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Re: 1 in 5 members of the Shroomery will die from cancer [Re: druqs]
    #12466853 - 04/27/10 04:11 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I'm pretty sure burning anything and inhaling the smoke is a bad thing. Carbon monoxide and carcinogens are in most types of smoke from natural things like green stuff and wood and plants like tobacco. And carcinogens are linked to lots of different types of cancers. But who gives a fuck man marijuana is wonderful, it enhances all the good elements of my life!


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Re: 1 in 5 members of the Shroomery will die from cancer [Re: blazenn]
    #12466856 - 04/27/10 04:12 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Good point


i always forget that


it never really crosses my mind cause i dont use em anywayz


I KNOW FOR A FACT they suck against aids


but what about other stds??


i know they only suck at preventing hiv/aids bcuz those bacteria or w/e are smaller than a bloodcell


how bout the other ones though :strokebeard:?


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Re: 1 in 5 members of the Shroomery will die from cancer [Re: blazenn]
    #12466859 - 04/27/10 04:12 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I take at least two condoms before having sex.
Those fuckers are chewy.


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Re: 1 in 5 members of the Shroomery will die from cancer [Re: CharlieD123] * 1
    #12466883 - 04/27/10 04:15 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

You all need to stop thinking about whats going to kill you. You're already dead, fools. All this talk of smoke, time to burn one. :satansmoking:


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Re: 1 in 5 members of the Shroomery will die from cancer [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
    #12466892 - 04/27/10 04:16 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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gngsteroflove said:
I take at least two condoms before having sex.
Those fuckers are chewy.



"Would you like some chewing gum?" Reminds me of coneheads
:lolsy:


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    #12466980 - 04/27/10 04:30 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: 1 in 5 members of the Shroomery will die from cancer [Re: AnonymousRabbit] * 1
    #12466997 - 04/27/10 04:33 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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supernovasky said:
MJ is carcino-suppressive. There is loads of research out there on this, and I've posted the sources about a hundred times in this forum. It makes people less likely to die from several forms of cancer, and several forms of cancer are less common among marijuana smokers, including lung cancer. Carbon monoxide and other toxins are carcinogenic, but there are chemicals in marijuana smoke that help induce apoptosis.




finally, a credited doctor to tell us whats up

thanks supernovasky, you have enlightened us all


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Re: 1 in 5 members of the Shroomery will die from cancer [Re: deCypher]
    #12467201 - 04/27/10 05:15 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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Mr. Cypher said:
I will die either from skydiving into a volcano while tripping balls on DMT, or from blowing my brains out because the world's stupidity depresses me so much.




The first option sounds pretty good :smile:

The second much closer to reality though :frown:

On the cancer topic, some scientist, including a buddy of mine, are currently working on a medicine derived from snake venom. Agkistrodon contortrix spp. (copperhead) to be exact, which seems to target those exact cancer cells. Do not know much of the details, he could not tell me, classified stuff and all. Anyway he came to milk my snakes one day, since I am one of the few with Agkistrodon in The Netherlands. Will be a long process but who knows someday it might actually be used to treat us :smile:


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Re: 1 in 5 members of the Shroomery will die from cancer [Re: Apostle]
    #12467237 - 04/27/10 05:25 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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Hologram said:
Good point


i always forget that


it never really crosses my mind cause i dont use em anywayz


I KNOW FOR A FACT they suck against aids


but what about other stds??


i know they only suck at preventing hiv/aids bcuz those bacteria or w/e are smaller than a bloodcell


how bout the other ones though :strokebeard:?





the fact that condoms dont cover every part of the skin that touches eachother makes them highly unreliable for any and all stds.


plus you can never tell just how much wear and tear the condom's got going on, it doesn't have to break for it to become porous enough for all that shit to get through. which is the reason im not very comfortable even cumming in her with a condom on.

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Re: 1 in 5 members of the Shroomery will die from cancer [Re: dehoefasho]
    #12467250 - 04/27/10 05:28 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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I thought marijuana was proven not to worsen the chance of lung cancer
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mellowparty said:
Well what my lecturer recommends is changing your diet and stop smoking.




So lung cancer?

Because I thought marijuana wasn't proven to make one more susceptible to cancer other than lung cancer, and that it might, in fact, help prevent it. Although I doubt the latter has much, if any, concrete evidence behind it.
:shrug:





i doubt it, cannabinoids have great potential in fighting cancer cells, but its the act of inhaling burning plant material and combustion chemicals that cause cancer. Its like eating a big mac while jogging and thinking that will work.


any doctor will tell you smoking is one of the more damaging forms of ingestion and would reccomend almost any method over smoking.


