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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: Icelander]
    #12637240 - 05/27/10 11:17 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

How about encouraging people to leave?

The police can go around looking for legal citizens and then deport them if their eco-footprint is too large.


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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: Lakefingers]
    #12637258 - 05/27/10 11:22 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #12637889 - 05/27/10 01:23 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Eco footprint?  You mean like this?
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/a/Arizona-Desert-Trash.htm




I think he means Al Gore.


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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: Lakefingers]
    #12637944 - 05/27/10 01:31 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Lakefingers said:
How about encouraging people to leave?

The police can go around looking for legal citizens and then deport them if their eco-footprint is too large.




I'd be the only one left. :sad: After the cops had deported themselves.:lol:

It's basically an enforced law around the world that you can't be in a foreign country without permission of that country. That should be the end of the story.


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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #12638426 - 05/27/10 02:59 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Eco footprint?  You mean like this?
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/a/Arizona-Desert-Trash.htm




I think he means Al Gore.



Or maybe Thomas Friedman, confessed totalitarian fascist and eco-hog
http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/07/25/thomas-friedman-keeping-up-with-the-saudis/


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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: Icelander]
    #12638449 - 05/27/10 03:02 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Icelander said:
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Lakefingers said:
How about encouraging people to leave?

The police can go around looking for legal citizens and then deport them if their eco-footprint is too large.




I'd be the only one left. :sad: After the cops had deported themselves.:lol:

It's basically an enforced law around the world that you can't be in a foreign country without permission of that country. That should be the end of the story.



It is a sad commentary on the state of leftist idiocy that it is not.

We should just enact the exact same border laws as Mexico.  Or, better yet, North Korea  (I keed, I keed.  About Korea, anyway).


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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #12638808 - 05/27/10 03:48 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

We agree.:thumbup: The Universe is in perfect balance.:grin:


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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: Icelander]
    #12639404 - 05/27/10 05:18 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I'm white and live in AZ, this law is fucking moronic. Do you think putting illegals in jail for 6 months and charging 2500 is really gonna help the problem? Sheriff Joe is behind this and he is an annoying racist idiot fuck. I say let the hard working illegals get easier citizenship, but kick the gangsters back to mexico. Legalize drugs and reduce the corruption over the border so they dont have to run to the US out of fear. WE ARE PART OF THE REASON WHY MEXICO IS SO FUCKED UP. OUR SOLUTION IS TO SEND FUCKING ARMED TROOPS AND OR MONEY TO MEXICO. WHY NOT CUT OFF THEIR GOD DAMN CASH SUPPLY BY LEGALIZING AND REGULATING DRUGS.

All you supporters are fucking elitist idiots. If you let our gov fuck with Mexicans, what is next? I hope you dont think it will stop at just that. The gov doesnt need more power. I happen to like Mexican people more than elitist whites.


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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: utk]
    #12639435 - 05/27/10 05:23 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

In spite of your limited world view Mexicans are not the only illegal immigrant problem.  Not by a long shot.


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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: utk]
    #12640108 - 05/27/10 07:17 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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utk said:
I'm white and live in AZ, this law is fucking moronic. Do you think putting illegals in jail for 6 months and charging 2500 is really gonna help the problem? Sheriff Joe is behind this and he is an annoying racist idiot fuck. I say let the hard working illegals get easier citizenship, but kick the gangsters back to mexico. Legalize drugs and reduce the corruption over the border so they dont have to run to the US out of fear. WE ARE PART OF THE REASON WHY MEXICO IS SO FUCKED UP. OUR SOLUTION IS TO SEND FUCKING ARMED TROOPS AND OR MONEY TO MEXICO. WHY NOT CUT OFF THEIR GOD DAMN CASH SUPPLY BY LEGALIZING AND REGULATING DRUGS.

All you supporters are fucking elitist idiots. If you let our gov fuck with Mexicans, what is next? I hope you dont think it will stop at just that. The gov doesnt need more power. I happen to like Mexican people more than elitist whites.



Just like Zapp said Mexicans aren't the only illegals. I agree with this law, and I'm not an elitist white. You are a very racist person.


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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: utk]
    #12640150 - 05/27/10 07:22 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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utk said:
I'm white and live in AZ, this law is fucking moronic. Do you think putting illegals in jail for 6 months and charging 2500 is really gonna help the problem? Sheriff Joe is behind this and he is an annoying racist idiot fuck. I say let the hard working illegals get easier citizenship, but kick the gangsters back to mexico. Legalize drugs and reduce the corruption over the border so they dont have to run to the US out of fear. WE ARE PART OF THE REASON WHY MEXICO IS SO FUCKED UP. OUR SOLUTION IS TO SEND FUCKING ARMED TROOPS AND OR MONEY TO MEXICO. WHY NOT CUT OFF THEIR GOD DAMN CASH SUPPLY BY LEGALIZING AND REGULATING DRUGS.

All you supporters are fucking elitist idiots. If you let our gov fuck with Mexicans, what is next? I hope you dont think it will stop at just that. The gov doesnt need more power. I happen to like Mexican people more than elitist whites.





The one thing I do agree with you one is that these drugs should be legalized and a lot of problems would go away. But not all of them.

But calling Icelander an elitist is really a hoot.

I like Hispanics just fine for the most part. More than I would like you I'm betting. :wink:


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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: Icelander]
    #12640780 - 05/27/10 09:07 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I do find this a little disturbing. Someone care to address it.


http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2010/05/03/arizonas-immigration-law-is-constitutionally-troubling/

While a number of Republican supporters of the Arizona law claim that its provisions would come into play only after a police officer had lawfully stopped an individual for another offense, the clear language of the law says otherwise.  Under it, an officer need only have “lawful contact” with a person – which can be something as innocuous as passing them on the sidewalk – to provide the officer the justification to demand the person produce papers establishing their lawful status in the United States.  The only predicate then required, is that the officer have a “reasonable suspicion” the person is an unlawful alien – based on what, the statute does not say.


