about 4 hrs and I have noticed some effect. Kinda like the very onset of boomers. A slight tinge of pink/green/blue on surfaces and shit like that. Just feels good overall. For what it's worth I did smoke a ton too though.

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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: dondija]
    #12551962 - 05/12/10 09:21 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Haha, yea I think that Dr. Seuss quote comes in handy for smug pricks like xanthar.

It's been about 4 hrs and I have noticed some effect. Kinda like the very onset of boomers. A slight tinge of pink/green/blue on surfaces and shit like that. Just feels good overall. For what it's worth I did smoke a ton too though.



Whatever works for your brother! :thumbup:
It is awesome for xanthar because that quote is his signature!
I wouldn't call him a smug jerk though... I don't even know him... just had to point of that hypocryisy


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: dondija]
    #12552424 - 05/12/10 10:40 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Awww now you're making me feel all guilty...and too late I scarfed the whole thing.

You are right though, I'm going to get more sclerotia soon so I'll get another button to grow. I really shouldn't disrespect a plant that is so rare and grows basically in one region only.



I dunno why but reading that made me sad. I try to justify my feelings, at first I thought it might of been jealousy, but I think that it should of been given a chance to grow and bond with you for a better experience. But you did what you did, and there's no changing that. I don't think i'd ever be able to bring myself to eat peyote if I had only one, something like that deserves more respect, especially for as rare and valuable (sentimental) it would be for me. Having a piece of history would be amazing. I hope you had a good time regardless :sun:


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: HappyTrippin]
    #12552556 - 05/12/10 11:06 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

what a waste of $40 and a rare cactus... I second the idiot comment....


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: luckytriple6]
    #12552869 - 05/13/10 12:11 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

it's a waste because he didn't trip?

personally i don't think eating something and not tripping from it when you could trip from it is a waste.. i mean that 40$ could've gotten him high in multiple years or he could've eaten it tonight to see what it would be like and turns out he didn't have a bad time.. he just didn't trip..

i think if you enjoyed your night then it wasn't a waste at all; unless you had bills to pay and spent the money on peyote instead lol

if mescaline is truly a deep soul medicine as i so often hear it then none of it is a waste.. of course peyote is a rare cactus and it would've been smarter to eat something else; but he ate it so why call him an idiot?

putting negativity out there for no reason


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: fallenlsd]
    #12553112 - 05/13/10 01:01 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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it's a waste because he didn't trip?

personally i don't think eating something and not tripping from it when you could trip from it is a waste.. i mean that 40$ could've gotten him high in multiple years or he could've eaten it tonight to see what it would be like and turns out he didn't have a bad time.. he just didn't trip..

i think if you enjoyed your night then it wasn't a waste at all; unless you had bills to pay and spent the money on peyote instead lol

if mescaline is truly a deep soul medicine as i so often hear it then none of it is a waste.. of course peyote is a rare cactus and it would've been smarter to eat something else; but he ate it so why call him an idiot?

putting negativity out there for no reason




Its not about the fact that he didnt feel much, and we're not talking about keeping it to let the potency increase.

I speak for everyone when I say it would have been alot more appreciated being alive and cared for by one of us in a caring home. :thumbup:

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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: twiztidthoughts]
    #12553553 - 05/13/10 03:09 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

dude what ?

you can never speak for everyone and just because the dude ate the cactus means he didn't appreciate it ?

or is it because he didn't trip that he didn't appreciate it?

seems to me like he enjoyed the experience; even though it was a small one, and he is now going to buy more cactus in addition to the cactus he's already growing

so let's see, he ate this cactus and decided to get more to grow more to be appreciated more

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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: fallenlsd]
    #12553931 - 05/13/10 07:15 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I'm sorry I ever posted on here. The "plant" wouldn't appreciate anything- IT'S A FUCKING PLANT! I mean I think people revere peyote a little too much. I realize tons of people view it as a sacrament and that's great for them, but seriously people need to chill the fuck out. It is something I bought most likely from a growhouse filled with the fucking things. It did more or less what I expected, a very faint feeling, and that's fine for me. Next time I'll make sure to fucking pray to the thing and then dance around it in a tunic with Ravi fuckign Shankar playing.

