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Pick?
    #12548796 - 05/12/10 01:31 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Well, I began my first fruiting stages just 4 days ago. So far none of my cakes have shown any results other than one. But I'll tell ya what, this baby has exploded! In just 4 days it has reached these stages:


Day 2:




Day 3:



Day 4(Taken today, just a few minutes ago):




Being as this is my first ever shroomie, I want to be sure I'm not fuckin anything up. Is this baby ready to be picked?


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Re: Pick? [Re: ph34r]
    #12548841 - 05/12/10 01:39 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yes.

Grab it near the base, and gently pull and twist.

Some growers recommend picking mushrooms just before the veil tears to prevent spores from being dropped in the fruiting chamber.

Enjoy. :awesomenod:

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Re: Pick? [Re: ph34r]
    #12548845 - 05/12/10 01:39 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Those guys are pretty phat. They will get bigger, but not much more potency. It's really personal preference.

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Re: Pick? [Re: ph34r]
    #12548851 - 05/12/10 01:40 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Pick em but dry them immediately to keep em potent


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Re: Pick? [Re: audiophoenix]
    #12548857 - 05/12/10 01:41 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the replies everyone





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Pick em but dry them immediately to keep em potent





Is there any specific method that you have found works best for drying?





Edit: also, to be clear, BOTH shrooms are ready to be picked correct?

DoubleEdit: I've also heard that cutting the base of the shroom is safer than just pulling it out. Is there some truth to this, or is it more or less personal preference?

Thanks for the fast replies shroomery :super:


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Re: Pick? [Re: ph34r]
    #12548880 - 05/12/10 01:45 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yep, both.

Fan dry them until they're pretty much dry (they may still a bit flexible, the fan can only take them so far).

Then put them in a container with desiccant to dry completely.

Do a search for more details.

Edit:  I would just twist and gently pull.  You want the whole thing to come off.

If you cut, the mycelium left behind may revert from mushroom form, but it also may rot.  Best not to take the chance.

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Re: Pick? [Re: Elementium]
    #12548919 - 05/12/10 01:51 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Norom said:
Yep, both.

Fan dry them until they're pretty much dry (they may still a bit flexible, the fan can only take them so far).

Then put them in a container with desiccant to dry completely.

Do a search for more details.

Edit:  I would just twist and gently pull.  You want the whole thing to come off.

If you cut, the mycelium left behind may revert from mushroom form, but it also my rot.  Best not to take the chance.




desiccant is cheap, You can pick it up at home depot for like 4 bucks. Get the stuff called damp-rid it's used to dry out moldy areas of your house and you can get a refill pack that just has flakes of drying agent in it. Put that in a tupperware container and then place the mushrooms on some sort or rack above the desiccant so it does not touch it. Make sure to fan dry them first though.


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Re: Pick? [Re: audiophoenix]
    #12551818 - 05/12/10 08:53 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Well, I went ahead and picked them. I have them drying out using a fan from a PC power supply. I have some Ice-Melter, will that be okay to use to keep them dry in a container?



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omnomnom :bigjoint:


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Re: Pick? [Re: ph34r]
    #12551925 - 05/12/10 09:15 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Well, I went ahead and picked them. I have them drying out using a fan from a PC power supply. I have some Ice-Melter, will that be okay to use to keep them dry in a container?



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omnomnom :bigjoint:




Decent fruits there for a first.

Yes ice melter has been used before just make sure that they eventually become dry enough to basically crush into a powder.

Good job! hopefully you get some more though.


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Re: Pick? [Re: audiophoenix]
    #12551942 - 05/12/10 09:18 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yea, nice dense fruits :awesomenod:


very pretty


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Re: Pick? [Re: Pscientist]
    #12551982 - 05/12/10 09:25 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

If I want to make a sporeprint with either of these, I'll have to do it before drying right?


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Re: Pick? [Re: ph34r]
    #12552309 - 05/12/10 10:20 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

probably too late, your sporeprint might be dirty if you take it now.. you wanna cut the cap and start printing immediately after you pick the fruit, but IDK it might give you clean prints , depending on how you handled and where you stored the mushroom so far..


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Re: Pick? [Re: audiophoenix]
    #12561541 - 05/14/10 12:07 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Yes ice melter has been used before just make sure that they eventually become dry enough to basically crush into a powder.

Good job! hopefully you get some more though.





hmm, after closer inspection I'm not so sure this ice-melter is the right kind to use.









"non-hygroscopic, will not attract moisture". Does this mean it won't work for the purpose I need it for?


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Re: Pick? [Re: ph34r]
    #12561557 - 05/14/10 12:11 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

You can use dry white rice as a desiccant.

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Re: Pick? [Re: tajmahal420]
    #12561579 - 05/14/10 12:16 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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You can use dry white rice as a desiccant.





hmm, this could be quite useful if I cant use that ice melter. Thanks!

Will I still need to seperate the rice from the mushrooms via some sort of rack?


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Re: Pick? [Re: tajmahal420]
    #12561609 - 05/14/10 12:22 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Does rice always work? Or maybe the better question is how well does it work?


