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Presto 23 quart pressure cooker...
#12549906 - 05/12/10 04:42 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just recived my Presto 23 quart pressure cooker and though I havent used it yet seem to think its going to be a great cooker. However! On the box it says you can fit 20 pint jars but no matter how many times I try to fit these suposid 20 jars I can only fit 18. This may seem a bit OCD but I have already done all the calculations and I need exactly 40 jars. I refuse to pressure cook 4 bloody jars in a 23 quart PC, can someone please help me fit all 20? Thanks everyone!
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: hal5000]
#12549957 - 05/12/10 04:48 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe turn some of them on their sides?
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: hal5000]
#12549961 - 05/12/10 04:48 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you absolutely cannot fit those last two jars, just make more jars on the last run so you don't feel like you're wasting time, they don't have to be pints of whatever spawn you're using either, try some quarts, or some half pint PF cakes, or some half pints 1/4 full of grain to use for grain LC. (I usually end up doing the latter two if I ever don't fill my PC)
More jars can't hurt, in case one or two jars fail for some reason you'll just have backups if you make extras.
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: hal5000]
#12550025 - 05/12/10 04:56 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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You lazy bastard. First of all whyyyyy are you using pint jars when there are quart jars...Must be making cakes...pfff.... Theres no way you have to have 40 jars. You just want 40 jars. Don't mix up your wants and needs. And on top of that you're saying you aren't willing to do what it takes to get what you want? What? If you haven't removed the lifter from the bottom or tried laying the top few jars on their sides, which isn't necessarily recommended, then you are screwed.
This post is all sorts of wrong.
By the way, enjoy your new presto, I got the same one. Its sweet isn't it.
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: camplo] 1
#12550396 - 05/12/10 05:46 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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camplo said: You lazy bastard. First of all whyyyyy are you using pint jars when there are quart jars...Must be making cakes...pfff.... Theres no way you have to have 40 jars. You just want 40 jars. Don't mix up your wants and needs. And on top of that you're saying you aren't willing to do what it takes to get what you want? What? If you haven't removed the lifter from the bottom or tried laying the top few jars on their sides, which isn't necessarily recommended, then you are screwed.
This post is all sorts of wrong.
By the way, enjoy your new presto, I got the same one. Its sweet isn't it.
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Lazy bastard? hahah You clearly have a math learning disability because if you didnt you would see how incredibly asinine that statement was camplo. If you were to use Quart jars you would actually be doing MORE work than if you used pint jars. Let me break it down for you.
23 quart presto fits at maximum, 7 quart jars. 1 quart=946.35 cubic centimeters 946.35 x 7 =6624.45 cubic centimeters
whereas
23 quart presto fits at maximum, 20 pint jars 1 pint = 473.176 cubic centimeters 473.176 x 20 = 9463.52 cubic centimeters
now camplo if you grab a calculator and subtract 6624.45 from 9463.52 your left with 2839.07 cubic centimeters or 3.00001178 quarts. Thats 3 quarts LESS spawn per full pressure cooker load. Next time I want completely false information from a pretentious asshole Ill be sure to PM you.
Look im just looking for some good friendly information, there is no need to call people lasy bastards nor is there any reason to talk down to people. The shroomery wasnt founded on that, it was founded on friendly exchanges of advise and information.
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: hal5000]
#12550447 - 05/12/10 05:56 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Take the OCD meds and deal with it .. if you can't make em fit Like they said above get more jars .. lol
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: hal5000]
#12550453 - 05/12/10 05:57 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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23 quart presto fits at maximum, 7 quart jars.
Have three of these and fit 10 quart jars maximum.


