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 lehder
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 walmart mini green house 
#1248581 - 01/25/03 03:43 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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anyone here using the walmart mini green house? the green ones with clear plastic that zip up in the front...
they are open on the bottom of the unit.. how do seal it up? what do you use etc
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: lehder]
#1248600 - 01/25/03 03:52 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Have you already purchased it?
If not I suggest you check out the Martha Stewart stationary storage closet. It's pretty much sealed all the way around (with a few small holes but nothing major). You can get it at www.bluelight.com. It's a lot cheaper than the walmart greenhouses, i think.
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 Re: walmart mini green house [Re: lehder]
#1249706 - 01/26/03 07:11 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes...alot of us use the Green house that you are talking about.
You only need to put some plasic under it...to keep it from ruining your carpet or hard wood floors.
I have mine on concrete...so no worries.
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: Roadkill]
#1249718 - 01/26/03 07:16 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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i was wondering also what would be a way to controll the humidity and heat?
is there any things around that can monitor the humidity and heat then turn off the humidifier and heater as needed?
i know there is one someone posted here for heat but not for humidity
http://www.zoomed.com/html/rheostats.html
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: lehder]
#1249822 - 01/26/03 08:06 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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You would set your humidifer up on a timer...and figgure out when to have it turn on and off.
You would have the room at around 74 degrees F....My grow room is always 74 degrees F.
You might need to get a space heater...or an AC unit depending on what time of year it is.
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: lehder]
#1249853 - 01/26/03 08:24 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ive got one,i had a problem keeping humiderty up so i taped a
black bin bag around the base and added a container of water with
2 air bubblers in it.Now its around 80% and temps about 74?f
Theres also a heated propergator in it that adds to heat and humiderty.
i like it i think ill get the bigger one two.
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: lehder]
#1250794 - 01/26/03 03:57 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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How does a person heat something like this? It seems to me that running a space heater in 95-100% humidity would be a bit of a fire hazard. Heating an entire bedroom to 87 deg F seems a bit much.
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: ]
#1251198 - 01/26/03 06:51 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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You only need it to be 74?f for fruiting and my house is kept at about that heat anyway.so i dont need too much extra heat added.Best to incubate in somthing else thats easyer to keep at 80?f to 84?f
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: G a n j a]
#1251546 - 01/26/03 09:19 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those would rock for growing Salvia in.
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1251553 - 01/26/03 09:22 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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I kicked my orchids out of it for the mushrooms lol.
But yes agreed the humiderty would suit salvia well.
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: G a n j a]
#1251565 - 01/26/03 09:29 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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We've been working on building something similar out of painter's tarp, and PVC over in "ethnobotanical garden".
It's in my thread about making a growing kit for salvia.
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#1253576 - 01/27/03 12:50 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: Macey Howard]
#1254317 - 01/28/03 04:34 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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What? Salvia?
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1255106 - 01/28/03 08:41 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: Bavet]
#1255200 - 01/28/03 09:14 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anno had a setup similar to that, which was antonius - I think he didn't have very good results with the ambient humidity being thrown off by casings, and a few pans of hydroponic medium (like perlite, but geolite).
He ended up hooking up a cool mist humidifier to it.
Give it a whir, you'll know quickly if you need more humidity.
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: Raadt]
#1255502 - 01/28/03 10:56 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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One thing about these green greenhouses [whatever], is that angled top; I have had several makeshift boxy shelving units that were of almost identical size. . .none worked nearly as well as this thing.
There could be other factors involved, but I'm leaning towards the shape of the top as a big one.
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: Suntzu]
#1256452 - 01/28/03 04:41 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm confused. Do you like the on from Walmart or Kmart better? How does the shape of the top affect it?
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shroomologist
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: ]
#1256476 - 01/28/03 04:51 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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get the walmart one
the top is a truss shape (angled) so that droplets don't form. Thats a good thing when you're keeping humidity that high, you don't want it to drop onto the mushrooms.
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 Re: walmart mini green house [Re: ]
#1256696 - 01/28/03 06:24 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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The top of the Walmart version is tapered, while the top of the K-mart version is flat. Suntzu believes the tapered top of the Walmart version is beneficial. I agree.
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: G a n j a]
#1257084 - 01/28/03 10:43 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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How much does one of those Walmart greenhouses cost? Is there more then on size?
