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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: Coaster]
    #12510426 - 05/05/10 12:19 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

How do you know what those statistics include here ill post the whole artical.


SAN DIEGO – Use of methamphetamine in San Diego County is down, but more people are dying from using it, according to a report from the county's Methamphetamine Strike Force.

According to the report, called the 2008 Meth Report Card, five indicators of meth usage were lower in 2007 than in 2006:

The number of admissions for treatment of meth usage, down 3 percent.

Emergency-room examinations in which the presence of meth was noted in patients being treated, down 29 percent.

Meth-related arrests, down 25 percent.

Law enforcement seizures of meth, down 40 percent.

The number of arrestees testing positive for meth, down 7 percent for adults, 3 percent for juveniles.

On the other hand, the number of deaths related to meth use rose, from 174 in 2006 to 184 in 2007, according to the report card.

Also, the number of children rescued from meth-infested homes was nearly unchanged, 375 in 2007, one more than the previous year.
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Im also an emt and volunteer for the chicago fire department if you would like I could show you some effects of meth use. Oh wait I cant provide a link so I must being lying


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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: P-O]
    #12510434 - 05/05/10 12:21 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

PostiveOutlook said:
im convinced...


Im gonna go buy a couple grams of meth :borat:


thanks :scott:



:lolsy:

You can't deny the logic behind it :strokebeard2:


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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: Coaster]
    #12510438 - 05/05/10 12:22 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Coaster said:
Quote:

trekie said:
In San Diego County (California) alone;the number of deaths related to meth use rose, from 174 in 2006 to 184 in 2007.

seems to me meth is far more deadly then joining the us military.




those statistics include people who take meth and ALCOHOL then die
it also includes babies who die from fetal exposure and premature delivery
and i bet it also includes voilent crimes related to meth were there is a victim and an aggressor
why dont u use some real statistics





'Real' statistics defined as those that support my dislike of the military (or like of meth).

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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: P-O]
    #12510440 - 05/05/10 12:22 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

im yet to try meth but i know i would love it, it seems more fun and less toxic than its bastard child mephedrone

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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: druqs]
    #12510453 - 05/05/10 12:25 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

trekie said:
Im also an emt and volunteer for the chicago fire department if you would like I could show you some effects of meth use. Oh wait I cant provide a link so I must being lying



okay here let me use ur fail legit logic

NAIL GUNS ARE DANGEROUS NOBODY SHOULD USE THEM HERE IS MY PROOF





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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: Coaster]
    #12510465 - 05/05/10 12:28 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Ahh, I get it - just because something is dangerous shouldn't preclude us from doing it.

Cool, Im gonna go join the military now.

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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: Coaster]
    #12510476 - 05/05/10 12:30 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for posting your English 098 paper on how to write a logical argument essay.

I hope your professor didn't give you more than a C- on it.


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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: Coaster] * 2
    #12510485 - 05/05/10 12:31 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

You cant take when people prove you wrong so you make some stupid outlandish statement.

Lets see here I bet if we take a sampling of people who did meth for 5 years and a different group that did a 5 year stint in the us military. We see where there lives are I can guarantee  you which group will do better.

Sure there are some that suffer from ptsd and unemployment and a slightly higher suicide rate but that's not the norm.


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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: ShockValue]
    #12510489 - 05/05/10 12:32 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i bought a sweet nail gun last summer.  used it to shingle my roof :borat:

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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: Coaster]
    #12510491 - 05/05/10 12:32 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

RE: the tear gas training.

those fuckers video taped this drill during my sisters basic training (i guess this is common practice now).  how sickening is that?  after the tear gas drill, they had to sleep outside in a field on the ground.


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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: yogabunny]
    #12510501 - 05/05/10 12:34 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I still have my tape of my BCT. Down in fort benning they put a tree  by the door of the tear gas room we were told to take 3 steps forward and then go left. Those that didnt go left ran face first into a tree. Attention to detail people


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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: lifeinallday]
    #12510538 - 05/05/10 12:42 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

lifeinallday said:
FORCED TO TAKE DRUGS:
thats right if you are in the air force and you want to fly (not be grounded) you MUST take amphetamines on long missions




^^^^and if your talking about provigil this is obviously not kamakazi meth




clearly talking about dextroamphetamines


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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: Neuron]
    #12510545 - 05/05/10 12:44 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

meth isn't so much different...i bet the effects are the same you just need smaller doses of meth to do the trick


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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: trekie]
    #12510564 - 05/05/10 12:46 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I would never join the military. Define "more hazardous" - that would depend on each person's particular use of meth and what job in the military. Also, which branch

it's all different. just like street meth
it all depends on so many variables

not a very good argument


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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: maerigan] * 2
    #12510824 - 05/05/10 01:37 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

But you forgot to mention the dangers of being a meth head.