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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: hal5000]
#12550479 - 05/12/10 06:01 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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use that extra space in the second run to experiment. eg, try a few jars with coffee, a few with gypsum, or to compare your results between grain, wbs, and brf.
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: hal5000]
#12550565 - 05/12/10 06:11 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Use bags. Sue Presto for false advertising.
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myco.alchemist said: Use bags. Sue Presto for false advertising.
LOL good idea's
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: hal5000]
#12550926 - 05/12/10 06:56 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I love my 23 quart cooker. Yes it only holds 7 quart jars, but it holds a lot of rye when you use bags.
If you continue on in this hobby, you will probably move away from these pint jars, so I wouldn't sweat the fact that the other 2 don't fit.
It is a quality piece of equipment.
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: hal5000]
#12551069 - 05/12/10 07:12 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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hal5000 said:
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camplo said: You lazy bastard. First of all whyyyyy are you using pint jars when there are quart jars...Must be making cakes...pfff.... Theres no way you have to have 40 jars. You just want 40 jars. Don't mix up your wants and needs. And on top of that you're saying you aren't willing to do what it takes to get what you want? What? If you haven't removed the lifter from the bottom or tried laying the top few jars on their sides, which isn't necessarily recommended, then you are screwed.
This post is all sorts of wrong.
By the way, enjoy your new presto, I got the same one. Its sweet isn't it.
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Lazy bastard? hahah You clearly have a math learning disability because if you didnt you would see how incredibly asinine that statement was camplo. If you were to use Quart jars you would actually be doing MORE work than if you used pint jars. Let me break it down for you.
23 quart presto fits at maximum, 7 quart jars. 1 quart=946.35 cubic centimeters 946.35 x 7 =6624.45 cubic centimeters
whereas
23 quart presto fits at maximum, 20 pint jars 1 pint = 473.176 cubic centimeters 473.176 x 20 = 9463.52 cubic centimeters
now camplo if you grab a calculator and subtract 6624.45 from 9463.52 your left with 2839.07 cubic centimeters or 3.00001178 quarts. Thats 3 quarts LESS spawn per full pressure cooker load. Next time I want completely false information from a pretentious asshole Ill be sure to PM you.
Look im just looking for some good friendly information, there is no need to call people lasy bastards nor is there any reason to talk down to people. The shroomery wasnt founded on that, it was founded on friendly exchanges of advise and information.
Why must you take things so personally! If someone called me a "Lazy bastard", I'd LOL! Camplo seemed lighthearted and pretty damn informative if you ask me. You're response was Unwarranted and shortsighted. Yes, we know you know how to use a calculator. (Please don't take MY RESPONSE "Personally".
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: anonjon]
#12551125 - 05/12/10 07:20 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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When I use bags I can fit 4 bags @ 5 quarts a piece.
 
One thing you want to be sure of when and if you do this is to position the bags as to not be in the way of the inter locking assembly and vent pipe.


Almost forgot. Get as much air out of bags before you and as you seal them.
Edited by LiquidMyce (05/12/10 07:24 PM)
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: camplo]
#12551158 - 05/12/10 07:25 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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camplo said: You lazy bastard. First of all whyyyyy are you using pint jars when there are quart jars...Must be making cakes...pfff.... Theres no way you have to have 40 jars. You just want 40 jars. Don't mix up your wants and needs. And on top of that you're saying you aren't willing to do what it takes to get what you want? What? If you haven't removed the lifter from the bottom or tried laying the top few jars on their sides, which isn't necessarily recommended, then you are screwed.
This post is all sorts of wrong.
By the way, enjoy your new presto, I got the same one. Its sweet isn't it.
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: hal5000]
#12551249 - 05/12/10 07:38 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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hal5000 said:
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camplo said: You lazy bastard. First of all whyyyyy are you using pint jars when there are quart jars...Must be making cakes...pfff.... Theres no way you have to have 40 jars. You just want 40 jars. Don't mix up your wants and needs. And on top of that you're saying you aren't willing to do what it takes to get what you want? What? If you haven't removed the lifter from the bottom or tried laying the top few jars on their sides, which isn't necessarily recommended, then you are screwed.
This post is all sorts of wrong.
By the way, enjoy your new presto, I got the same one. Its sweet isn't it.
Super ->
Lazy bastard? hahah You clearly have a math learning disability because if you didnt you would see how incredibly asinine that statement was camplo. If you were to use Quart jars you would actually be doing MORE work than if you used pint jars. Let me break it down for you.
23 quart presto fits at maximum, 7 quart jars. 1 quart=946.35 cubic centimeters 946.35 x 7 =6624.45 cubic centimeters
whereas
23 quart presto fits at maximum, 20 pint jars 1 pint = 473.176 cubic centimeters 473.176 x 20 = 9463.52 cubic centimeters
now camplo if you grab a calculator and subtract 6624.45 from 9463.52 your left with 2839.07 cubic centimeters or 3.00001178 quarts. Thats 3 quarts LESS spawn per full pressure cooker load. Next time I want completely false information from a pretentious asshole Ill be sure to PM you.
Look im just looking for some good friendly information, there is no need to call people lasy bastards nor is there any reason to talk down to people. The shroomery wasnt founded on that, it was founded on friendly exchanges of advise and information.
You can fit 10 quart jars in the 23 quart PC.Seven standing up,and three on their sides ontop of the others.
If you fill 10 one quart jars 3/4 of the way that that is = to 7.5 quarts.If you fill 20 pint jars 3/4 of the way that is = to 15 pints = to 7.5 quarts.....so it's the same amount of work either way.
We don't fill grain jars 100% of the way,only 2/3 to 3/4 of the way.Even PF jars aren't filled all the way,there is a layer of verm at the top of the jar....so your math,while on one hand is right...is wrong because of the jars not being filled 100% of the way.
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: hamloaf]
#12551460 - 05/12/10 08:03 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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hamloaf said: When I use bags I can fit 4 bags @ 5 quarts a piece.
 
