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inski
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Psilocybe sp. 3
#12481684 - 04/30/10 02:00 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here are a few images from todays fungi foray, you guys in San Francisco have P. "cyanofriscosa", I'm calling this interesting species P. "subsecotioides" for it's interesting partial secotioid form.
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: inski]
#12481720 - 04/30/10 02:19 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Coooooooool! Never heard of that species before.
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: inski]
#12481722 - 04/30/10 02:20 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I like these. Nice photos. My friend is mushroom hunting in NZ right now, I hear it is raining a LOT.
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Lord Mayonnaise said: Never heard of that species before.
That is because he just made up the name.
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: CureCat]
#12481745 - 04/30/10 02:36 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks guys
CureCat, yes, I know your friend is here, Alan mentioned that I should contact him! It may be raining a lot in the south island but here in Auckland it has been very dry with only one day of real rain so far, the fungi season is off to a slow start. I just posted a Psathyrella species on MO that you are probably interested in, it has interesting sphaeropedunculate cheilocystidia, I plan to make some micrographs tomorrow and add them to the observation.
Lord Mayonnaise, yes CC is right, I made that name up a while ago just as someone made up the name P. "cyanofriscosa", I think it portrays the species well, describing the form of the fruiting bodies and the fact that the basidia of this species has almost completely lost the ability to forcefully eject the spores, it is not an accepted name just as P. "cyanofriscosa" is not an accepted name or even correct Latin, hence the quotation marks!
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: inski]
#12481749 - 04/30/10 02:38 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Great work as always inski!
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: karode13]
#12481750 - 04/30/10 02:39 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well when those make it in all the textbooks, I'll get to say I saw it here first..
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: CureCat]
#12481780 - 04/30/10 02:51 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Haha, I completely misread that.
Nice name anyway.
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Love the photos inski. Keep up the great work. You manage to bring NZ's amazing fungi to the fore consistently.
Do you have any photos of a cross-section of them?
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: wisp]
#12481797 - 04/30/10 03:00 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I LOVE the bluing on the first shot.
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inski
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: wisp]
#12481823 - 04/30/10 03:11 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hi Tripsis,
I'll add some images of the cross sections tomorrow, it's interesting to note that the lamellae are often coarsely cellular like the gleba of Weraroa novae-zelandiae which is coarsely cellular and sometimes lamellar. The lamellae also become rather thickened towards the pileus trama which seems to run into the upper parts of the lamellae making the thickened area look white like the colour of the flesh of the pileus. inski.
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: inski]
#12481868 - 04/30/10 03:33 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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WOW!! this is awesome!! very nice!!!! i cant wait for more of this!!! those are very cool loooking! good eye!! mushroom hunting at it's best! your fucking awesome inski!!!!(sorry im a lil' drunk)! haha!! woo!!
Edited by Joeisthevolcano (04/30/10 03:34 AM)
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inski
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No problem, I'm glad it was so exciting for you. I was excited when I first saw this species
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: inski]
#12481950 - 04/30/10 04:40 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Awesome man! Yeah those are definately the same ones I found last year too! As we were talking about it today, those are from the same spot you were at today haha
You remember those pictures I sent you Tripsis for Workman to mycroscopy? These are the same ones from the same spot
I can't fint he pix which sucks, I dont have them any more
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: J.T]
#12481995 - 04/30/10 05:17 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Haha, nice!
Do you remember what the verdict was with those? I can't recall what he said.
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: wisp]
#12482381 - 04/30/10 08:34 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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holy shit inski!! that is wicked!! cant wait to see more pics and more info.
keep us updated inski!
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: wisp]
#12482400 - 04/30/10 08:41 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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tripsis said: Haha, nice!
Do you remember what the verdict was with those? I can't recall what he said.
Yeah he thought it was was a P. Subaerginosa originating from Tasmania. Interesting
Edited by J.T (05/01/10 08:45 AM)
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: J.T]
#12484076 - 04/30/10 02:53 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Those are beautiful! Awesome finds
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Wow! What an intriguing specimen you've got! When I first saw them I thought they were Ink Caps for sure, but now that I see they aren't I'm blown away! If I walked by those I wouldn't have ever thought...
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: J.T]
#12484637 - 04/30/10 04:45 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hi J.T,
These were found in a completely different location.
