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Re: Ancient Aliens is a five part series!!!! [Re: Sunny]
#12470916 - 04/28/10 11:04 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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ShockValue said: Hooray. Another show from the history channel about pseudoscience. 
They present some very interesting stuff
That "regular" science has failed to explain
you can roll your eyes till next sunday, Ancient Alien Theorists present some very intersting facts
Like the fact that many civilizations thousands of miles away from each other used similar building techniques (which we cant explain) during the same time without any way of contacting one another
at least none that we can explain
You can either call it coincidence or join the search for answers to these mindboggling phenomena
Sounds like a lot of nonsense.
You'd be surprised to learn (from actual scientists and textbooks no less), that the vast majority of building techniques used by ancient civilizations (including our own Hellenistic tradition), are nothing more than very simple geometric tricks.
It might even surprise you to learn that Pythagoras came up with his splendid mathematical concepts around 500 B.C. about 900 years before the Mayans built their pyramids.
It's also no mystery how the Pyramids at Giza were built, nor has it been for awhile now.
Egyptologists know from sites around the Pyramids, that it took about 20 years, and 25,000 laborers to construct them. For reference, it took 200 years to finish Notre Dame.
Moving the stones required no alien technology either, they used (as is described in some tombs of the time period) ox teams, man power, simple mechanics, and a prepared slipway to move the stones from quarry to build site.
The truth is, humans are VERY clever monkeys. Don't doubt what they can or can't do.
Humans should not be underestimated true. But for the people of the past to have built what they built is nothing short of amazing. If we knew how they built the pyramids then there would be no room for speculation. These people are not just pulling shit out of their ass.
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or loose there credibility
It is obvious why you fall for this tripe. 
The presenters were all authors of books that have been previously refuted point-by-point; plus they throw in a radio show talk host whose entire show is about wacky, unsubstantiated ideas. It was nothing more than shilling.
The entire premise was: we don't understand ergo - aliens.
The first show had professors from very credible schools and others there to balance out the show as far as skeptics and believers are concerned. I find it terribly hard to believe how someone these days can not question this shit and completely wright it off as nothing. We have been here for but a speck of time and yet we think we have all the answers. Laughable.
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Re: Ancient Aliens is a five part series!!!! [Re: DeadHearts]
#12470969 - 04/28/10 11:14 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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What I don't understand is that the same people who denounse religion and God are the same folks that entertain the idea of alien interferance.
They're both wild fantasies used to explain the things we don't understand. Don't understand how mountain tops are flat? God must have made it that way! Or aliens must have blasted them off with their superior technologies!
Why must we insert wild stories and superstition into anything that we don't understand? Why isn't it OK to say "We don't fully understand this phenomenom, but we're trying to figure it out." Instead we have to insert aliens, or gods, or magic or whatever to fill that void.
"I don't know" is an acceptable answer.
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Re: Ancient Aliens is a five part series!!!! [Re: DeadHearts]
#12471072 - 04/28/10 11:33 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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or loose there credibility
It is obvious why you fall for this tripe. 
The presenters were all authors of books that have been previously refuted point-by-point; plus they throw in a radio show talk host whose entire show is about wacky, unsubstantiated ideas. It was nothing more than shilling.
The entire premise was: we don't understand ergo - aliens.
The first show had professors from very credible schools and others there to balance out the show as far as skeptics and believers are concerned. I find it terribly hard to believe how someone these days can not question this shit and completely wright it off as nothing. We have been here for but a speck of time and yet we think we have all the answers. Laughable.
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Re: Ancient Aliens is a five part series!!!! [Re: ShockValue]
#12471188 - 04/28/10 12:00 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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ShockValue said: What I don't understand is that the same people who denounse religion and God are the same folks that entertain the idea of alien interferance.
They're both wild fantasies used to explain the things we don't understand. Don't understand how mountain tops are flat? God must have made it that way! Or aliens must have blasted them off with their superior technologies!
Why must we insert wild stories and superstition into anything that we don't understand? Why isn't it OK to say "We don't fully understand this phenomenom, but we're trying to figure it out." Instead we have to insert aliens, or gods, or magic or whatever to fill that void.
"I don't know" is an acceptable answer.
That is fine to say "I dont know or We just dont know" And that would also be the truth. We do know that shit like that did not happen naturally and giving some very interesting artifacts and writings and paintings and such to me is not a wild fantasy. If I had to choose between aliens and god, well you know what I would choose but one is obviously more likely than the other. So let me ask you this. Instead of me just saying "I dont know!?" Why is it wrong for me to think that there is a very real Possibility that ET's have visited before??
If you really think about it and look at what is out there and what has been discovered then you should find that it is far from wild fantasy. I guess I am just a stupid dreamer.
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Re: Ancient Aliens is a five part series!!!! [Re: DeadHearts]
#12471229 - 04/28/10 12:09 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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OK, I'll give you that it's a possibility.
The thing in this particular example is though that there are more reasonable and probable explanations. Do we know 100% for a fact that aliens didn't draw all those lines in the sand blow the tops off mountains, or instruct the humans how to do it? No. But considering we have an alternative and much more likely scenerio (geometry, basic survey and geology) why would we spend so much time on thinking aliens were involved?
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Re: Ancient Aliens is a five part series!!!! [Re: ShockValue]
#12471280 - 04/28/10 12:14 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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haha probability is pretty subjective.
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Re: Ancient Aliens is a five part series!!!! [Re: DeadHearts]
#12472015 - 04/28/10 02:31 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Humans should not be underestimated true. But for the people of the past to have built what they built is nothing short of amazing. If we knew how they built the pyramids then there would be no room for speculation. These people are not just pulling shit out of their ass.
You're absolutely right, what they did with nothing more than rocks, sticks, and simple metallurgy was pretty amazing. Unfortunately for you, there ISN'T any room for speculation. Those 'alien experts' ARE pulling shit out of there asses.
ACTUAL EGYPTOLOGISTS who spent their entire lives excavating sites, studying the pyramids, and learning about ancient building techniques, discovered how they were built and who did it.
Now, are you going to tell me, that some crack-pot who's never even been to the pyramids, can't understand hieroglyphs, and has no concept of ancient building techniques, knows how they were built?
Fucking nonsense.
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Re: Ancient Aliens is a five part series!!!! [Re: Sunny]
#12472052 - 04/28/10 02:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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i think you mean claim to have discovered how. just b/c that's what they say doesnt necessarily make it so.
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Re: Ancient Aliens is a five part series!!!! [Re: Olympus Mons]
#12472060 - 04/28/10 02:39 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Ancient Aliens is a five part series!!!! [Re: Envix]
#12472273 - 04/28/10 03:17 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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I seriously doubt the people who are talking shit actually watched the show
you have to way out of your way to not be able to consider it a possibility, because the evidence IS there
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Re: Ancient Aliens is a five part series!!!! [Re: morrowasted]
#12472491 - 04/28/10 04:13 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Olympus Mons said: i think you mean claim to have discovered how. just b/c that's what they say doesnt necessarily make it so.