Also, man those look like they grew really quick. I have some invitro pins that are now in the FC and they aren't growing that fast. I wonder if I'm not getting enough FAE or if I'm misting to heavily.

Grow in signature.

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Re: Pick? [Re: ph34r]
    #12561615 - 05/14/10 12:24 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Rice will kill you..

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Re: Pick? [Re: Base Icks]
    #12561626 - 05/14/10 12:26 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Sure it works, to an extent, a lot of people put a few grains of rice in their salt shakers to absorb any ambient humidity, to keep their salt from clumping.  You should fan dry first of course.  And throw away the rice when finished.

You can put them right on the rice, no screen necessary.

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Re: Pick? [Re: tajmahal420]
    #12561648 - 05/14/10 12:32 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

You need to use silica cat litter or epson salt or damp rid to dry it.
Buy a food dehydrator. All that other stuff is ghetto as hell.
Seriously get a food dehydrator now. NOW. Stop fucking around with salt. I did it forever and if my dehydrator broke down now I would just toss out shroom rather than drying them with salt.
Anyway good luck peace.


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Re: Pick? [Re: Grumpyorc]
    #12561730 - 05/14/10 12:51 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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You need to use silica cat litter or epson salt or damp rid to dry it.
Buy a food dehydrator. All that other stuff is ghetto as hell.
Seriously get a food dehydrator now. NOW. Stop fucking around with salt. I did it forever and if my dehydrator broke down now I would just toss out shroom rather than drying them with salt.
Anyway good luck peace.





Care to recommend a specific food dehydrator? I'll definitely look into it, thanks for the tip :super:



EDIT: Also, can someone confirm/deny the usage of that ice melter? You think it will work?


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Re: Pick? [Re: ph34r]
    #12562044 - 05/14/10 01:50 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Heres mine
http://www.dehydratorbook.com/salton-dehydrator-dh100a.html
It gets em cracker dry in about 5 hours. Then I just put them in an airtight container with a little bowl of epsom salt that has been baked for 2 hours at 450 degrees. I store them for a long time and have never had any problems.


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Re: Pick? [Re: Grumpyorc]
    #12565708 - 05/15/10 02:24 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

The only rice I have available right now is this Brown Rice I had laying around. Will this be acceptable for drying instead of white rice?




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    #12565763 - 05/15/10 02:48 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I imagine rice would suck balls for drying


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Re: Pick? [Re: Grumpyorc]
    #12565876 - 05/15/10 03:30 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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I imagine rice would suck balls for drying



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If you want cheapest way, go take the desiccant out of the purses from your local clothing store, most any leather product has it. Rice would be shit IMO.

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Re: Pick? [Re: teknix]
    #12566136 - 05/15/10 06:29 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

This is what I use:

If cost is a concern, I'd go with a small space heater. Set it on low-medium (never) high. Place your rack about 6 inches in front of it, at an angle. 24 hours and done. Kinda quick and very easy. I used this method in the past for about a year. Never burnt any or lost potency or anything. Hope that helped! :peace:


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Re: Pick? [Re: Sammy Agar]
    #12566379 - 05/15/10 08:25 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

u can get silica beads with color indicating beads mixed in. it cost me about $12 for 5lbs at pat catans, but you can get them at micheals, or just about any craft store. they are used officially to dry flowers.
their cool because the color changes from blue to pink, letting you know its getting saturated. then you throw the silica in the oven, dry it out, and its good as new.

drierite is good too, but i couldnt find any locally, i had to get it online. $25 for 5lbs or somewhere close to that. it also comes in the color indicating form, and can be regenerated. if you want drierite, get it straight from the company, middlemen from what ive seen charge double (or more) for the same thing.

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    #12569795 - 05/15/10 09:36 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

No need to worry about drying those 2 anymore, omnomnomnomnom :vaped:



They both weighed out to 4.2g total, just ate em all :]. See you guys on the other side


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Re: Pick? [Re: ph34r]
    #12570021 - 05/15/10 10:24 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I'm using a lamp + desiccant tube + fan, all in a closet.  You can see the desiccant tube in the back left of the second picture.  Takes 2 or 3 days for cracker dry, depending on the size of the fruit.



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Re: Pick? [Re: Moetsukiru]
    #12570997 - 05/16/10 01:24 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Have fun! Let us know how they were.:mushroom2:


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Re: Pick? [Re: Sammy Agar]
    #12572692 - 05/16/10 12:02 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

not nearly as potent as I had hoped :sad:


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Re: Pick? [Re: ph34r]
    #12572745 - 05/16/10 12:11 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

4.2g wet is probably less than .5g dry and a standard dose is 3g dry. Potency probably isn't an issue...

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Re: Pick? [Re: Phallus]
    #12572764 - 05/16/10 12:15 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I usually take at least 25 or 30g, if I am going to take them fresh... which I like more than dry :shroomin:


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    #12573533 - 05/16/10 02:34 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

lol they weighed much much more than 4g wet... I weighed them dry obviously.


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Re: Pick? [Re: ph34r]
    #12573538 - 05/16/10 02:36 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

:lol: well  yous said you were stoppping drying them , insinuated they were fresh


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