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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: dondija]
    #12554009 - 05/13/10 07:52 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

people are so caught up in 'tripping', the mescaline, castaneda stories ect they forget to realize that the peyote is not like that.

This Pejuta wakan is a medicine. I don't care if you eat one, two or none, it is never a waste. That is what creator put it here for. In some way, the OP has gained a benefit that may not be visible to us or to him right away, but i assure you that medicine came to him for a reason. Lets not judge others because we don't know what they are going through, this could be what he really needed. Effects that you might tought as insignificant or a "waste of a trip" are really the msot beautiful subtle things that a lot of you don't have the capacity to comprehend.

When i eat one, two, or however many i can feel the spirit of this medicine. It is a holy thing. Treat it with respect.

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IT'S A FUCKING PLANT! I mean I think people revere peyote a little too much




Whats Ironic is that i probably revere it more than most people yet i did not judge you for eating it. Simply because, it is your relationship with this medicine at this point.

It is a plant! but it is also something more than that. It is a spiritual force. It is a catalyst for my own evolution into becoming a person that is impeccable in thought, speech, and action.

If you knew what this medicine has brought into my life, into the lives of my realatives you would see why we revere it as holy. If you could see some of the things i see in the morning in the teepee, when that water comes around.... You would see why peyote is everything to me.


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: dondija]
    #12554300 - 05/13/10 09:27 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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It is something I bought most likely from a growhouse filled with the fucking things.

Next time I'll make sure to fucking pray to the thing and then dance around it in a tunic with Ravi fuckign Shankar playing.





Lol that's GREAT! No making fun of you man! This made me :rofl:

Believe me man, I hold cacti (not just peyote) and for that matter all plants and animals in the same regard I would another human being. Peyote is not more important or more special than Pedro or Torch just because its endangered. We're all LIVING beings on the same damn planet. Its only common sense to treat all living things with the respect you would expect for yourself.
We all know that there is not a 'spirit' (like a ghost)living in the cactus. It is indeed a 'teacher' but not in the traditional sense of the word.
These are just ways of putting it. They're metaphors. I appreciate them, but I believe that some people take them a little too seriously.
Do what you want to do man. Don't worry about what people on here say.


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: MkUltra25]
    #12554314 - 05/13/10 09:33 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

My only qaulm is that it is an endangered species... but if it DID come from a growhouse and not the Southwest, then probably no harm/ no foul. I'd probably just grow it for the prestige lol


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: gabbaganchi]
    #12554338 - 05/13/10 09:46 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

True buts its not one person eating one or two thats the problem even if it did come from the southwest. Its the people that go out there and find patches and rip them all up just for monetary gain or just to trip


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: MkUltra25]
    #12554421 - 05/13/10 10:09 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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We all know that there is not a 'spirit' (like a ghost)living in the cactus. It is indeed a 'teacher' but not in the traditional sense of the word.
These are just ways of putting it. They're metaphors.




not necessarily. For a lakota, a huichole, a tarahumara, for someone born into peyote culture the idea of it being a conscious being or a spirit is not a metaphor. This is just the way that you have come to interpret it, but we cannot always assume that others are somehow deluded because their perspective is different.


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #12554489 - 05/13/10 10:23 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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We all know that there is not a 'spirit' (like a ghost)living in the cactus. It is indeed a 'teacher' but not in the traditional sense of the word.
These are just ways of putting it. They're metaphors.




not necessarily. For a lakota, a huichole, a tarahumara, for someone born into peyote culture the idea of it being a conscious being or a spirit is not a metaphor. This is just the way that you have come to interpret it, but we cannot always assume that others are somehow deluded because their perspective is different.




Of course it is all perspective/cultural background/ conditioning. I had no idea I was coming across that way, but I could've worded it a bit differently I suppose.

Of course it has a spirit in the sense that we all do. I have a spirit, a dog has a spirit, a mushroom or a tree has a spirit. All living things have spirits, even though there is no way to prove it empirically.

