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Holy fuck. Serious business. Serious, serious business in here.
#12432435 - 04/21/10 02:36 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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So, my best friend just came over here...his sister got fucking raped last night. Shes stupid, and invited over some kid she only knew for 10 minutes. They fooled around, and she said "no"...he said "too bad". She cried, he threw her out and took off.
She doesn't even know his last name or where he lives.
So, my friend doesn't know what to do. She cried her story to him...she wants him to go beat the shit out of him. She doesn't want to involve the police or her parents. He came here to see who is down if some shit needs to fly. He KNOWS I have to be there for him...but I don't want it to come to that. I want him to just tell the police like he needs to. This kid needs justice...if not some street justice, than the law system.
I'm just hoping my friend will do the right thing and just tell his mom about all this. I'm 20, shes 18, hes 19, and the rapist was 19.
The worst part is...I don't want to fucking be involved in this at all. They were at a house drinking, and I had NOTHING to do with it. I was nowhere near by. BUT, she does talk to me on my cell phone, etc. I've never talked about anything illegal (other than her asking me to smoke, and me telling her I was going to get high)...but I'm worried they are going to look back through her phone and come to get me I did say something around the lines of "you can't bring others over here. theres more going on than you realize", because I have a few plants upstairs. I don't want to go to prison for 5 years because this bitch decided to bring me into her problems. She hasn't smoked in like a year, and the other night I DID smoke with her. Sometimes I joke around like 'I'm fucking my friends sister!' but I've never even fooled around with her.
This thread is focused more on MY security than what to do about it. I know damn well this is something the police need to be brought into...theres certain things that need street justice (drug deals gone bad, etc) but something like this the court system has been DESIGNED TO DEAL WITH. I know that, so please don't only comment on that part of my post.
She WAS being stupid I don't deny that at all. She always puts herself in terrible situations like this, and it was really only a matter of time until it happened. The thing is, she was telling me earlier that week "I'm sick of being good, I'm going to have sex at that party this weekend"...so she did set out to fool around, at least. She started in with him and then he kept going when she said no. I know that is date rape.
I'm sorry this post is all over the place but suddenly I'm involved with some serious shit and I don't even know what to do. I'm fucking paniced here and I just hope that I am safe from the police coming to get me for my marijuana plants and shit.
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Re: Holy fuck. Serious business. Serious, serious business in here. [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12432539 - 04/21/10 02:52 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh fuck, great. She just texted me "I'm not calling the cops". Now she knows I know.
Fuck I hate this stupid cunt.
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Re: Holy fuck. Serious business. Serious, serious business in here. [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12432551 - 04/21/10 02:55 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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sucks.....really really does. not ur fault thou...
i would go with my buddy to look for him in the car. if u find him shove a broom stick up his ass and stomp his face. my 2cents
oh and tell her she is a dumbass for getting into that situation.
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#12432583 - 04/21/10 02:59 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Now she sent me "I've dealt with this b4"...ugh what a stupid cunt.
I told her "if you don't tell your mother, you're both dumber than I thought. thats all I have to say".
Got one back "I'm not telling her."
Fuck it. Shes that stupid fucking let her be. I better not get involved. Thats all.
Fuck I hate fucking stupid people.
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Re: Holy fuck. Serious business. Serious, serious business in here. [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12432712 - 04/21/10 03:16 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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OK. She told me "you or him aren't going to tell the cops!", so I told her "I'm not fuckin going near a cop. I'm not helping you two come to a conclusion, thats up to you two. I'm not part of the choosing, but I'll be part of the solution if i have to."
Leaving it at that I guess. BUT AM I IN DANGER?
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Re: Holy fuck. Serious business. Serious, serious business in here. [Re: Anonymous #1]
#12432984 - 04/21/10 04:09 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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but I'm worried they are going to look back through her phone and come to get me
Never send incriminating text messages.
Always immediately delete any that you receive.
If you accidentally send one, delete it from your sent messages.
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Oh fuck, great. She just texted me "I'm not calling the cops".
That might be a good thing. From your post its very unclear what actually happened. If he held her down and put his dick in her while she was screaming no, that would be really bad. But the truth is probably much more complicated.
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"I'm sick of being good, I'm going to have sex at that party this weekend".
Seems as though she got what she wanted, sort of.
If I was her I would try to forget that any of this happened.
Dude doesn't seem like a serial rapist, its probably just some random guy from a party. Its not like he found her in a parking lot and grabbed her. They were going back and fourth and it turned sour. That sucks but probably not an issue for law enforcement.
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#12433032 - 04/21/10 04:17 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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They went to fool around, she said "OK thats enough", he said "NOPE." and fucked her while she cried. Then kicked her (literally kicked her) out of the bed...