1.out in dangerous places alot.
2.with people who will rob you on a regular basis, if not kill you or severely harm you.
3.your family leaves you instead of you leaving your family.
4.your teath fall.
5.you lose alot.
6.the chances of you or your house and family being robbed and or worse.
7.your whole way of thinking is changed to where no one can really help you but yourself.
i8.m sure meth addicts have committed suicide more than army soldiers.
9.WELL over half of people who get hooked on meth say it ruined there lives, none say it improved them or got them a degree in college.
10.no one becomes a meth addict and comes out a better person, but some soldiers do, so its gotta mean something.

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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: Chowder963]
    #12510843 - 05/05/10 01:41 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Chowder963 said:
But you forgot to mention the dangers of being a meth head.

1.out in dangerous places alot.
2.with people who will rob you on a regular basis, if not kill you or severely harm you.
3.your family leaves you instead of you leaving your family.
4.your teath fall.
5.you lose alot.
6.the chances of you or your house and family being robbed and or worse.
7.your whole way of thinking is changed to where no one can really help you but yourself.
i8.m sure meth addicts have committed suicide more than army soldiers.
9.WELL over half of people who get hooked on meth say it ruined there lives, none say it improved them or got them a degree in college.
10.no one becomes a meth addict and comes out a better person, but some soldiers do, so its gotta mean something.





oooh, nice post.


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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: Chowder963] * 2
    #12510872 - 05/05/10 01:46 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

1.out in dangerous places alot. i live in the ghetto theres no avoiding that, in fact when im tweakin im eeven more paranoid to leave the house

2.with people who will rob you on a regular basis, if not kill you or severely harm you. i never hang out with those people who would

3.your family leaves you instead of you leaving your family.i left them and they keep inviting me to family events but its too far

4.your teath fall.not if u take it orally or IV it or rail it

5.you lose alot.i gained energy

6.the chances of you or your house and family being robbed and or worse.no actually its the same

7.your whole way of thinking is changed to where no one can really help you but yourself.who needs help when u have meth?

8.m sure meth addicts have committed suicide more than army soldiers.look at the statistics

9.WELL over half of people who get hooked on meth say it ruined there
lives, none say it improved them or got them a degree in college.i already have a degree and like 20% of college kids use amps which is super similar to meth

10.no one becomes a meth addict and comes out a better person, but some soldiers do, so its gotta mean something.what doesnt kill you makes you stronger


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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: Cepheus]
    #12510909 - 05/05/10 01:55 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

I'm about to convince you that joining the Military is more hazardous to your health than Crystal Methampethamine




:facepalm:

Your ignorance just keeps growing.

Quote:

Cepheus said:
Yes people who can't control their meth use are problematic, but then that goes for the entire cross section of drug users... anyone who can't keep their shit together & moderate their use of any kind of inebriate is a problem, at least with respect to the greater society as a whole.




Exactly the reason we were trying to convince Coastard to not do meth
that child can not control his drug use


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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: niteowl]
    #12510918 - 05/05/10 01:57 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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niteowl said:
Exactly the reason we were trying to convince Coastard to not do meth
that child can not control his drug use





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Re: Coaster's Meth Versus The Shroomery [Re: Coaster]
    #12510932 - 05/05/10 01:59 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

meth probably has a nasty crash and withdrawal.

i think the issue with meth is the ROA. if peeps used it orally and just enough to help them be productive it would be fine. but of course no one will actually do this. if someone wants to do drugs that are considered harmful they should be able to though. in large doses yeah meth is probably kinda bad for you. i think the psychosis is the most fucked up part about amphetamine's. i feel very on edge, short tempered and impatient on a 3 day amp binge. gets pretty bad. i learned to control it though. after a while amphetamine's lose pretty much all the euphoria unless i take a crazy high dose, which then just turns into a night mare...so taking it for the euphoria is worthless. just a little bit (for me 50-60 mg's at most) is fine if i just wanna stay up all night and have a good time.


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