What I'm saying is that a ghost is not going to rise up out of the damn cactus and school you on your shit. Its not like a genie in a bottle which is the way it seems alot of people take it.


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #12554530 - 05/13/10 10:30 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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It is a plant! But it is also something more than that. It is a spiritual force. It is a catalyst for my own evolution into becoming a person that is impeccable in thought, speech, and action.




I have nothing more to say other than the fact that I thought that comment was, for the want of a better word, delightful. With your permission, I'd probably like to include that in my signature at some stage.


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: FeAraNdl0aThInG]
    #12554630 - 05/13/10 10:52 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

So just to clarify I really meant no disrespect by eating the button. I do appreciate the fact that there are many who feel a spiritual connection with the cactus and deeply value what it teaches.

That said it's not like I went into the desert with a knife and a trashbag to ravage and desecrate wild peyote. Mine was bought online from the Netherlands, and with them advertising all different sizes of young cacti, I'm sure it's a growroom.

I just wish people wouldn't project their own beliefs and convictions onto others, especially for something fairl insignificant.

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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: dondija]
    #12554705 - 05/13/10 11:07 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Well all spirituality aside, an endangered species is an endangered species and that is where everybody's concern was. At least mine.
That has nothing to do with beliefs and convictions, it has to do with the fact that an entire species is dissapearing entirely due to man.

Thats why most of us buy Torch or Pedro. And most of us who do have peyote cultivate and harvest when its time to harvest while still keeping the plant alive. You don't eat fruit before its ripe do you? Or smoke bud before its mature?

I'm not bitching at you or disrespecting you at all man, thems just the facts. Has nothing to do with beliefs and convictions.

All that aside man its cool that you got a positive experience out of it and I hope that if you do acquire more you wait for it to mature and I assure you it will be much better of an experience.


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: MkUltra25]
    #12554812 - 05/13/10 11:27 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Fair enough. And rest assured, I do plan on cultivating a cactus at some point. The one I gave my sister is in a pot and since she also works on an organic farm I'm positive she'll take great care of it.

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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: dondija]
    #12554820 - 05/13/10 11:29 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Cool man.

And for the record, every time I buy fresh Pedro I always tell myself I am going to plant it but never do. I even have clay pots and cactus soil.


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: dondija]
    #12554912 - 05/13/10 11:46 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm sorry I ever posted on here. The "plant" wouldn't appreciate anything- IT'S A FUCKING PLANT! I mean I think people revere peyote a little too much. I realize tons of people view it as a sacrament and that's great for them, but seriously people need to chill the fuck out. It is something I bought most likely from a growhouse filled with the fucking things. It did more or less what I expected, a very faint feeling, and that's fine for me. Next time I'll make sure to fucking pray to the thing and then dance around it in a tunic with Ravi fuckign Shankar playing.




no matter what you say or do on here there's going to be people who don't agree with you because they think they know what's up

you just gotta shrug it off because these people don't want to hear anything other than what they "know" so they're never going to come around or change or be compassionate or anything like that, they're just going to debate what they think is right or wrong


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: fallenlsd]
    #12555082 - 05/13/10 12:19 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm sorry I ever posted on here. The "plant" wouldn't appreciate anything- IT'S A FUCKING PLANT! I mean I think people revere peyote a little too much. I realize tons of people view it as a sacrament and that's great for them, but seriously people need to chill the fuck out. It is something I bought most likely from a growhouse filled with the fucking things. It did more or less what I expected, a very faint feeling, and that's fine for me. Next time I'll make sure to fucking pray to the thing and then dance around it in a tunic with Ravi fuckign Shankar playing.




no matter what you say or do on here there's going to be people who don't agree with you because they think they know what's up

you just gotta shrug it off because these people don't want to hear anything other than what they "know" so they're never going to come around or change or be compassionate or anything like that, they're just going to debate what they think is right or wrong





Point well taken, fallenlsd. This is after all the INTAR WEBZ lol

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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: dondija]
    #12555202 - 05/13/10 12:42 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I think another reason people are hatin' on you is because the shroomery is full of people who love to cultivate things, whether it be mushrooms, cacti, or other plants. Many members here have gained an extreme amount of patience through there endevors of cultivation. So basically, many members here would like nothing better than to wait and watch their little cactus mature. Anticipation, it is a drug in itself.