Holy fuck, what planet do you live on?
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you have to way out of your way to not be able to consider it a possibility, because the evidence IS there
What evidence?

Look; I consider it a mathematical impossibility that we are alone in the universe. The place is just to fucking big for earth to be the only place harboring sentient life.
I must, however, object to unsubstantiated arguments that sentient life forms engineered structures, or geography on Earth, when there is gobs of evidence to the contrary.
It's a fantasy at best, and a delusion at worst.
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Re: Ancient Aliens is a five part series!!!! [Re: Sunny]
#12472502 - 04/28/10 04:15 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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What evidence?
I'm guessing you didn't see the episode
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Re: Ancient Aliens is a five part series!!!! [Re: morrowasted]
#12472505 - 04/28/10 04:16 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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*Camera zooms in on petroglyph*
Narrator/spokesman: "I believe that cross represents the Pleides star system."
And that folks, is about as convincing as it gets.
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Re: Ancient Aliens is a five part series!!!! [Re: Sunny]
#12472516 - 04/28/10 04:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sunny said: I must, however, object to unsubstantiated arguments that sentient life forms engineered structures, or geography on Earth, when there is gobs of evidence to the contrary.
I like you.
Actually. I like most of the people in this thread.
I guess what I should say is. You're the only one making any sense.
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Re: Ancient Aliens is a five part series!!!! [Re: morrowasted]
#12472536 - 04/28/10 04:23 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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my 2 cents: i watched this a couple weeks ago when i accidentally stumbled across it. i also cannot understand how people are able to completely dismiss these ideas and say "oh well the scientists that study these things have totally figured everything out, anyone else that comes up with any other theory is WRONG!". that is the textbook definition of a closed mind. if you are not even willing to discuss different possiblities well... i also suspect that most of these naysayers have probably not even watched the video. i'm sure some of you have heard of graham hancock, he has some very interesting things to say about these ancient civilization. i think there definitely IS alot of missing information regarding the ancient structures in how and why they were made and closing the book on this is an insult to search for understanding.
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Re: Ancient Aliens is a five part series!!!! [Re: morrowasted]
#12472541 - 04/28/10 04:24 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: I seriously doubt the people who are talking shit actually watched the show
you have to way out of your way to not be able to consider it a possibility, because the evidence IS there
i watched the episode and it does point out some pretty good evidence. Buut im alittle skeptical, but im skeptical of everything, because i dont know anything for sure. No one does.
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Re: Ancient Aliens is a five part series!!!! [Re: hello_im_alex]
#12472555 - 04/28/10 04:28 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Im open to whatever people throw at me, its usually more interesting than the Biblical Jesus idea
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Re: Ancient Aliens is a five part series!!!! [Re: Sunny]
#12472567 - 04/28/10 04:33 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Olympus Mons said: i think you mean claim to have discovered how. just b/c that's what they say doesnt necessarily make it so.

Holy fuck, what planet do you live on?
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you have to way out of your way to not be able to consider it a possibility, because the evidence IS there
What evidence?

Look; I consider it a mathematical impossibility that we are alone in the universe. The place is just to fucking big for earth to be the only place harboring sentient life.
I must, however, object to unsubstantiated arguments that sentient life forms engineered structures, or geography on Earth, when there is gobs of evidence to the contrary.
It's a fantasy at best, and a delusion at worst.
this is what makes it obvious that you did not watch the show. it never suggests that extraterrestrials built the structures on out planet
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