One thing you want to be sure of when and if you do this is to position the bags as to not be in the way of the inter locking assembly and vent pipe.


Almost forgot. Get as much air out of bags before you and as you seal them.

Wow, Thanks that really is some great advice. I think I will try my hand at jars for a bit and then when I feel myself ready, graduate to bags. Besides I can allways modify my old jars and jar lids to be LC jars... or so thats the plan anyway
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: hal5000]
#12551534 - 05/12/10 08:11 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have the same PC and I run 10 qt jars at a time with the top three on their sides=works great. Despite the numbers I think it would be more efficient to run your PC twice with qt jars than fill all those pint jars up--just me tho. That's a lot more filling time, shaking time, washing lids time, etc.
Anyway, enjoy the new PC.
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: Dharmatripper]
#12551617 - 05/12/10 08:21 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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You can swap in one half gallon jar in the 10-qt configuration, it's like a bonus quart.
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: Doc_T]
#12551685 - 05/12/10 08:29 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks T. Is colonization time quite a bit slower in the halfer? I've never used em. I'm not sure I'd want 9 colonized qt jars and one half colonized halfer to wait on.
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: Dharmatripper]
#12551697 - 05/12/10 08:31 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I use a half gallon to make a 6qt tub,whenever it's ready.
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Mad Hatter 2010 said: We don't fill grain jars 100% of the way,only 2/3 to 3/4 of the way.
Who is this "we" you speak of?
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: hamloaf]
#12552776 - 05/12/10 11:50 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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The masses.Most people fill their quart jars between 2/3's and 3/4's of the way in order to leave room to properly shake/distribute the grains.
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: hamloaf]
#12552778 - 05/12/10 11:51 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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use tetris and the 2% rule. you can fit em
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: rackem] 1
#12562682 - 05/14/10 03:42 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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10 one quart wide mouth jars in a 23 quart presto PC...it says it can only fit 7 one quart jars but where there is a will there is a way.
*EDIT* Forgot to add the pic
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7 quarts for canning food, 10 for spawn jars. Or four half gallons.
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: Doc_T]
#12562717 - 05/14/10 03:47 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nvm, Already covered.
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: teknix]
#12563141 - 05/14/10 05:01 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mad Hatter 2010 said: The masses.Most people fill their quart jars between 2/3's and 3/4's of the way in order to leave room to properly shake/distribute the grains.
Give all the idiots a brand new religion, huh. Thankfully I am a free thinker who does not follow the masses..

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Mad Hatter 2010 said: 10 one quart wide mouth jars in a 23 quart presto PC...it says it can only fit 7 one quart jars but where there is a will there is a way.
*EDIT* Forgot to add the pic

Can see your shoes. lol You will need to place a canning rack between those jars.