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Re: 1 in 5 members of the Shroomery will die from cancer [Re: sui]
    #12467312 - 04/27/10 05:42 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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cannabinoids have great potential in fighting cancer cells, but its the act of inhaling burning plant material and combustion chemicals that cause cancer.



You sure about that?

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any doctor will tell you smoking is one of the more damaging forms of ingestion and would reccomend almost any method over smoking.



I don't care what "any doctor will tell me". Doctors are capable of being conditioned to hold certain views.

Sure eating and vaping is better than smoking anything but I doubt smoking weed and only weed will directly contribute to cancer


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Re: 1 in 5 members of the Shroomery will die from cancer [Re: mikeisapro]
    #12467393 - 04/27/10 05:58 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

ok then, i just think youre conditioned to think weed is harmless.


its stupid and naive to think inhaling burning plant matter into yopur lungs is not harmful and wont cause cancer.


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Re: 1 in 5 members of the Shroomery will die from cancer [Re: sui]
    #12467401 - 04/27/10 06:00 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

the carcinogens are the chemicals created during combustion. you get them when burning ANYTHING.


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Re: 1 in 5 members of the Shroomery will die from cancer [Re: sui]
    #12467431 - 04/27/10 06:06 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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suimush said:
the carcinogens are the chemicals created during combustion. you get them when burning ANYTHING.



That is not the onl y factor that contributes to cancer.

Look at tobacco vs pot. Obviously tobacco directly contributes to cancer. Why have studies shown that pot doesn't? Is it because tobacco is grown with radioactive fertilizers and contains several added chemicals and pot doesn't?

Sorry, I don't believe (yes it's only a belief) that weed causes cancer just from "chemicals created during combustion"


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Re: 1 in 5 members of the Shroomery will die from cancer [Re: mikeisapro]
    #12467457 - 04/27/10 06:14 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

no its because studies cant be done on cannabis without the reaearchers having to jump through hoops.

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http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6891
Cannabis smoke – unlike tobacco smoke – has not been definitively linked to cancer in humans, including those cancers associated with tobacco use. However, certain cellular abnormalities in the lungs have been identified more frequently in long-term smokers of cannabis compared to non-smokers. Chronic exposure to cannabis smoke has also been associated with the development of pre-cancerous changes in bronchial and epithelium cells in similar rates to tobacco smokers. Cellular abnormalities were most present in individuals who smoked both tobacco and marijuana, implying that cannabis and tobacco smoke may have an additive adverse effect on airway tissue. The results suggest that long-term exposure to cannabis smoke, particularly when combined with tobacco smoking, is capable of damaging the bronchial system in ways that could one day lead to respiratory cancers. However, to date, no epidemiologic studies of cannabis-only smokers have yet to reveal such a finding. Larger, better-controlled studies are warranted.





this suggests to me that smoking cannabis probobly causes cancer but that the tests havent been done to conclusivly prove it.


just because cannabinoids have shown promise in treating certain types of cancer does not mean it negates the damage the you method of ingestion is causing.


Its naive to assume it wont.


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    #12467633 - 04/27/10 06:39 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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    #12467657 - 04/27/10 06:41 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: 1 in 5 members of the Shroomery will die from cancer [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #12467676 - 04/27/10 06:43 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Unfortunately, there are few human studies suggesting anti-tumor effects of MJ.

You can do a lot of things in petri dishes, mice and rats that may not translate into a clinically meaningful treatment.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: 1 in 5 members of the Shroomery will die from cancer [Re: AnonymousRabbit]
    #12467681 - 04/27/10 06:43 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

great, we know that it has potential to be benefitial in fighting cancer, that doest mean that smoking it chronically on a daily basis doesnt cuase cancer. there need to be more studys to prove anything, It looks good, but letsnot celebrate yet.


It will take alot to convince me inhaling burning plant mater does not cause cancer.


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Re: 1 in 5 members of the Shroomery will die from cancer [Re: badchad]
    #12467702 - 04/27/10 06:46 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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badchad said:
Unfortunately, there are few human studies suggesting anti-tumor effects of MJ.

You can do a lot of things in petri dishes, mice and rats that may not translate into a clinically meaningful treatment.






exactly there just isnt enough research to say for sure one way or the other, and given that as far as i know smoking causes cancer, im going to assume its the same with cannabis until it can be conclusivly proved.


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