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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens vs Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Zen Peddler] * 1
    #1250962 - 01/26/03 05:09 PM (21 years, 6 days ago)

I think all of those bioassay tests are very misleading.

A one gram sample of dried copelandia contains a significant quantity of actual specimens. A one gram sample of Psilocybe cyanescens COMPLEX, contains sometimes one specimen only. If psilocibin content within a SPECIES is a range, that differs from specimen to specimen, the chances of consuming mushrooms at the high end of the range is increased with the quantity of specimens you consume. You can eat a weak Psilocybe cyanescens that makes up a one gram sample, YOU WILL FIND IT VERY DIFFICULT TO DO THE SAME WITH COPELANDIAS.

Gram for gram over time, and I would think Copelandias and P.cyanescens are very comparable, I would even give the edge to the Copelandias. I personally think they are about 2.5+ times as strong as Cubensis from personal " Bioassay" on Average. Have had a 1 gram sample that was stronger then a 3 gram sample of cubensis on several occasions. As the sample size increases weight wise, I tend to think the copelandias get even stronger. Have eaten 2 gram samples of Copelandias that felt like 7+ gram samples of cubensis. Anything over 3 grams dry for the copelandias, and I personally HAVE a VERY DIFFICULT TIME comparing Potencies any more.
I think SIZE of SPECIMEN(quantity of specimens in sample) is EXTREMELY important in comparing potencies of SPECIES to SPECIES. Developemental stage to Developemental stage.

Always remeber the Figures Stated are for MAXIMUM PERCENTAGE. Percentage varies from specimen to specimen.

WHERE ARE YOU GETTING YOUR AVERAGES and MAXIMUMS from Bluemeanie?







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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens vs Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Hamurabi] * 1
    #1253674 - 01/27/03 01:21 PM (21 years, 5 days ago)

According to the Literature P. cyanescens is Stronger then Copelandia species. I would regard the literature with a grain of salt. BOTH mushrooms are of the EXTREMELY POTENT variety.

Let your local climate determine which one you grow, and let yourself be the judge of potency. Start small 1/2 gram and increase accordingly.

As is being determined every day, the Literature is becoming more and more outdated. It appears there has always been some kind of Ego battle between the various Mycologists that study these mushrooms. I think that Battle is contagous, and only SLOWS down the progress that can be made.

I would say the only thing Potency analysis is good for is DETERMINATION of CHEMICAL composition, and the scientific PROOF of the prescence of the Alkaloids for Taxonomic identification and submission into JOURNALS. Other then that SELF EXPERIMENTATION will be your ultimate guide to potency. Just take the basic advice that some people hear think Copelandia is more potent and some thing P. cyanescens is more potent. All agree that they are both more potent then cubensis, and you should TAKE that AGREED upon EXPERIENCE into SERIOUS consideration when INGESTING EITHER SPECIES.

Good luck and Be careful.



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Re: Panaeolus cyanescens vs Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1964831 - 09/30/03 12:48 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Yes I know bluemeanie.  When you live where I live you don't get access to cold weather potent Psilocybes, so you eat what is the best in your environment.

:heart: Copelandias.  I am sure I would love the P. australianas TOO. :grin:

 


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