She was at her girlfriends house who called up some boy they didn't even really know. They brought over beer and shit to their party house, and the girls asked them to leave because it was bedtime. Then he said 'go upstairs' to her so she did. Then they fooled around, and she said she didn't want to have sex, but he did it anyway.
Thats rape bro.
She said she doesn't want us to tell anyone or to tell her mom.
I don't know...I told them I don't want to be part of the solution unless I have to, and haven't heard from either one since.
Yes, its her fault for being in that situation, but its his fault for fucking her while she cried "no".
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#12433050 - 04/21/10 04:20 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thats rape bro.
Hmm yea sounds like rape.
Good thing you aren't involved.
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#12433139 - 04/21/10 04:38 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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If it really went down like she said it did then then i dont understand why the police getting involved would be a problem. She should go to the police. I mean anon #1 doesn't need to get involved at all. Just give your opinion, offer support, but otherwise what more can you be expected to do? .
Everyone is so paranoid in this forum but I guess it comes with the territory. People should chill out about the texting thing. I agree that its not good practice but your not gonna drop dead if its happened before. Im not saying text unlimited incriminating texts either but if you did send some they are not going to just come get you. For every 1 person you know paranoid about texting, there are probably more than 50 more that don't care. At all. How do people think it goes down?
Cop: We didn't find anything on you but you said "ololol wan 2 smoke sum bud???" in a text last October so your coming with us.
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Re: Holy fuck. Serious business. Serious, serious business in here. [Re: DankDee]
#12433349 - 04/21/10 05:18 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Haha thank you that made me lol.
And shes afraid it will "ruin her life" if everyone knows she was raped.
Holy fuck what an idiot. I guess its her problem not mine.
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#12434251 - 04/21/10 08:26 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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> Thats rape bro.
No, it's not. With what you mentioned about what she said she will loose in court.
Weather that's right or wrong that's the facts.
The truth is probably that she regretted it after the fact and now wants to fuck the dude over.
Your best bet is to tell her to leave it alone. In the end she can do whatever she wants with the law, but the guy will not get convicted. She fooled around with him and took him to a bedroom. Just because she cried as he shoved his cock in her doesn't make it rape. It will be her word against him. And if she tells the truth he won't be convicted and it will only be a painful ordeal for her. It will leave her tainted and people will either believe that she's a slutty lier or that she is a cock tease that didn't really say know when it went too far.
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#12434346 - 04/21/10 08:42 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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If someone plays with a can of gas around a fire, they might start on fire, and if they do - I don't feel sorry for them. She got was she was asking for, and noone should have to deal with that, but the person playing with the gas - all bullshit aside.
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#12434366 - 04/21/10 08:46 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was also going to mention what the above poster did, a lot of girls have consensual sex with assholes, and when they regret it they call it rape - simply because the asshole fits the profile. Tell her to quit wobblimg around parties like a drunk slut, and the ratio of her not getting raped to her getting raped will greatly increase.
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#12434924 - 04/21/10 10:26 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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No one deserves to raped and no one should have to curb their behaviour in fear of being raped. Clearly, the only person in the wrong is the person forcing another person to have sex. Stop blaming the victim, it's disgusting.
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#12435001 - 04/21/10 10:40 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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How do you really know its rape? Ever heard of a chick putting a mark on herself, so she can get her boyfriend / husband hauled off by cops?
And yes, if I am stupid enough to walk through a ghetto I might get my ass kicked - I accept the fact I have to walk around it to not get my ass kicked.
That's reality, welcome to earth.
Edited by c1dh3d (04/21/10 10:53 PM)
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Re: Holy fuck. Serious business. Serious, serious business in here. [Re: c1dh3d] 1
#12436210 - 04/22/10 06:05 AM (14 years, 30 days ago) |
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They went to fool around, she said "OK thats enough", he said "NOPE." and fucked her while she cried. Then kicked her (literally kicked her) out of the bed...
Nowhere in this statement does it seem to be rape. Crying during sex doesn't make it rape.
Nowhere do you mention that she resisted or screamed for help.
In a real rape the victim physically resists and calls for help. The rapist then beats the victim into submission and forces himself on her. Alternately he uses a gun or knife to threaten the victim into submission. He then flees the scene.
The reality is that rape is a violent and difficult act. A woman's life has to be threatened with a weapon or be beaten into submission. If a man isn't willing to go that far it's almost impossible to physically perform the act. All the woman has to do is squirm around enough to avoid getting penetrated.
What is seems here is that a slutty cock tease came across an asshole that aggressively went after sex. She may *feel* like she got raped, but she certainly was not. She likely thought he was too aggressive and was an asshole for kicking her out of bed right after.