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: Iamheasyouarehe]
    #12555245 - 05/13/10 12:52 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Haha, yea I think that Dr. Seuss quote comes in handy for smug pricks like xanthar.

It's been about 4 hrs and I have noticed some effect. Kinda like the very onset of boomers. A slight tinge of pink/green/blue on surfaces and shit like that. Just feels good overall. For what it's worth I did smoke a ton too though.



Whatever works for your brother! :thumbup:
It is awesome for xanthar because that quote is his signature!
I wouldn't call him a smug jerk though... I don't even know him... just had to point of that hypocryisy hypocrisy.




If it wasn't endangered or had the OP been eating a portion off of an adult cactus then I would have nothing to say...my comment still stands though...sig be damned on this one :thumbup:.


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: MkUltra25]
    #12555332 - 05/13/10 01:06 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Well all spirituality aside, an endangered species is an endangered species and that is where everybody's concern was. At least mine.
That has nothing to do with beliefs and convictions, it has to do with the fact that an entire species is dissapearing entirely due to man.



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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: Metamorph]
    #12556014 - 05/13/10 03:25 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

if there's places in holland that are selling peyote


it's not that endangered


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: fallenlsd]
    #12556048 - 05/13/10 03:30 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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if there's places in holland that are selling peyote


it's not that endangered




Umm.... they are breeding them just to sell, they sure don't grow in holland, use your head.

I still love how OP asked if he'd trip off that one little button, everyone said it wouldn't do much if anything so OP ate it... why the fuck bother asking if you're not gonna listen.


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #12556674 - 05/13/10 05:20 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I agree with pretty much everything ShroomDoom said.


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: FeAraNdl0aThInG]
    #12556795 - 05/13/10 05:37 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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I have nothing more to say other than the fact that I thought that comment was, for the want of a better word, delightful. With your permission, I'd probably like to include that in my signature at some stage.



sure thing man!

I think the OP has gained a lot more from this than we might have previously imagined. Now he wants to grow it!!!

Being a steward of this medicine is a big thing. Even if the shops in holland just grow it to sell they are still stewards of this medicine. Anything we can do to help the species is good, but we also have to remember what the peyote is here for : to help us!
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Well all spirituality aside, an endangered species is an endangered species and that is where everybody's concern was. At least mine.
That has nothing to do with beliefs and convictions, it has to do with the fact that an entire species is dissapearing entirely due to man.]




I can totally relate to that view point. Truthfully what is dissapearing in some areas is thriving in others. It makes little impact on wild populations for people to ingest greenhouse specimens. Its still good that we are all here looking out for this medicine though. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside :peyotespectrum:

Thank you for looking out for this medicine.

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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #12556966 - 05/13/10 06:05 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Peyote is definitely more than just a drug...


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: luckytriple6]
    #12557070 - 05/13/10 06:26 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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if there's places in holland that are selling peyote


it's not that endangered




Umm.... they are breeding them just to sell, they sure don't grow in holland, use your head.

I still love how OP asked if he'd trip off that one little button, everyone said it wouldn't do much if anything so OP ate it... why the fuck bother asking if you're not gonna listen.




of course they don't grow there thank you for illustrating my point

people grow these things just sell them.. so as the supply of peyote decreases they grow more..

it's not like there's only 10 peyote cacti in the world and this guy ate one


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: fallenlsd]
    #12557969 - 05/13/10 08:30 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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I think the OP has gained a lot more from this than we might have previously imagined. Now he wants to grow it!!!






IMO OP was planning on growing to begin with but decided we were wrong saying he wouldn't trip so now that his cactus is gone he's gonna try(and probably fail) growing a cactus so he can trip.... once again growing for another rare cactus that won't be reintroduced into the wild where it belongs

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if there's places in holland that are selling peyote


it's not that endangered




Umm.... they are breeding them just to sell, they sure don't grow in holland, use your head.

