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 is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor 
#12449247 - 04/24/10 12:42 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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i like to buy stuff (clothing/books/records) at salvation army and places like that and i don't consider myself poor, but can't really afford to go anywhere else for clothing and such. sometimes i feel this is unethical because maybe someone else would have really liked that copy of a hemingway book or whatever.
what do you think?
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 Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: scoredon]
#12449256 - 04/24/10 12:43 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you can't afford to shop anywhere else, where will you shop?
I use to steal from the back of Goodwill, but that's not like really stealing.
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: nasem]
#12449274 - 04/24/10 12:47 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: nasem]
#12449277 - 04/24/10 12:48 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Buying from thrift stores is not unethical. There is no shortage of used material in the world as far as I can tell.
Stealing from goodwill, now that's a different story 
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: nasem]
#12449283 - 04/24/10 12:49 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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I love yard sales i just never get up early enough on a saturday and sometimes they're kind of awkward.
it would also be cooler to directly help someones else with the money i spend and that leads me to wonder how much of the salvation army/goodwills income goes directly to helping the community instead of just maintaining the stores.
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: nasem]
#12449288 - 04/24/10 12:49 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
nasem said:
I use to steal from the back of Goodwill, but that's not like really stealing.
It is really a jail they take you to.
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: lukeboots]
#12449294 - 04/24/10 12:50 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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I used to rob hundreds of dollars worth of merchandise from The Gap every day.
EDIT: just kidding duh
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: scoredon]
#12449298 - 04/24/10 12:50 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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The maintenance of the stores directly helps the community...
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: lukeboots]
#12449354 - 04/24/10 01:00 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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thrift stores employ alot of people that other businesses wouldn't even consider. how many times have you gone into a goodwill and were greeted by a "special" person. i'd say alot. "special" people like to have normal lives just like you and me, however they can't maintain that normality if they get ostracized everywhere they go. if only dirt dirt poor shop at thrifts, than their employee numbers would drop, they wouldn't maintain and rotate the stock that they have, the general maintenance and appearance would drop, then sales would start dropping because the classy dirt dirt poor would stop shopping.
thrift stores are amazing over all for communities. keep shopping.
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: scoredon]
#12449370 - 04/24/10 01:02 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Neither groups is setup just to sell used stuff. When you buy from Salvation Army or Goodwill you are helping those organizations fund their community/social goals. Reselling donated goods is how they build capital to operate. With these stores you then get the added benefit of helping reuse products and provide low-cost retail alternatives.
I just got back from the local Goodwill. I bought a $10 Eureka backpack that would have cost $150+ new. It looks like it might have been used once or twice.
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: blackstatis]
#12451026 - 04/24/10 07:39 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
lukeboots said:
The maintenance of the stores directly helps the community...
i didnt even think of thatQuote:
blackstatis said:
thrift stores employ alot of people that other businesses wouldn't even consider. how many times have you gone into a goodwill and were greeted by a "special" person. i'd say alot. "special" people like to have normal lives just like you and me, however they can't maintain that normality if they get ostracized everywhere they go. if only dirt dirt poor shop at thrifts, than their employee numbers would drop, they wouldn't maintain and rotate the stock that they have, the general maintenance and appearance would drop, then sales would start dropping because the classy dirt dirt poor would stop shopping.
thrift stores are amazing over all for communities. keep shopping.
very true
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: scoredon]
#12452184 - 04/25/10 01:49 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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A thrift store is a curious situation whereby the solution helps sustain the problem.
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: Arden]
#12452701 - 04/25/10 08:15 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Arden said:Quote:
A thrift store is a curious situation whereby the solution helps sustain the problem.
What do you mean by that?
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: HippieChick8]
#12743929 - 06/14/10 08:50 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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I shop there.
Another thing to consider is,
that it could very well be degrading for dirt poor people to shop in a place where they knew only dirt poor people had to shop.
Plus, whats already been said. Ther's no shortage of used items.
In fact, i've turned in my hollister clothes to the salvation army in an attempt much like the "prince and the pauper".
I don't like labels. Stereotype, or otherwise. But thats irrelevent and niether here, nor there.
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: scoredon]
#12745827 - 06/15/10 09:00 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
scoredon said:
i like to buy stuff (clothing/books/records) at salvation army and places like that and i don't consider myself poor, but can't really afford to go anywhere else for clothing and such. sometimes i feel this is unethical because maybe someone else would have really liked that copy of a hemingway book or whatever.
what do you think?
I think that unless you propose a system of ethics that isn't relative you have no hope of answering this question.
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: scoredon]
#12746329 - 06/15/10 11:21 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
i like to buy stuff (clothing/books/records) at salvation army and places like that and i don't consider myself poor, but can't really afford to go anywhere else for clothing and such. sometimes i feel this is unethical because maybe someone else would have really liked that copy of a hemingway book or whatever.
what do you think?
Despite being aimed at a low income bracket and various community service programs it's still a business, a thrift store, they'll have no problem taking your money for clothing they likely were given for free. I don't see where ethics comes into this, of course your business is welcome, as long as there is new clothing there will always be old clothing to resell.
If you have that much of an issue with it make an effort to donate the old clothing you don't use and give back to the system or something. Keep in mind you're supporting them and they're supporting the poor community, it seems like you could easily spin that in an ethically positive fashion if it mattered to you.
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: Tropism]
#12750424 - 06/16/10 12:07 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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I buy plenty of items from Thrift stores and regularly burn them so they become unavailable. Those welfare rats need to get a job and stop sucking off the public teat.
Life is pain. Anyone who says differently is selling something.
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#12752184 - 06/16/10 11:59 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mr. Mushrooms said:
I buy plenty of items from Thrift stores and regularly burn them so they become unavailable. Those welfare rats need to get a job and stop sucking off the public teat.
Life is pain. Anyone who says differently is selling something.
Are you serious?
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: Southern Smoke]
#12752375 - 06/16/10 12:45 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sad ain't it.
Goodwill doesn't set out to provide people with cheap clothes. They want to raise money to provide job training to people, so there is no requirement to be poor if you shop there.
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: Southern Smoke]
#12752403 - 06/16/10 12:50 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Southern Smoke said:
Are you serious?
Hardly. A friend of mine wanted to buy shoes for her Teddy bears at a thrift store. I asked her if she realized that poor people who can't afford shoes for their kids would not be able to buy the shoes after she bought them. It didn't stop her though.
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: Dr. Zaius]
#12753689 - 06/16/10 05:01 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Dr. Zaius said:
Goodwill doesn't set out to provide people with cheap clothes. They want to raise money to provide job training to people, so there is no requirement to be poor if you shop there.
Thats something I realize, most t-shirts are like 4 dollars still, seems like the organization could do better for people who reALly need it.
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#12753909 - 06/16/10 05:47 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mr. Mushrooms said:
A friend of mine wanted to buy shoes for her Teddy bears at a thrift store. I asked her if she realized that poor people who can't afford shoes for their kids would not be able to buy the shoes after she bought them.
I hope everybody here realizes how fucking retarded this quote is.
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Re: is it ethical to shop at thrift stores if youre not poor [Re: Poid]
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