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Honey in BRF/vermiculite substrate
    #1245423 - 01/24/03 07:32 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

A friend told me awhile back that adding a teaspoon of honey to the PF tek substrate considerably helps fruiting. Any thoughts on that?

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Re: Honey in BRF/vermiculite substrate [Re: SavageHuxley]
    #1245524 - 01/24/03 08:18 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

it might increase the nutrients which can't be a bad thing. another good additive i heard is leeched compost/dung water.

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Re: Honey in BRF/vermiculite substrate [Re: socratesmind]
    #1245643 - 01/24/03 09:02 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

My only question would be:

How would a person add the honey?? It would fucking stick to everything and you would just have a big size ball of sticky ass brf and verm. I would think a person would have to dissolve the honey into the water added to the mix prior to actually mixing everything. If that makes any sence at all.

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Re: Honey in BRF/vermiculite substrate [Re: Se77vN]
    #1245658 - 01/24/03 09:10 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

You would dissolve it into the water.

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Re: Honey in BRF/vermiculite substrate [Re: SavageHuxley]
    #1247042 - 01/25/03 01:10 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds Like an idea to me.
I'm about to make us some jars, I have a syringe i've had for about 2 months cooling it's hells in the bar frige to use.Might as well do some tests. IF things come out I'll post any pros or cons i might find.. :crazy:

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Re: Honey in BRF/vermiculite substrate [Re: ShroomALooM]
    #1247049 - 01/25/03 01:19 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I tried that on 12 1/2 pinters and the jars had a upside down peak the color of honey inside them. They never would colonize enuff so i finially chunked em. :confused:

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Re: Honey in BRF/vermiculite substrate [Re: ShroomALooM]
    #1247093 - 01/25/03 02:21 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

i think you need to focus on experimenting with variable concentrations of the honey. don't forget to account for the extra water inherent in the honey that you are adding. let's say you make 12 jars. i'd recommend 1 normal non-honey jar for control and then say 2X1gram, 2X1.5gram, 2X2gram, 2X3gram, and 3X4gram honey inoculated jars. this way you could track which concentrations seem better for overall colonization speed and quality as well "overdoses" that will cause stunted growth or contamination. Personally, I achieve a "burst" effect by inoculting everything I do with pre-germinated mycelium honey water. This not only foregoes the germinating within the jar but has to provide some nutritional additive (albeit probably short term). The result is rapidly colonizing grains and cakes.

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