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    #1250052 - 01/26/03 12:21 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Aborts [Re: Voodoo]
    #1250098 - 01/26/03 12:52 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I have several theories...but I can't prove them to be true.

Lack of air exchange is one.
Changes in humidity or improper humidity could be another.
Lack of moisture probably is another.
Lack of nutrient's could also be a factor.

These are my opinion...not fact.




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    #1250524 - 01/26/03 03:53 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Aborts [Re: Voodoo]
    #1250567 - 01/26/03 04:17 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Aborts are an interesting phenomena....  the VAST majority of my aborts occur during: 1) the first flush off of any pf cake. 2) while using certain strains... such as pf classic 3) when in proximity to large, more dominating fruitbobdies.

  So although I am by NO means an expert, I believe it is a combination of factors... aborts seem in my opinion at least partially related to the strain of mushroom, but also as road suggested due to lack of nutrients perhaps due to competing fruitbodies. This seems to be backed up by the fact that pf cakes produce a lot of abhorts. Because of the fact that many pins form in a very concentrated area (pf cake), water may be plentiful, however the pf cake may not be able to support so many primordia at once, leading to an excess amount of water in an underdeveloped fruitbody (fatass aborts). I only note this because I have gotten far less aborts on casings than on cakes.... although aborts obviously still occur! The true reason  may still lie undescovered on the chemical level... but this was just a thought to toss around! 
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Re: Aborts [Re: Voodoo]
    #1253315 - 01/27/03 01:13 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Im good on the air exchange. Three times a day religiously. they humidity is what Im worried about. In one tank Iv got a modified bubbler setup and I dont get many aborts. In another tank Im using just perlite. I usually mist it once a day to keep the water droplets on the sides, but Im not sure what the exact humidity is. Any suggestions?



Get a hydrometer.

Cakes...humidity 95% or higher.

Casings...95% or higher til you get pins...then lower the humidity to 85-92%.

good luck!


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Re: Aborts [Re: Voodoo]
    #1253444 - 01/27/03 02:06 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I use the Radio Shack model
Catalog #: 63-1031 Model: 63-1031
humidity as well as temperature!

They are on sale again!!!
$19.99 usually > $31.99
Time to buy some more!!!

Radio Shack online store.
Click here!



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Re: Aborts [Re: Voodoo]
    #1253490 - 01/27/03 02:21 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

the whole unit goes into the terrarium.

they have other units that have just sensors.


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Re: Aborts [Re: Roadkill]
    #1253733 - 01/27/03 03:42 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Road, Everytime i see you post you always post something about radio shack. I'm beginning to think you work for them or something.....No wait , i cant think..goodbye


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Re: Aborts [Re: myco_holic]
    #1254013 - 01/27/03 05:26 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Road, Everytime i see you post you always post something about radio shack. I'm beginning to think you work for them or something.....No wait , i cant think..goodbye



hahahahaaaaa
I don't and never have worked for Radio Shack!!!
lolzzz
I just like there rechargable batteries and hydrometers!


Maybe I should add Team Radio Shack to my list of Sponsors!
lolzzz


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Re: Aborts [Re: Hexum311]
    #1254069 - 01/27/03 05:48 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Hexum..Can you post a link to where you found that info.?


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Re: Aborts [Re: Roadkill]
    #1254841 - 01/28/03 09:24 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Quote:

Road, Everytime i see you post you always post something about radio shack. I'm beginning to think you work for them or something.....No wait , i cant think..goodbye



hahahahaaaaa
I don't and never have worked for Radio Shack!!!
lolzzz
I just like there rechargable batteries and hydrometers!


Maybe I should add Team Radio Shack to my list of Sponsors!
lolzzz





i think it would be real good if everyone, especially people like roadkill whose advice is taken as gold, started spelling hyGrometer correctly. All this talk of hydrometers drives me nuts. I own both devices, they are in no way similar in usage. this can be very confusing to the noobs. i never pick on spelling unless it is directly detrimental to the message being given. this is one of those cases.


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Re: Aborts [Re: motaman]
    #1262690 - 01/30/03 06:01 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Mota.... the info that I gave you was more or less a hodge podge of basic FAQ knowledge, ppls own experience, and my personal experience. I never read anything too specific or detailed on why exactly aborts form.. I just observe, and make conclusions based on my observations.... sorry I could not be more specific bro =(


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Re: Aborts [Re: Hexum311]
    #1262702 - 01/30/03 06:05 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

My opionion on what causes aborts what be that the same network of mycelium is used for a group of shrooms and the dominate one uses of the nutrients or takes over it causing the others grow to stop.


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