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 Re: walmart mini green house [Re: ]
#1257228 - 01/29/03 12:40 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Walmart one comes with four shelves, and the Kmart one does not, I think. The Kmart(Martha Stewart)one is more for storing clothes, and Wally's is for growing plants. I don't know how much the Wallymart one costs, but I found mine at
doityourself.com Juliana Grow Rack
$60 with free shipping. Probably cheaper at Walmart, but I couldn't find any at the stores in my town. They are not stealth packaged, "4 Tier Grow Rack" is emblazoned on the box. But it's for starting seedlings in cold weather, so what the hell.
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: Fred Garvin]
#1258249 - 01/29/03 08:57 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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are people innoculating their bulk substrates while they're in the unit, or do you do it elsewhere? would it serve as a decent hood for keeping out contams during the innoculation process? if not, what methods are you using for preparation of the bulk substrate?
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: darshan]
#1258859 - 01/29/03 11:50 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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A hood is not required for innoculation of bulk, pasteurization allows enzymes to live which essentially protect the substrate during incubation.
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 Re: walmart mini green house [Re: Raadt]
#1258901 - 01/29/03 12:02 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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would a tray of damp perlite on the bottom suffice for humidity?
at least for cakes, i know perlite can be quite effective.
I think that would be ideal for me...i will look into one of those.
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: ODhaze]
#1259143 - 01/29/03 01:26 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
are people innoculating their bulk substrates while they're in the unit, or do you do it elsewhere?
I asked about that a while back. Someone told me it may be hard to keep the temp where u want it in there and incubation is better off in a more controled place.
I just use a bigger bin to spawn my trays in. Soon will be moving into my grow chamber  I may just hook up a humidifier on a timer.
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: ]
#1259195 - 01/29/03 01:47 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
How much does one of those Walmart greenhouses cost? Is there more then on size?
They come in several sizes.
2 Shelf unit.
3 Shelf unit.
4 Shelf unit. Around $40.00
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You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!
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PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: Roadkill]
#1260866 - 01/30/03 05:40 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Actually I rather build my own
Rent-A-Tool baby!
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: bjkroll]
#1261173 - 01/30/03 07:31 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Actually I rather build my own
Rent-A-Tool baby!
same here, I'm DIY on anything I can DIY. can't belive someone would want to DIY a PC tho...
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: Roadkill]
#1332915 - 02/24/03 10:22 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thought id bump this with how im keeping mine humid.
The bubbler wasnt enuff so i placed a reptile heat mat under the water catchment area in the bottom so as to recirculate the dripping condensation.This works much better but i do need to pour fresh water onto the heat mat daily(the mat is protected from water by the use of a black bag taped to the base with the mat under it)Now humiderty is fine and stable around 85% as long as i remeber to top it up.
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: G a n j a]
#1337382 - 02/26/03 09:09 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just saw in wallyworld(wall mart) the other day that the 4 shelf greenhouse was only 19.99. Was thinking about buying it but not sure if i have enough room in my room. =(
Edited by squids (02/26/03 09:09 AM)
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: squids]
#1337517 - 02/26/03 09:51 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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The best thing about them is there room savers i can fit untold mushrooms in mine and it even has different temps from the top(hottest)to the bottom(coldest) so its a beautifull space saver go back and buy it lol its half the price it is here in the uk
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: debianlinux]
#1342643 - 02/28/03 09:32 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
same here, I'm DIY on anything I can DIY. can't belive someone would want to DIY a PC tho...
I DIY a 55 gallon PC.Worked great for awhile.(80 quart jars at a time)My old lady left when the PC blew.I still can't understand her leaving since it only took one of her ears off when it blew.I went to bulk after that.
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: shroomophile]
#1349314 - 03/04/03 08:03 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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I got the 2 shelf unit at Big Lots for 19.95 US. I've got some oysters fruiting in it as we speak. I humidify with the standard steam humidifier sold by Wallyworld for under 10 dollars. They actually have 2 models under 10 bucks. You have to buy a pretty pricey timer though, because about 10 minutes worth of runtime on the humidifier every 8 hours is all you need. I can walk away from my setup for a month without needing to mist or anything. In fact I never have to mist, just refill the humidifier. I also like the steam type because it adds heat to the setup, since it's all down in a cold basement at about 59 degrees, but it helps trigger the pins. I like it, but the next step was to run with the same idea utilizing 1/2" PVC piping and plastic sheeting sealed with my impulse sealer. I used purloined bread racks, and the piping is a whopping .89 cents for 10 feet. It took 4 10 foot pieces to build the whole thing.
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Re: walmart mini green house [Re: smegol1950]
#1349403 - 03/04/03 08:25 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have to get a steam humidifyer thing
/goes to search argos
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