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Nounan
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Jitsu]
#12450800 - 04/24/10 06:37 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Eek, I thought that was not so bad... it's a compact fluorescent lamp, energy saver and it's not really generating heat and RH is only shutting down when air purifier is on.
Light is 10 000 lumens 6400K with white/blue specter and is generally not too bad for growing purpose. If i use natural sun light it's going more hot than with this light. i was more worried about shroom taking too much light than too much heat :P I didn't find much more post with peeps using this kind of light
Edited by Nounan (04/24/10 06:38 PM)
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Nounan]
#12450839 - 04/24/10 06:47 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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6500K CFL's are what most people use
you must have quite the CFL if its putting out 10,000 lumens
Edited by Shea25 (04/24/10 06:48 PM)
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Shea25]
#12451487 - 04/24/10 09:57 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I know those flouros..looks perfect to me, as long as it doesnt generate heat.
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Nounan
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Hey,
This light might be good and i think i m really doing something not too bad :P
Another step forward .... some P.mexicana are pinning :P

This one is more standard but going well too, P.C Treasure Coast :

And this pic is pretty funny, forgot something inside a box a day ...

I ll update in the week the P.mexicana tray.
Oh and i tryed to put an agar part in a LC, that's lead to something "special", lot of myc grew around and attach to the agar ... nothing i can do with that ? Any idea better than trash
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Nounan]
#12469375 - 04/28/10 12:07 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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You can use the LC to start new jars?
Looking good
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Nounan
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Hum Ye would be a great idea if you say me how to extract something from that :P
If i can beg some advices on agar too ^^
On this one i think i need to wait more before transfering :
Those 2 are pan cambo i don't really know if iso is good :
MS from Pan Tropicalis, this is not looking like other myc i tryed at time, don't really see what to tranfert
And for those two, i think i m near to finish iso but i think i still don't got only 1 sector

thanks
Edited by Nounan (04/28/10 08:20 AM)
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Nounan]
#12470411 - 04/28/10 08:47 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shake really hard, then use a syringe to suck it up. I think thats what your asking?
Pan myc is very cottony..
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Nounan
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Ye i saw that ^^
Some news now 
1st i want to post a pic from the 1st flush from the Treasure coast tray so you will notice the difference between 1st and 2nd flush ... Genetic ?
TC 1st flush :

TC 2nd flush running :
   
And The Mexicana Tray, Top of the cap is really different from cubs ^^
  
Hope ya enjoy pics ^^and thanks again for all the help !
Edited by Nounan (04/29/10 10:49 AM)
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Nounan]
#12476814 - 04/29/10 11:00 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Is it me or do those mexicana look like cubes? I know theyre pointy ect, but they look like huge pins..Ive had cubes that looked very much like that. We'll see when they grow up.
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Nounan
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I found the myc really white on agar but was more orange with RGS. I didn't get any sclerotia from 4 or 5 jar but i transferred just when fully colonized. Spore are from MRCA so i m pretty sure they are good and what they labeled but you right they are more huge than what i was waiting for.
The fact is that i m misting (manually and with humidifier) and refreshing air as i never did and all shroom are looking really huge, on TC you see that they already grew as much as the 1st flush and they are still not open. I m using near 1L of water each day misting directly casing and sides of the GH
Edit : And temp during day is around 77°F 80°F with lot of evaporation and down to 68°F 70°F during the night
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Nounan]
#12476937 - 04/29/10 11:28 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lots of water wont make mexicanas huge though..they have very very thin stipes genetically...if those arent thin stipes..I think you may have some cubes going there.
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Nounan
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Here is a pic of RGS colonizing
 
I inoculate the box with the syringe directly and no way i messed up something.
But for sure that's not looking like http://www.mrcashop.org/mushroom_shop/spore-syringe-psilocybe-mexicana-pi-656.html but since my 2nd TC flush has nothing to compare with his 1st flush ....
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Nounan]
#12477071 - 04/29/10 11:53 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I havnt grown out mexicana but I have done pan cyans, very similar..the myc doesnt look right..looks like cubie myc. Im guessing along the way, the label got mixed up...it happens. Stipes for mexicana will only be 1-3 mm..if they are bigger (looks like it) well...you know..
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The myc was cotony not ryzo at all like pan trop actually are.
Btw 3 to 5 days to see them mature. I ll wait at least that and perhaps the 2nd flush too before complaining.
I m not sure i didn't used a bad bottle at start for misting... anyway for some mutation ? They got a really sharp hat ^^
I ll keep update during next days
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Nounan]
#12482410 - 04/30/10 08:44 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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24 hours later ...
You gave me some doubts but they really look something like P.mexicana ^^ Anyway they will soon open ^^
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Nounan]
#12482587 - 04/30/10 09:50 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sorry to cast more doubts...
They look something like it..but those stems are 1/2 a cm to 1 cm wide...also note the roughness on the stem..not smooth..they dont look like mexicana to me.

Pointy caps means nothing..I wish I had better pointy capped pin photos.
Pointy cap cubes: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1035225#1035225
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Nounan
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Ye, i think you right, this is definitely not a mexicana strain ...
When i received this order after 3 weeks without any news and no reply to mails, i used the syringe on MEA plate, the myc wasn't looking like pics i saw of mexicana grow at all. I mailed about that and someone answered to me there was no possible mess up.
At same time i ordered a GT print that is untouched, perhaps they prepared the syringe with the wrong print ^^
Damn will need to wait for incubating pan trops before to be proud to grow something else than cubs ^^
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Nounan]
#12529171 - 05/08/10 09:45 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Whello !
Ok I think this time there is no mess up ^^
1st, Pan Ban lamai casing, Spawn bag with RGS/straw/manure spawned with Rye grain It's my first time with pans and don't know if i need to patch that. Put directly in FC after cased 1 week ago.
 
2nd and 3th Pan Trop, spawn bag with RGS/straw/manure spawned with Rye grain
 
 
and the 4th, Still Pan Trop, Spawned directly in jar with straw/manure mix then cased in 1L microbox and ..... Pinningggg !!!!! wuwuw ... but pins are curious, doesn't they look curiously greenish ? ....
 
like always all advice are welcome
Edited by Nounan (05/08/10 09:48 PM)
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Nounan]
#12530960 - 05/09/10 09:57 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks great so far. The pans looks normal to me.
The way I identify a properly applied casing layer is when the pins underneath the casing carry sediment on the cap of the mushroom during fruiting.
good luck!
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Jitsu]
#12535859 - 05/10/10 08:34 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hello !
Thanks Jitsu !
Some news pics ^^
Pan Trop (MRCA)
24h after 1st Pics :

36h after 1st pics :
  
Panaeolus (Copelandia) cambodginiensis : Thailand, Suphanburi Goliath(TM) (Sporeworks)
Micro casing 10cmx10cm :
 
Big Casing :
 
I don't know at all when those pan will be ready for harvest or/and printing, any advice on this point is welcome
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