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 Why is public nudity taboo in most places? 
#12415530 - 04/18/10 03:18 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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I just can't, for the life of me, understand why the majority of humans want there to be a law which prohibits them from being nude in public. 
What do ya'll think? 
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 Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
#12415541 - 04/18/10 03:19 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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distraction
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
#12415549 - 04/18/10 03:20 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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The world is a much safer place with clothes on.
Some people do not deserve to be naked.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: andrewss]
#12415571 - 04/18/10 03:23 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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andrewss said:
distraction
Can you please elaborate? 
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appleorange said:
The world is a much safer place with clothes on.
It depends where you're at--if you're climbing Mount Everest, then yeah, it's much safer with clothes on. If you're just sunbathing at a public park, then wearing clothes isn't going to make you any safer.
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Some people do not deserve to be naked.
Says who? 
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid] 2
#12415603 - 04/18/10 03:28 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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Do you really want to see naked fat people all over the place? I sure don't.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Devlish2] 2
#12415612 - 04/18/10 03:29 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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Do you really want to see naked fat people all over the place? I sure don't.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Devlish2]
#12415622 - 04/18/10 03:30 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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Do you really want to see naked fat people all over the place? I sure don't.
Then don't fucking look at them.
Is that honestly why you agree with laws which prohibit public nudity? 
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
#12415649 - 04/18/10 03:34 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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i think if every one was sexy, public nudity wouldn't be an issue.
besides, if this was to include little kids. that would be even more nasty imo.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
#12415650 - 04/18/10 03:34 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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Its the only reason I can think of. 
Nudity is wrong cuz: fat people, oh if u have a boner in public that might be embarrassing, harassment maybe?
Imagine some drunk dudes walk into a hawt naked girl.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: learningtofly]
#12415674 - 04/18/10 03:39 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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yea, walking around with a boner would be weird.
what if you were on the subway sitting next to some dude and some turbulence gave you a boner. what is the guy sitting next to boner man supposed to think?
he'd think that boner man is fantasizing about him.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: learningtofly]
#12415683 - 04/18/10 03:40 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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i think if every one was sexy, public nudity wouldn't be an issue.
besides, if this was to include little kids. that would be even more nasty imo.
I think that is an extremely immature attitude--if you think something is nasty, then don't look at it. When I walk by a pile of dogshit, I avert my eyes, it's really not that fucking hard to do.
Even non-sexy people enjoy sunbathing in the nude. 
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Nudity is wrong cuz: fat people, oh if u have a boner in public that might be embarrassing, harassment maybe?
Who cares if it's embarassing, does that mean it should be illegal? Should farting in public be illegal?
Harassment should be illegal whether or not public nudity is.
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Imagine some drunk dudes walk into a hawt naked girl.
If it was an accident, then I don't think there should be a problem--if he was trying to rape her, then he should go to jail.
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yea, walking around with a boner would be weird.
what if you were on the subway sitting next to some dude and some turbulence gave you a boner. what is the guy sitting next to boner man supposed to think?
he'd think that boner man is fantasizing about him.
What is your point? 
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
#12415730 - 04/18/10 03:49 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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Poid said:
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andrewss said:
distraction
Can you please elaborate?
Well... covering of the genitals is nice for a society that likes to get down to business (commerce, not that other kind of business).
Imagine if you popped a boner in times where it just wasn't appropriate? At least with clothes on you can make something work... mostly. Or perhaps think of women on periods... Clothes are nice shields in pragmatic ways in some of those above ways...
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: andrewss]
#12415738 - 04/18/10 03:50 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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yeah but i want to look at boobs all day
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
#12415761 - 04/18/10 03:52 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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I think that is an extremely immature attitude--if you think something is nasty, then don't look at it. When I walk by a pile of dogshit, I avert my eyes, it's really not that fucking hard to do.