I still love how OP asked if he'd trip off that one little button, everyone said it wouldn't do much if anything so OP ate it... why the fuck bother asking if you're not gonna listen.




of course they don't grow there thank you for illustrating my point

people grow these things just sell them.. so as the supply of peyote decreases they grow more..

it's not like there's only 10 peyote cacti in the world and this guy ate one




you totally misunderstood, those cactus are being bred for personal use/home garden, not to be reintroduced to the wild making them less endangered... They are still plenty endangered and should be protected...

/me is sick of psych section and will stick to other section of the forums where there is intelligent discussion


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: luckytriple6]
    #12558219 - 05/13/10 08:58 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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I think the OP has gained a lot more from this than we might have previously imagined. Now he wants to grow it!!!






IMO OP was planning on growing to begin with but decided we were wrong saying he wouldn't trip so now that his cactus is gone he's gonna try(and probably fail) growing a cactus so he can trip.... once again growing for another rare cactus that won't be reintroduced into the wild where it belongs





:shrug:

I didn't think that was why people grew them in europe...reintroducing them isn't the answer, obviously conservation of the land is.

I think the OP is smart enough to realize now you need 8- 10 times the amount he ate to "trip" as you so nicely put it. So in the end its a learning experience. Not totally a waste or a disgrace as some people might want to think.

If people really cared that much they would be raising money to buy habitat land, or bitching at the oil companies and ranchers that root plow the land, not silly stoners that eat one button. the damage this kid has done is minimal to say the mexicans that rip giant patches from the desert floor. now its those guys we should be chastising...just my two cents.


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #12558644 - 05/13/10 09:50 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Good point

I really don't see how ordering a peyote button from a greenhouse in Europe and eating it has any impact, whatsoever, on peyote in its native habitat, in America. Its his 40 dollars, let him do with it what he will. I'm sure that shop has plenty more buttons to sell for 40 bucks a pop...Shit maybe I should order some! It would really only be worth it to grow the thing though, at that price.

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    #12558867 - 05/13/10 10:24 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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I think the OP has gained a lot more from this than we might have previously imagined. Now he wants to grow it!!!






IMO OP was planning on growing to begin with but decided we were wrong saying he wouldn't trip so now that his cactus is gone he's gonna try(and probably fail) growing a cactus so he can trip.... once again growing for another rare cactus that won't be reintroduced into the wild where it belongs

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if there's places in holland that are selling peyote


it's not that endangered




Umm.... they are breeding them just to sell, they sure don't grow in holland, use your head.

I still love how OP asked if he'd trip off that one little button, everyone said it wouldn't do much if anything so OP ate it... why the fuck bother asking if you're not gonna listen.




of course they don't grow there thank you for illustrating my point

people grow these things just sell them.. so as the supply of peyote decreases they grow more..

it's not like there's only 10 peyote cacti in the world and this guy ate one




you totally misunderstood, those cactus are being bred for personal use/home garden, not to be reintroduced to the wild making them less endangered... They are still plenty endangered and should be protected...

/me is sick of psych section and will stick to other section of the forums where there is intelligent discussion




no, you misunderstood mr. intelligent.

those cactus are bred for personal use / home garden as you say

so it doesn't matter that he ate it because he's not reducing the amount of wild peyote there is, therefore they're at the same number in population as they were before he ate that one. duh.

please stay out of this section if you can't grasp the scope of the conversation and then act like the forum doesn't have any intelligent discussion.


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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: fallenlsd]
    #12560641 - 05/14/10 07:45 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for stickin up for me fallen. This whole thread has been pretty comical. And whoever called me a silly stoner I resent that! I prefer the term "pothead". :stoned:

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Re: would this one peyote button do anything? [Re: dondija]
    #12560715 - 05/14/10 08:14 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Hey just an excuse to buy more right?  I would probably have gained more enjoyment growing Peyote than eating it and catching a minor buzz.  Your call though.


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