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Moetsukiru
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If you're caught with mushrooms...
#12505401 - 05/04/10 02:11 PM (14 years, 18 days ago) |
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I've never had any issues, of course, but I was wondering since psilocybin is technically what's illegal, could you base the weight of what you're caught with on the actual PSILOCYBIN weight and not the fruit's weight? Or is there any argument for that? I know if you get caught with pot they don't go by the THC weight, they go by actual plant weight, but I was reading the sticky on the cultivation forums for my state and the wording seemed... non-specific.
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Moetsukiru
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Re: If you're caught with mushrooms... [Re: Moetsukiru]
#12505404 - 05/04/10 02:12 PM (14 years, 18 days ago) |
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and to clarify, the reason I'm asking is it could mean the difference between 5 years in jail and 25 years in jail. Or jail vs. probation.
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Re: If you're caught with mushrooms... [Re: Moetsukiru]
#12505515 - 05/04/10 02:31 PM (14 years, 18 days ago) |
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Drug weight is calculated including carrier weight. That's the law.
So if you've got a kilo of baking soda with 10g of coke in it it's the same, legally, as having 1 kilo of pure cocaine.
-FF
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Re: If you're caught with mushrooms... [Re: Moetsukiru]
#12505527 - 05/04/10 02:34 PM (14 years, 18 days ago) |
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According to US law, it doesn't matter how concentrated the controlled substance is. They go by the full weight of the mushrooms.
An ounce of pure psilocybin is just as legal as an ounce of mushrooms. An ounce of psilocybin is 933 doses while an ounce of Psilocybe cubensis is 8 doses.
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Moetsukiru
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So then, logically, the safer way to store your mushrooms is actually to perform an extraction and keep pure psilocybin powder instead of actual mushrooms, yes?
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Re: If you're caught with mushrooms... [Re: Moetsukiru]
#12506976 - 05/04/10 07:25 PM (14 years, 18 days ago) |
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Yes that is safer, but its not the easiest acid/base extraction to do. Too much acid or base will destroy the alkaloids.
Another alternative is a methanol extraction.
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Anonymous #1
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if you're really going to have a lot of mushrooms around have only enough for personal use... if you are actually selling, which puts you at risk for jail time obviously, move your shit quick and don't have huge amounts lying around your house at any one time. the difference between 5 years and 25 years is big, but 5 years can feel like a lifetime too.
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Re: If you're caught with mushrooms... [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12507204 - 05/04/10 08:02 PM (14 years, 18 days ago) |
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To expand, if you have two 10 lbs monotubs that haven't even begun fruiting and get busted, your getting charged with 20 lbs of a controlled substance - they're not gonna pick the coir and mycelium apart to help you out.
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Re: If you're caught with mushrooms... [Re: c1dh3d]
#12507441 - 05/04/10 08:42 PM (14 years, 18 days ago) |
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yah...someone has a quote here about "if you toss a gram of coke into an olympic swimming pool, you know can get busted for a swimming pool weight of coke."
not an exact quote, i assure you, his sig was much cooler.
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Re: If you're caught with mushrooms... [Re: laotzo]
#12507475 - 05/04/10 08:47 PM (14 years, 18 days ago) |
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Id imagine the swimming pool would have to be filled with baking soda or some sort of cut
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Re: If you're caught with mushrooms... [Re: c1dh3d]
#12507742 - 05/04/10 09:30 PM (14 years, 18 days ago) |
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Quote:
To expand, if you have two 10 lbs monotubs that haven't even begun fruiting and get busted, your getting charged with 20 lbs of a controlled substance - they're not gonna pick the coir and mycelium apart to help you out.
No, they can only charge you for material containing a controlled substance. i.e. they can't charge you for the weight of the bag or the container containing the controlled substance. If it's the cakes containing the controlled substance they can't charge you for the perlite they're resting on.
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Re: If you're caught with mushrooms... [Re: fastfred]
#12508053 - 05/04/10 10:23 PM (14 years, 18 days ago) |
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I meant the substrate in the monotub, but yes, good point. The container is paraphernalia, but if they got you on 20 lbs of substrate they'd probably toss the tubs aside.
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Re: If you're caught with mushrooms... [Re: laotzo]
#12510516 - 05/05/10 12:37 PM (14 years, 17 days ago) |
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Quote:
laotzo said: yah...someone has a quote here about "if you toss a gram of coke into an olympic swimming pool, you know can get busted for a swimming pool weight of coke."
not an exact quote, i assure you, his sig was much cooler.
I believe that was Alan.
That would be an interesting one to see in court, or like the van in the first Cheech and Chong movie.
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Re: If you're caught with mushrooms... [Re: numonkei]
#12526869 - 05/08/10 11:44 AM (14 years, 14 days ago) |
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Edited by Anonymous (05/16/10 02:58 PM)
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