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Phanodude
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I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!??
#12537033 - 05/10/10 01:41 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Title here.
I'd like to put it to bulk but i'm not sure i've got enough spawn, so with what i've got, where should i go? I need experienced shroomers!
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: Phanodude]
#12537052 - 05/10/10 01:44 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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You could spawn that, make a little tub. Or mix w/ wet verm and then case it with verm or 50/50 or something. And/or do a brain to brain expansion, and get more spawn.
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Edited by Doc_T (05/10/10 01:51 PM)
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: Doc_T]
#12537067 - 05/10/10 01:47 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't understand how he can use his brain to increase his spawn.
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: ninja cat 09]
#12537072 - 05/10/10 01:48 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I can 
Ya you can spawn to bulk, just dont let your spawn ratio get too large. Try spawning to 12 half pint jars o hpoo in a mini tub.
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: ninja cat 09]
#12537082 - 05/10/10 01:49 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: Doc_T]
#12537087 - 05/10/10 01:49 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Doc_T said: You could spawn that, make a little tub. Or mix w/ wet verm and then case it with verm or 50/50 or something. And/or do a grain to grain expansion, and get more spawn.
Fixed and +1
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: Mad Hatter 2010]
#12537169 - 05/10/10 02:02 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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What generation are those jars? As long as you haven't grain to grained with them before I'd do that 1:5 with rye berries.
1 cup per pint of rye in a bucket Add some coffee/water and a pinch of gypsum Let sit 24-48 hours Boil for 5-10 mins Let cool/dry PC
EDIT: I do not take credit for that recipe, found it browsing shroomery
Edited by MoreChellasPlease (05/10/10 02:03 PM)
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: Phanodude]
#12537201 - 05/10/10 02:06 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Spawn to bulk substrate @ a 1:2, spawn to bulk substrate ratio (coir/verm, cowpoo/straw, horsepoo/straw, or straight horse poo) 4 half pints is not that much. Enough to make a few trays this size

or 1 this size.

I would go with several small trays, play the odds against contaminations. Stack the numbers in your favor a little bit by doing several small trays. Do not use aluminum trays if can be avoided as well. They cause your mycelium to metabolize. The aluminum trays are just for size comparison example.
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Phanodude
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: hamloaf]
#12539102 - 05/10/10 06:58 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well my friends dad made some mushroom compost (said it was too nutrient rich for plants???) but we don't know what it's made out of. Can we just pasturize that without any straw? I'm imagining if you can just add spawn to sublicious compost and fruit that after it's fully colonized, we should be able to do something similiar.
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: Phanodude]
#12539371 - 05/10/10 07:35 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Any Ideas?
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: Phanodude]
#12539413 - 05/10/10 07:41 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: Phanodude]
#12539434 - 05/10/10 07:45 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's all about ratio at this point. You have 4 half pints if colonized bird seed. At a 1:4 spawn to bulk substrate ratio, you would need 8 pints of substrate, giving you a total of 6 quarts after spawning. Not a lot, as far as bulk subs go.
Personally, if the 4 half pints of WBS was all I had, I'd go with as big a spawn ratio as I would be comfortable with. I don't go over 1:4, because I like the speed of colonization, without too much worry of contamination.
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: tajmahal420]
#12539691 - 05/10/10 08:28 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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That sounds reasonable, now the question is will this compost my friends dad said was "too nutrient rich for plants" in reference to mary-wanna be viable for the shroomage?
He actually called it "mushroom compost" for that reason and it was made like 2 years ago and been sitting under tarps with wood and shit all over it in his backyard.
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: Phanodude]
#12539781 - 05/10/10 08:42 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Don't mess with it, my recommendation. If that's all the spawn you have, don't risk spawning it to a compost when you have no idea of it's perfomance.
Get some horse manure, you're never far from horses, no matter where you are.
Edited by tajmahal420 (05/10/10 08:43 PM)
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: tajmahal420]
#12539792 - 05/10/10 08:44 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Or coir. Or just case the grains w/MGMC, it works better than you'd think.
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: Doc_T]
#12539852 - 05/10/10 08:55 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: Or coir. Or just case the grains w/MGMC, it works better than you'd think.
That too. I never think of coir because I never use it. I guess you could say I have shit for brains when it comes to bulk substrates.
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: Phanodude]
#12544947 - 05/11/10 06:52 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Phanodude said: "mushroom compost" for that reason and it was made like 2 years ago and been sitting under tarps with wood and shit all over it in his backyard.
Mushroom compost is used mushroom substrates usually from large commercial edible grows. The composting process takes 2 years. Mushroom compost is used, and is one of my favorite growing mediums for growing another kind of plant(s). 
Coir is great.

http://www.shroomery.org/10858/How-to-do-Coir http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12544641#12544641
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Phanodude
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: hamloaf]
#12554286 - 05/13/10 09:22 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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So i can use just straight coconut coir to spawn it? We've got cow fields/horse fields all over here, can i just use straight dookie-doo pasturized then mixed in with the spawn?
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Phanodude
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: Phanodude]
#12554786 - 05/13/10 11:22 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Any ideas? to /\/\/\/\/\/\/\ question?
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Re: I've got 4xHalf Pints of WBS Fully Colonized! Now what?!?? [Re: Phanodude]
#12554844 - 05/13/10 11:33 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Use what you can and have on hand. If you do it right, expect results. Nothing is better than free shit amirite?
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