This point has been made already in this thread several times. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12549957#12549957 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12550453#12550453 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12551249#12551249 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12551534#12551534
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: hamloaf]
#12563389 - 05/14/10 05:42 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hamloaf...thanks for the tip on the canning rack...I'll try that.
As far as the rest of your post...don't take it so personal man...I even stated "as a general guideline" in another thread similar to this one...maybe I should have said that here too...
By all means do what you want to do...I don't hate nor do I discriminate...nothing but love from me...unless you're of age and live at home and don't get off your ass and take responsibility,or you try and say that you received 3rd degree burns from a PC blowing up and didn't go to the hospital,and then post pics of not even what looks like 1st degree burns but love marks from some chick,or trying to pop a zit lol!
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Mad Hatter 2010 said: By all means do what you want to do...I don't hate nor do I discriminate...nothing but love from me...unless you're of age and live at home and don't get off your ass and take responsibility,or you try and say that you received 3rd degree burns from a PC blowing up and didn't go to the hospital,and then post pics of not even what looks like 1st degree burns but love marks from some chick,or trying to pop a zit lol!
HA! Im glad Im not the only one that got some enjoyment out of the whole "3rd Degree burns" post. If those are 3rd degree burns then I get compound fractures and 3 inch deep lacerations every day at work 
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hamloaf said: You will need to place the canning rack between those jars.
do you use a 2 canning racks; one on the bottom and one between the 7/3?
Thank you everyone for the advice, I really appreciate it
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: hamloaf]
#12564091 - 05/14/10 07:53 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mad Hatter 2010 said: We don't fill grain jars 100% of the way,only 2/3 to 3/4 of the way.
Who is this "we" you speak of?

Nice. Now, let's see a video of you breaking those up.
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: tajmahal420]
#12565408 - 05/15/10 12:52 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have this same pressure cooker. I normally only do 8 but is it ok for the jars to touch the sides of the PC?
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: hal5000]
#12565490 - 05/15/10 01:16 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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hal5000 said: I just recived my Presto 23 quart pressure cooker and though I havent used it yet seem to think its going to be a great cooker. However! On the box it says you can fit 20 pint jars but no matter how many times I try to fit these suposid 20 jars I can only fit 18. This may seem a bit OCD but I have already done all the calculations and I need exactly 40 jars. I refuse to pressure cook 4 bloody jars in a 23 quart PC, can someone please help me fit all 20? Thanks everyone!
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: tajmahal420]
#12565645 - 05/15/10 02:03 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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hamloaf said:
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Mad Hatter 2010 said: We don't fill grain jars 100% of the way,only 2/3 to 3/4 of the way.
Who is this "we" you speak of?

Nice. Now, let's see a video of you breaking those up.
Have no problems breaking my spawn jars up. A couple of whacks on an unused brick of coir, 12, tops and BOOM. Broken up grain spawn on WBS. Been thinking of using the spoon method as to a more gentle way of getting grain spawn out of jars this full so I will only have to shake @ 20-30 percent colonization. So mycelium will not have to battered twice. 
You want to see a video of grain spawn jars that full being broke up? Fill your next batch of jars that full with your grains and inoculate. When your grain spawn jars reach 100% colonization. Record your self breaking up your own grain spawn jars that full.
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: moonwalker1]
#12565669 - 05/15/10 02:13 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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moonwalker1 said: I have this same pressure cooker. I normally only do 8 but is it ok for the jars to touch the sides of the PC?
Been there ~ done that.

It works.
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Mad Hatter 2010 said: Hamloaf...thanks for the tip on the canning rack...I'll try that.
As far as the rest of your post...don't take it so personal man...I even stated "as a general guideline" in another thread similar to this one...maybe I should have said that here too...
By all means do what you want to do...I don't hate nor do I discriminate...nothing but love from me...unless you're of age and live at home and don't get off your ass and take responsibility,or you try and say that you received 3rd degree burns from a PC blowing up and didn't go to the hospital,and then post pics of not even what looks like 1st degree burns but love marks from some chick,or trying to pop a zit lol!
Nothing personal. Just stating the facts.
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Re: Presto 23 quart pressure cooker... [Re: hal5000]
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I am beggining to speculate the whole "mycelium being batter" theory, as the myc seems to perform better in and LC with a magnetic stirRer than it does normally. Does this make sense? I know I'm not a Pro, but I'm pretty adept at this. Just Let me Know LMK!
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