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hey about agar
    #12544979 - 05/11/10 06:56 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

will it burn if i cook with grain?

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Re: hey about agar [Re: JustinTime]
    #12544987 - 05/11/10 06:57 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

agar in grains :thumbdown:

You want the grains NOT to be sticky. it would be a utter waste of agar.

Just stick with he standard teks when it comes to grains throw a pinch of gypsum in the soaking water for each jar

Edited by Shea25 (05/11/10 07:00 PM)

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Re: hey about agar [Re: JustinTime]
    #12545000 - 05/11/10 07:00 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

i dont mean in the grain. i mean cook in other jar same time for hour. this ok?

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Re: hey about agar [Re: JustinTime]
    #12545013 - 05/11/10 07:03 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yes you can PC agar but usually only for 30-40 minutes

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Re: hey about agar [Re: JustinTime]
    #12545023 - 05/11/10 07:05 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

then can i do it all 30 minute

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Re: hey about agar [Re: JustinTime]
    #12545029 - 05/11/10 07:07 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

No grains should be done for 90 minutes

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Re: hey about agar [Re: JustinTime]
    #12545032 - 05/11/10 07:08 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

No.  That simple.  PC grains for 90 minutes.  Agar 30-40, as mentioned.

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Re: hey about agar [Re: tajmahal420]
    #12545046 - 05/11/10 07:10 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

ok i was thinking about cook it 30 min and then take out agar and cook the rest.

this thing to big for just 1 agar

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Re: hey about agar [Re: JustinTime]
    #12545049 - 05/11/10 07:11 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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this thing to big for just 1 agar




Keep your eyes open for a cheap 6qt.


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Re: hey about agar [Re: JustinTime]
    #12545055 - 05/11/10 07:12 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

The agar should cool down in the Pc for 2 hours beforing taking out. Just Pc the agar wait the 2 hours then start the grains its that simple

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Re: hey about agar [Re: tajmahal420]
    #12545071 - 05/11/10 07:15 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Shea25 said:
Yes you can PC agar but usually only for 30-40 minutes



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No.  That simple.  PC grains for 90 minutes.  Agar 30-40, as mentioned.



Uh dudes.
Agar is only supposed to be sterilized for 20-30 minutes, 30 minutes tops.

http://www.shroomery.org/5243/What-are-some-good-agar-media-recipes
http://www.shroomery.org/9393/FastFreds-Media-Cookbook

All agar medium needs to be sterilized.


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Re: hey about agar [Re: hamloaf]
    #12545082 - 05/11/10 07:17 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

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Yes you can PC agar but usually only for 30-40 minutes



Quote:

tajmahal420 said:
No.  That simple.  PC grains for 90 minutes.  Agar 30-40, as mentioned.



Uh dudes.
Agar is only supposed to be sterilized for 20-30 minutes, 30 minutes tops.

http://www.shroomery.org/5243/What-are-some-good-agar-media-recipes
http://www.shroomery.org/9393/FastFreds-Media-Cookbook

All agar medium needs to be sterilized.





Hamloaf Maybe you should see this before reaching your conclusions, don't know why you think 30 minutes tops

http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Agar-Petri-Dishes

Edited by Shea25 (05/11/10 07:19 PM)

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Re: hey about agar [Re: Shea25]
    #12545092 - 05/11/10 07:19 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Shea25 said:
Quote:

hamloaf said:
Quote:

Shea25 said:
Yes you can PC agar but usually only for 30-40 minutes



Quote:

tajmahal420 said:
No.  That simple.  PC grains for 90 minutes.  Agar 30-40, as mentioned.



Uh dudes.
Agar is only supposed to be sterilized for 20-30 minutes, 30 minutes tops.

http://www.shroomery.org/5243/What-are-some-good-agar-media-recipes
http://www.shroomery.org/9393/FastFreds-Media-Cookbook

All agar medium needs to be sterilized.





Hamloaf Maybe you should see this before coming to your conclusions, don't know why you think 30 minutes tops

http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Agar-Petri-Dishes



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Re: hey about agar [Re: JustinTime]
    #12545098 - 05/11/10 07:19 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

ok thank guys


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Re: hey about agar [Re: tajmahal420]
    #12545187 - 05/11/10 07:33 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

These recipes are designed for agar maintenance of Psilocybe , but also other  mushroom species.
All media have a near-neutral pH and should be sterilized for twenty to thirty minutes at 15 psi pressure.
This information is here in the shroomery archives
http://www.shroomery.org/5243/What-are-some-good-agar-media-recipes

Maybe you 2 should familiarize yourselves with this.
http://www.shroomery.org/9393/FastFreds-Media-Cookbook

No offense to RR.
He is great but RR is not the only guy out there. :rolleyes:


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Re: hey about agar [Re: hamloaf]
    #12545202 - 05/11/10 07:36 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I have done enough agar work to know, and PC'ing 30-40 minutes has not done me wrong. Maybe there is something you don't get, Tell me perosnally have you PC'd agar for 30-40 minutes and have had problems or are you only basing it off other info you have read ??

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Re: hey about agar [Re: hamloaf]
    #12545215 - 05/11/10 07:38 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

So, you're saying that an extra 10 minutes in the PC is bad for agar?

I disagree.

How long you sterilize agar has nothing to do with what you're transferring to it.  It needs to be sterile, that's the point here, and longer sterilization (without going overboard) = more likely the agar is sterile.

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Re: hey about agar [Re: tajmahal420]
    #12545234 - 05/11/10 07:41 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

My agar dealers instructions say 45 mins on the website so i does that.

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Re: hey about agar [Re: hamloaf]
    #12545245 - 05/11/10 07:44 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Hamloaf I really don't see why your telling people not to go over 30 minutes

Please explain in detail why and your own experiences

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Re: hey about agar [Re: Shea25]
    #12545322 - 05/11/10 07:54 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

20 mins has worked for me thus far. One thing they don't tell you is how much LME agar smells like boiling urine when you mix it with how water.


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