I don't think it is P. subaeruginosa at all, nor do I think it originates in Tasmania!
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: inski]
#12485592 - 04/30/10 08:01 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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He really thought that JT? That is very strange indeed.
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: wisp]
#12485615 - 04/30/10 08:05 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey Inski!
Where do you pull all these psilocybe sp. out from?
Those look super cool.
Im a bit confused...
Is P. "subsecotioides" suposed to be closely related to P. "cyanofriscosa"?
Have you sent any of this material to be inspected? Or have you done any microscopy on these?
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: Oreganic]
#12485661 - 04/30/10 08:12 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oreganic said: Wow! What an intriguing specimen you've got! When I first saw them I thought they were Ink Caps for sure, but now that I see they aren't I'm blown away! If I walked by those I wouldn't have ever thought...
no kidding eh! i probably would have walked right by them.
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Hi Inski,
once again great picture, and its great for other too see some amazing fungi from NZ and also put this little country on the map.
did you find these around our area?
and are many that look the same as "P. subsecotioides" ;p
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: inski]
#12487782 - 05/01/10 08:51 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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inski said: Hi J.T,
These were found in a completely different location.
I don't think it is P. subaeruginosa at all, nor do I think it originates in Tasmania!
My mistake! I thought those were the ones from 'BK' we were talking about on Friday
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psychedelicSLUG said: Hey Inski!
Where do you pull all these psilocybe sp. out from?
Those look super cool.
Im a bit confused...
Is P. "subsecotioides" suposed to be closely related to P. "cyanofriscosa"?
Have you sent any of this material to be inspected? Or have you done any microscopy on these?
i dont think so slug, he is just calling them that like how cyanfriscosas are called that but have not been officially named.
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I don't think the quotes are needed, I'd just add nom prov. to the end until you publish it.
Inski make sure to get this sequenced ASAP.
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psychedelicSLUG said: Hey Inski!
Where do you pull all these psilocybe sp. out from?
Those look super cool.
Im a bit confused...
Is P. "subsecotioides" suposed to be closely related to P. "cyanofriscosa"?
Have you sent any of this material to be inspected? Or have you done any microscopy on these?
i dont think so slug, he is just calling them that like how cyanfriscosas are called that but have not been officially named.
Ah I see... well it is still fantastic!
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megafantasticmagnificentamazingincredibly awesome!
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Great find Inski!
To me, they look like an evolutionary transitional form between Weraroa nova-zelandiae and Psilocybe subaeruginosa.
Edited by nightflyer (05/02/10 03:18 AM)
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I agree with that completely.
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nightflyer said: Great find Inski!
To me, they look like an evolutionary transitional form between Weraroa nova-zelandiae and Psilocybe subaeruginosa.
This is quite an interesting speculation...
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ya thats a cool idea. an evolutionary transition.
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ALL THREE SPECIES OCCURRING IN NEW-ZEALAND:
Weraroa novae-zelandiae
Inski's find
Psilocybe subaeruginosa EVOLUTION AT WORK!
I guess, closer examination will reveal, that Inski's find belongs to the section Cyanescens, like Psilocybe subaeruginosa.
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you can really see the similarity of the weraroas and inskis find eh!!
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psylosymonreturns said: you can really see the similarity of the weraroas and inskis find eh!!
Yeah that is fantastic!
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nightflyer said: ALL THREE SPECIES OCCURRING IN NEW-ZEALAND:
Is there not more?
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: inski]
#12494955 - 05/02/10 06:04 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm calling this interesting species P. "subsecotioides" for it's interesting partial secotioid form.
Cool, at least we don't have to call them rhizomorphs anymore.
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inski
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Your right Alan, I hope I don't hear them being called that again, that was a big misunderstanding. Here are the rest of the images.
Spores, 1000x, scale divisions=1µm. All microscopy at 1000x unless stated otherwise.
Basidia.
Basidioles.
Pleurocystidia.
Cheilocystidia.
Pileipellis, 400x, scale divisions=2.5µm.
Pileipellis, clamp connections.
Pileus trama, inflated cells with clamp connections.
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: inski]
#12496434 - 05/02/10 10:57 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Those are breathtaking!
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Hi Inski, perfect photos and absolutely professional work!
THANKS!
