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Nixon Jr.
    #1245594 - 01/24/03 10:41 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Ex-Va. GOP Chief Accused of Eavesdropping
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RICHMOND, Va. - The former executive director of Virginia's Republican Party was indicted Thursday on federal charges he eavesdropped on conference calls among Democratic legislators last year.

Edmund A. Matricardi III, 34, was accused of using a telephone number and access codes to listen in on the teleconferences.

He was charged with five counts involving the interception of electronic communications. Each count carries up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

Matricardi resigned over the scandal but was later hired as operations director of the South Carolina Republican Party. On Thursday, after he was indicted, he resigned that post, too.

His attorney, Steven Benjamin, criticized the timing of the indictment. He said he had asked prosecutors to hold off on any charges until after the Virginia General Assembly had adjourned Feb. 22. He said any legal proceedings would probably require legislators to testify.

Matricardi was indicted in April on state charges, but the charges were dropped when state and local authorities asked federal investigators to take over the case.

Claudia Tucker, a former aide to the state House speaker, pleaded guilty in federal court Wednesday to a misdemeanor charge in the case and was sentenced to a year of probation and fined $1,000. She was accused of secretly listening to 22 minutes of a Democratic conference call over legislative redistricting.

Prosecutors said Matricardi used his telephone at state GOP headquarters and a telephone number and access code he had been given by a former Democratic Party staffer to call into an interstate conference call of the Joint Democratic Caucus last March.

"Without disclosing he was on the line, he secretly listened for approximately 2 1/2 hours and recorded the call on a tape recorder," U.S. Attorney Paul McNulty said.

The indictment said Matricardi disclosed the contents of the call the next day to an official in the office of Republican Attorney General Jerry Kilgore, who alerted the Virginia State Police.

Two days later, Matricardi allegedly eavesdropped on an interstate conference call of state Democrats for about two hours.

Former Democratic Party field director Jacquelyn Daniel has told reporters that she gave Matricardi the phone number and access codes after losing her party job during a reorganization.

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Re: Nixon Jr. [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1245623 - 01/24/03 10:51 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

If it's true, he should resign. I can't help the feeling though that if he had been a Democrat, you'd have never made this post.


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Re: Nixon Jr. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1245631 - 01/24/03 10:54 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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I can't help the feeling though that if he had been a Democrat, you'd have never made this post. 


Duh, that's your job. :grin: I kid, I kid.


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Re: Nixon Jr. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1245640 - 01/24/03 11:00 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

If it's true, he should resign.
Didn't read to closely there did we?

I can't help the feeling though that if he had been a Democrat, you'd have never made this post.
What makes you say that? :wink: Though I am sure if it was a Democrat, you would have probably made the post.  :grin:


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Re: Nixon Jr. [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1245651 - 01/24/03 11:08 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

It would seem I read it a bit closer than you.

was accused of, was charged with, was indicted in.....
I guess what's missing is, admitted or was found guilty of.

Hense my, If it's true. Or are you psychic? Do you have some amazing inside source?

Or in your glee at seeing the word Republican, did you just assume he is guilty?


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Re: Nixon Jr. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1245653 - 01/24/03 11:09 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

He's already resigned skitch.  :grin:


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Re: Nixon Jr. [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1245666 - 01/24/03 11:13 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

No shit. Does it say in the article he resigned because of this? Gosh... it doesn't. It say's "over the scandel", does it say he did it?

Now while you can infer that, it's not stated.

And if it's true, resigning was the right thing to do. What concept are you failing to grasp here?


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Edited by luvdemshrooms (01/24/03 11:14 AM)


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Re: Nixon Jr. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1245696 - 01/24/03 11:25 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Well, when he was originally indicted by the state, he resigned. The state later then dropped the charges so that a Federal case could be pursued. He went to go work for SC, and then he then resigns as soon as he was indicted on a Federal level. State republicans have already spoken out against him, and the evidence is pretty overwhelming.

However I don't think that I stated that he was guilty, so maybe you should quit inferring that I believe he is guilty, and quit putting words in my mouth. I was merely stating that he had already resigned, in response to you "if he is guilty he should resign" post. What concept are you failing to grasp here?


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Re: Nixon Jr. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1245703 - 01/24/03 11:28 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

And acutally the article does say, "he resigned over the scandal", but I am sure this is just the liberal media's interpretation of the matter.


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Re: Nixon Jr. [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1245710 - 01/24/03 11:32 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Has HE said that's why he resigned? Nope, at least not in that article.

And yes, the evidence seems overwhelming. But he has not been found, nor has he admitted guilt.

So the original sentence stands.


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Re: Nixon Jr. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1245727 - 01/24/03 11:37 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

You aren't listening to me.

ALL I WAS STATING WAS THAT HE HAD ALREADY RESIGNED.

You had stated that if he is guilty he should resign. Either you meant to say that "If he was guilty he should have resigned", or you were thinking that he was still holding office somehwere. I interpreted your statement as the latter. Why is that so difficult to understand?


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Re: Nixon Jr. [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1245761 - 01/24/03 11:49 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Because your interpretation is wrong.

Let's try this....
Sam cut his hand so he put a bandage on it. If he cut his hand, he should put a bandage on it.

It's the thing to do, as resigning was the thing to do.

He had already resigned. If he's guilty he should resign.

Your example sentence would work if he hadn't resigned.


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Re: Nixon Jr. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1245789 - 01/24/03 12:00 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

"If he cut his hand, he should put a bandage on it."
In this instance, 'cut' is in the past tense. Without the 'have' following 'should' the sentence is grammatically incorrect because the last half of the sentence is in the present tense. Either that or 'cut' needs to be 'cuts'.

Edit: Furthermore, when one writes it is improper to change tenses as you did. It makes things confusing as we have found tonite.

But I see your point. However my sentence would have been a suitable replacement for yours, because he had resigned, and you were of the matter.


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Edited by I_Fart_Blue (01/24/03 12:03 PM)


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Re: Nixon Jr. [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1245827 - 01/24/03 12:17 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

If you say so, personally, I think you're wrong.

I stand by what I wrote, and would do so again.

Quote:

and you were of the matter



It doesn't sound as if you should lecture anyone on their grammar.


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Re: Nixon Jr. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1245945 - 01/24/03 01:30 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, well my error came from chopping up my reply when I edited it, not from ignorance.


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Re: Nixon Jr. [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1245983 - 01/24/03 01:50 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Ah, the typical leftie response.

What a surprise.


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