The reality is that it doesn't seem she resisted or screamed for help. If she had it sounds like people would have come to help. In court this is a very good defense. It's pretty unlikely he could be successfully prosecuted in this case. Her testimony sounds like it would be that she said no to the fooling around when it went too far, then whimpered as he stuck his cock in her. That isn't going to be enough for a rape charge.
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#12436277 - 04/22/10 06:43 AM (14 years, 30 days ago) |
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Well, thats pretty wrong, and I'm going to beat the fuck out of him then.
I don't care if its rape or not. If a girl tells you no, that fucking means no. That should be rape. Its date rape at least, and I'm very sure thats still illegal.
And no, its not just because she regretted it. She regrets every boy she sleeps with because they all treat her like shit and shes a fucking slut. But, this one took it too far and forced something on her she said no to. "Crying during sex doesn't mean its rape"? Yeah, maybe if you're into some shit like that...but thats not what was going on at all, so thats a retarded argument.
This is the same girl who had sex with a dude who nutted on her stomach, said "thats gross", and left her sitting in a house. Shes really stupid and allows people to use her, but she shouldn't have to be raped. Any guy can fool around and say "oh, ok, thats enough". This faggot took it too far, and will get some kind of punishment for what he did wrong.
If the law won't do anything, I will.
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#12436840 - 04/22/10 10:02 AM (14 years, 30 days ago) |
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You don't know what happened or what was really said. All the facts point to the fact that she wasn't raped.
If you don't want to have sex with someone then don't go in a bedroom, fool around, then spread your legs and let them fuck you. Apparently that's what she did.
Just because she mumbled something during foreplay about stopping and then cried as he fucked her doesn't mean she was raped.
Did she actually say no as he was putting his penis in her? Or did she tell him to stop or get off her as he was fucking her? If she didn't then it's not rape.
Since you'll never know for sure exactly what was said you and everyone else has to go by the facts. And the facts indicate that she didn't resist or call for help. And from what you've said it's not clear if she actually even said no or told him to stop the sex. Just cause you say no at some point during foreplay doesn't mean you're saying no to sex. He could have easily interpreted it to mean for him to stop whatever he was specifically doing, and sex sometimes hurts for girls which could explain the crying.
It would be really stupid for you to get in trouble trying to get revenge for someone who wouldn't even make the slightest effort to avoid things in the first place. Just tell her she should have screamed or resisted and since she didn't it's not rape.
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Re: Holy fuck. Serious business. Serious, serious business in here. [Re: Anonymous #3]
#12437619 - 04/22/10 12:25 PM (14 years, 30 days ago) |
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Anonymous said: You don't know what happened or what was really said. All the facts point to the fact that she wasn't raped.
If you don't want to have sex with someone then don't go in a bedroom, fool around, then spread your legs and let them fuck you. Apparently that's what she did.
Just because she mumbled something during foreplay about stopping and then cried as he fucked her doesn't mean she was raped.
Did she actually say no as he was putting his penis in her? Or did she tell him to stop or get off her as he was fucking her? If she didn't then it's not rape.
Since you'll never know for sure exactly what was said you and everyone else has to go by the facts. And the facts indicate that she didn't resist or call for help. And from what you've said it's not clear if she actually even said no or told him to stop the sex. Just cause you say no at some point during foreplay doesn't mean you're saying no to sex. He could have easily interpreted it to mean for him to stop whatever he was specifically doing, and sex sometimes hurts for girls which could explain the crying.
It would be really stupid for you to get in trouble trying to get revenge for someone who wouldn't even make the slightest effort to avoid things in the first place. Just tell her she should have screamed or resisted and since she didn't it's not rape.
100% agreed.
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#12439515 - 04/22/10 05:59 PM (14 years, 30 days ago) |
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its disturbing that you people seem to KNOW it wasnt rape because you seem to think that just because some women lie about rape that all women lie about rape. This is clear cut rape. You ppl have to be trolling...? or covering guilt from being the guy in a similar situation??
c1d and anon 3, #1 you assume that she is lying and #2 you feel like you somehow know what happened better than the people in the situation... Why should you just disregard everything you have heard about the story (other than the small chunks that help your logic (your "facts": namely alcohol and your apparent distrust of woman )) and just assume it was consensual and she just regrets it??
Sure ive met plenty of woman that lie about it but you can't just assume all woman that say they got raped are lying. Even if 95% of woman lie about rape (ridiculous figure) than she should still be treated as if she is in the 5% that don't lie unless your absolutely positive. Dont just assume all woman lie about rape.
When someone doesn't want sex, and it is physically forced upon them or they are threatened into preforming that sex, it is rape. No means no. No does not mean "its ok to rape a girl because they were fooling around", She will regret not going to the police in this situation (yes going to the police can be helpful at times ).
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