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Re: Serious Hitler question [Re: dif]
#12432754 - 04/21/10 03:21 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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dif said: dont forget Idi Amin , Pol Pot and Robert Mugabe.
America, Australia and Britain arent entirely sqeaky clean either our histories have quite a bit of blood on them.
We just did our ethnic cleansing earlier and without the use of gas chambers....ours were much more brutal.
what
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Re: Serious Hitler question [Re: deCypher] 1
#12432918 - 04/21/10 03:57 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mr. Cypher said:
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dif said: dont forget Idi Amin , Pol Pot and Robert Mugabe.
America, Australia and Britain arent entirely sqeaky clean either our histories have quite a bit of blood on them.
We just did our ethnic cleansing earlier and without the use of gas chambers....ours were much more brutal.
what
I believe he is referring to the Native Americans/Austrailians and the various peoples Britain has slaughtered over the centuries. I dunno about them being more or less brutal though.
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Re: Serious Hitler question [Re: dif]
#12433606 - 04/21/10 06:06 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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dont forget Poid Pot.
Mexi brick weed?
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As Adolph Eichmann, 'accountant' of the Final Solution once said, "Adolph Hitler is my conscience." So the evil embodied in the demonic vision of Hitler is ontologically prior to its actualization through the subservient demons of the inner circle of the Third Reich: Himmler, Heidrich, Hess, Goring, Goebbels, et al.
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MarkostheGnostic said: As Adolph Eichmann, 'accountant' of the Final Solution once said, "Adolph Hitler is my conscience."
perhaps you adopt too much of an absolutist moral perspective, considering Eichmann was raised given his particular time and culture
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Re: Serious Hitler question [Re: deCypher]
#12434372 - 04/21/10 08:47 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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'Evil is as evil does.' - The Tao of Gump
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word bro
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Re: Serious Hitler question [Re: sorahtak]
#12436083 - 04/22/10 04:40 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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sorahtak said:
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Mr. Cypher said:
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dif said: don't forget Idi Amin , Pol Pot and Robert Mugabe.
America, Australia and Britain aren't entirely squeaky clean either our histories have quite a bit of blood on them.
We just did our ethnic cleansing earlier and without the use of gas chambers....ours were much more brutal.
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I believe he is referring to the Native Americans/Australians and the various peoples Britain has slaughtered over the centuries. I dunno about them being more or less brutal though.
yep that's what i was saying and they were all very brutal.
I think some people on this thread would benefit from reading and not just getting their information from CNN or the history channel, then once you've read, think about it. Consider the source of your information and explore opposing views. Somewhere in the middle of all that is the facts.
cheers
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Re: Serious Hitler question [Re: deCypher] 1
#12436096 - 04/22/10 04:53 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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In the end he did what a boatload of people before him had done. He took over territory, assimilated some of the people, killed others, and did so with an agenda. The difference was the industrial revolution and military mechanization. All of the new processes of measuring, accounting, and bureaucracy were applied to all the old motives of conquest, rising one's own tribe to the top, and smashing all the tribes that piss you off. In the end it was less a surprise and more a affirmative test run of the power of the machine age.
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Re: Serious Hitler question [Re: crumblebum]
#12436109 - 04/22/10 05:01 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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crumblebum said: In the end he did what a boatload of people before him had done. He took over territory, assimilated some of the people, killed others, and did so with an agenda. The difference was the industrial revolution and military mechanization. All of the new processes of measuring, accounting, and bureaucracy were applied to all the old motives of conquest, rising one's own tribe to the top, and smashing all the tribes that piss you off. In the end it was less a surprise and more a affirmative test run of the power of the machine age.
I reckon that's a pretty accurate assessment. (although I would add that it was also the advancement in the knowledge of psychology of manipulating people as well. Hitler and his team were very adept at that.)
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Re: Serious Hitler question [Re: dif]
#12436355 - 04/22/10 07:35 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Maybe the institution of war is vital to the technology and manufacturing markets, seizing raw materials, and keeping populations under control.
Weapons are becoming to powerful to keep the game going. Now we have a population of 7 billion to be 9 billion in 2040 time, maybe the only solution will be war. A conundrum.
I just think space exploration and science development isn't going to save us.
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Re: Serious Hitler question [Re: Jaegar]
#12438427 - 04/22/10 02:33 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Jaegar said: Weapons are becoming to powerful to keep the game going. Now we have a population of 7 billion to be 9 billion in 2040 time, maybe the only solution will be war.
The only solution to what?
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Re: Serious Hitler question [Re: Poid]
#12438448 - 04/22/10 02:36 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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The Final Solution.
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Re: Serious Hitler question [Re: deCypher]
#12438509 - 04/22/10 02:48 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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...to the problem of human existence?
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Re: Serious Hitler question [Re: Poid]
#12438564 - 04/22/10 02:55 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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any possible answers spring to mind?
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Re: Serious Hitler question [Re: deCypher]
#12438591 - 04/22/10 02:59 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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I say we kill off every fat female, and every male except for me.
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Re: Serious Hitler question [Re: Poid]
#12438683 - 04/22/10 03:13 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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I do not approve of your plan.
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#12438695 - 04/22/10 03:14 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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But it's the only chance he's got!
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Re: Serious Hitler question [Re: Kickle]
#12438707 - 04/22/10 03:16 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Kickle said: But it's the only chance he's got!
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