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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: utk]
    #12641985 - 05/27/10 11:47 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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utk said:
I'm white and live in AZ, this law is fucking moronic. Do you think putting illegals in jail for 6 months and charging 2500 is really gonna help the problem? Sheriff Joe is behind this and he is an annoying racist idiot fuck. I say let the hard working illegals get easier citizenship, but kick the gangsters back to mexico. Legalize drugs and reduce the corruption over the border so they dont have to run to the US out of fear. WE ARE PART OF THE REASON WHY MEXICO IS SO FUCKED UP. OUR SOLUTION IS TO SEND FUCKING ARMED TROOPS AND OR MONEY TO MEXICO. WHY NOT CUT OFF THEIR GOD DAMN CASH SUPPLY BY LEGALIZING AND REGULATING DRUGS.

All you supporters are fucking elitist idiots. If you let our gov fuck with Mexicans, what is next? I hope you dont think it will stop at just that. The gov doesnt need more power. I happen to like Mexican people more than elitist whites.




there is another sickening pattern apparent in the new AZ law.. substituting necessary regulation of big business with harsh govt action against individual liberties...illegal immigrants dont cause illegal immigration.. business that use them do...but govt interference in corporate affairs is nothing short of blasphemous to the teabagger twits...so rather than going after business that exploit illegal labour.. they instead resort to things like racial profiling and building a berlin wall on the border...


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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: Icelander]
    #12643487 - 05/28/10 05:21 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Icelander said:
I do find this a little disturbing. Someone care to address it.


http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2010/05/03/arizonas-immigration-law-is-constitutionally-troubling/

While a number of Republican supporters of the Arizona law claim that its provisions would come into play only after a police officer had lawfully stopped an individual for another offense, the clear language of the law says otherwise.  Under it, an officer need only have “lawful contact” with a person – which can be something as innocuous as passing them on the sidewalk – to provide the officer the justification to demand the person produce papers establishing their lawful status in the United States.  The only predicate then required, is that the officer have a “reasonable suspicion” the person is an unlawful alien – based on what, the statute does not say.




So can we ask them to wear stars if their noses are too big? How about bowler hats if they look too mestizo, even if demonstrating citizenship?


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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: Icelander]
    #12643994 - 05/28/10 10:15 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I believe the provisions that blogger is concerned about, i.e. "lawful contact", were changed in the final bill and significantly narrowed.


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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: Lakefingers]
    #12645638 - 05/28/10 04:06 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Icelander said:
I do find this a little disturbing. Someone care to address it.


http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2010/05/03/arizonas-immigration-law-is-constitutionally-troubling/

While a number of Republican supporters of the Arizona law claim that its provisions would come into play only after a police officer had lawfully stopped an individual for another offense, the clear language of the law says otherwise.  Under it, an officer need only have %u201Clawful contact%u201D with a person %u2013 which can be something as innocuous as passing them on the sidewalk %u2013 to provide the officer the justification to demand the person produce papers establishing their lawful status in the United States.  The only predicate then required, is that the officer have a %u201Creasonable suspicion%u201D the person is an unlawful alien %u2013 based on what, the statute does not say.



I would only care to discuss or adress this if the text is pointed in the law. You know a page number, and line number. Anything else is partisian rhetoric.
Here is the bill
http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf
Can you show us anything in the bill

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So can we ask them to wear stars if their noses are too big? How about bowler hats if they look too mestizo, even if demonstrating citizenship?




We both know there isn't anything like that in this bill.

Here is the bill
http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf

I know you liberals like making stuff up, since actually taking about the facts of a stituation usually makes you look pretty stupid.

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there is another sickening pattern apparent in the new AZ law.. substituting necessary regulation of big business with harsh govt action against individual liberties...illegal immigrants dont cause illegal immigration.. business that use them do...but govt interference in corporate affairs is nothing short of blasphemous to the teabagger twits...so rather than going after business that exploit illegal labour.. they instead resort to things like racial profiling and building a berlin wall on the border...




Can you point to anything that is in the bill itself. You know like a page number, a line number that allows racial profiling, or building a wall on the border.I've been waiting?

Here is the Bill
http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf

Oh whats that right, you can't. Your arguements only rely on rhetoric, because they have no basis in fact.

I know you liberal like making things up, but it's hard to argue with facts.



And the overwhelming majority of legal American Citzens agree this bill, and want the illegals the fuck out. That's just a fact.

I was worried at first that this bill would prompt the leftist thugs that are running our country to push for amnesty. Which would have in effect been selling our right to vote to illeagals (people who shouldn't been her in the first place), so that they could secure more leftists votes, and try to dominate our countries politics with there facist quasi-socialist agenda.

But I feel some relief though. Obama is far to concerned with the elections in November, and getting himself reelected in the next presidential campian to touch this. Those leftis thugs know that immigration is a losing battle for them. And their goint to loose a good majority of power this November. Mark my words


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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: Simplicitry]
    #12646054 - 05/28/10 05:18 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

So concerned, in fact, that he is sending a crack team of cosmeticians to fill out paperwork somewhere near the border.  What a fucking mensch.  I'm so proud.


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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: Lakefingers]
    #12647267 - 05/28/10 08:55 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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How about encouraging people to leave?






isnt that precisely what this law is doing, encouraging illegals to leave the country or at least the state of Arizona


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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #12647640 - 05/28/10 10:22 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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they instead resort to things like racial profiling and building a berlin wall on the border...




you made no mention of land mines or machine guns


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Re: AZ passes racist immigration law... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #12647988 - 05/28/10 11:45 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

thats what comes next...


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