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inski
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Thanks guys, I find the cespitose habit quite interesting, these can be found singly or in cespitose groups containing many fruit bodies fruiting from single pieces of rotting wood. Note the close up of a cross section showing the lamellae that are partly cellular like Weraroa novae-zelandiae.
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: inski]
#12497350 - 05/03/10 02:31 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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High quality photos inski! Very professional approach. That's a beautiful cluster you've collected. The gills look like they have no shortage of spores on them.
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: wisp]
#12497366 - 05/03/10 02:40 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Trip Report (good man)...Trip Report.
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: inski]
#12497403 - 05/03/10 03:11 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Top job documenting this species.
Great mahi inski!
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: karode13]
#12497475 - 05/03/10 04:17 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Great work inski, thanks for sharing the knowledge!
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: Mikael]
#12497582 - 05/03/10 05:37 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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P Subaeruginosa and Weraroa novae-zelandiae had a baby!
I swear i had read this somewhere else before (supposing that this was a hybrid)... maybe even inski speculating, cant for the life of me remember.
Does this species spread by way of slugs and snails(etc)? I recall reading that Weraroa novae-zelandiae does this and from what you said about completely lacking a way of distributing spores forcefully, it would seem so.
Love it, makes me want to go to New Zealand .
No censorship and lots of rain!!!
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: Nobitte]
#12497882 - 05/03/10 08:33 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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wow what an awesome set of photos inski!! those are outstanding!
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Well done my comrade, well done indeed
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: Nobitte]
#12577471 - 05/17/10 05:21 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nobitte said: P Subaeruginosa and Weraroa novae-zelandiae had a baby!
I swear i had read this somewhere else before (supposing that this was a hybrid)... maybe even inski speculating, cant for the life of me remember.
Love it, makes me want to go to New Zealand .
No censorship and lots of rain!!!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10379047/page/3
It was mentioned in my thread when I found these for the first time last year! There was still a lot of speulation about their safety/toxicity even from that thread only a year ago. Wow.
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: nickc]
#12577856 - 05/17/10 08:36 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Great finds!!
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Wow Wow Wow Perfect Job every time, dam your lens is good too.
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Some 2010 finds of these babies.
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: xthrx]
#12700070 - 06/06/10 09:42 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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xthrx said:
Some 2010 finds of these babies.
Those look fucking awesome!
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no doubt eh slug! they are just nutty looking. great find dude.
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: inski]
#12736803 - 06/13/10 03:02 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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These are some Psilocybe sp. found a few days ago
mixed 9 of them with about 8 subs for each tea 4 people 1 tea each Level 5 Success!
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: Chopped]
#12737217 - 06/13/10 04:21 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mhh i wonder how it has managed to survive for so long if it cant eject spores...
could over picking this one could lead to its extinction??
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: AIRDOG]
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AIRDOG said: Mhh i wonder how it has managed to survive for so long if it cant eject spores...
could over picking this one could lead to its extinction??
They possibly rely on slugs/snails and running water after rotting away to transport spores. I believe these are also the most likely methods the blue pouch fungus Weraroa novae-zelandiae uses.
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: nickc]
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I thought they do eject spores.. The places I find these growing they are not only growing in huge clusters but the area in which I find them is widespread.
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Re: Psilocybe sp. [Re: xthrx]
#12740379 - 06/14/10 07:34 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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i agreed, i find these in massive clusters, i cant bother to count because there are hundreds of them in just one multch garden on the north shore
i have not looked in other multch gardens like the one i found these in but im sure there are many other's like them
they must spread spores sumhow i dont know maybe with the flor of water and rain that floods them and caries the spores a little bit away till they sing onto the micelum when the water sinks into the soil im not sure. just doubt they would be vanishing any time soon
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nightflyer said: Great find Inski!
To me, they look like an evolutionary transitional form between Weraroa nova-zelandiae and Psilocybe subaeruginosa.
i absolutely agree with this and have thought this myself. my guess was the weraroa novae-zealandiae learned to open up at the stem and these types evolved into p. subsecotiodes. i found this species years ago in northland before i knew of weraroa spp. it is very common and found in large numbers, unlike weraroa. i dont know for sure though of course, but the trip is very simular to weraroas in visual but like subs madness at the same time. very strong and i find can cause nausea. i dont think its particularly toxic but have heard of people going a bit permanently crazy after taking far too many of these
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...interesting though
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