Even non-sexy people enjoy sunbathing in the nude.
kinda hard, people are everywhere.
dog shit, isn't.
and don't compare apples to oranges. besides, people have special places to be nude if they want too.
just don't go there if you don't like it or can't tolerate it.
it isn't the same for being nude everywhere where you have to see them everywhere so people that can't tolerate it (for whatever reason) would have to suffer.
it might increase more rape too. for one, the clothes are already off so less work for forced intercourse. second. people bombarded with nudity can some people get frisky.
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WHo cares if it's embarassing, does that mean it should be illegal? Should farting be illegal?
Harassment should be illegal whether or not public nudity is.
farting is way a different case from nudity. harassment of some sorts is illegal depending where you are.
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If it was an accident, then I don't think there should be a problem--if he was trying to rape her, then he should go to jail.
but the fact she is naked might have increased the chance of being raped because of temptation.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: elementswrath] 1
#12415790 - 04/18/10 03:56 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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imagine being at a concert or a party
people are crowded together, if they are already naked a penis or two is bound to slip in
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
#12415798 - 04/18/10 03:57 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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Poid,
Even if everyone was comfortable with seeing boners and fat people. The only places where you could actually live naked are countries on the equator.
In Iceland, you would die if you walked around naked. Heavy wool coats and hats are necessary for survival.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: learningtofly]
#12415825 - 04/18/10 04:01 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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imagine being at a concert or a party
people are crowded together, if they are already naked a penis or two is bound to slip in
a entire concert will become a orgy.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: elementswrath]
#12415835 - 04/18/10 04:03 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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ok imagine this:
You're at a rave, everyone is naked, and everyone is ROLLING.
That would probably result in a massive orgy
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: learningtofly]
#12415868 - 04/18/10 04:07 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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learningtofly said:
ok imagine this:
You're at a rave, everyone is naked, and everyone is ROLLING.
That would probably result in a massive orgy
Imagine this.
Christmas time at the mall, your kid wants to sit on santa's lap.
Point made.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: appleorange]
#12415876 - 04/18/10 04:09 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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wait santa's penis would ...  in your kid's.. 
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: appleorange]
#12415884 - 04/18/10 04:10 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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good points.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: elementswrath] 1
#12416216 - 04/18/10 05:19 PM (14 years, 2 days ago) |
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andrewss said:
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Poid said:
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andrewss said:
distraction
Can you please elaborate?
Well... covering of the genitals is nice for a society that likes to get down to business (commerce, not that other kind of business).
Imagine if you popped a boner in times where it just wasn't appropriate? At least with clothes on you can make something work... mostly. Or perhaps think of women on periods... Clothes are nice shields in pragmatic ways in some of those above ways...
I knew that money had something to do with it! 
If you are going to conduct business, and if doing so with naked people distracts you, then maybe it would make sense to only conduct business with people who wear clothes. But what does this have to do with public nudity? 
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I think that is an extremely immature attitude--if you think something is nasty, then don't look at it. When I walk by a pile of dogshit, I avert my eyes, it's really not that fucking hard to do.
Even non-sexy people enjoy sunbathing in the nude.
kinda hard, people are everywhere.
So what?
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dog shit, isn't.
and don't compare apples to oranges.
I'm not, my point is that if something offends you, then it is up to you to find a way to either cope with it, or avoid it.
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besides, people have special places to be nude if they want too.
Yes, and all those places cost money.
Why should people have to pay money in order to be naked? Why are you so against freedom?
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just don't go there if you don't like it or can't tolerate it.
That's what I'm telling you--if you can't handle seeing naked humans, then you should stay inside like an agoraphobiac instead of supporting laws that prohibit people from being nude.
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it isn't the same for being nude everywhere where you have to see them everywhere so people that can't tolerate it (for whatever reason) would have to suffer.
Don't you think that the reason they can't tolerate it is because they've been conditioned to be comfortable around clothed humans, and this itself is the result of these stupid laws? 
Why would you rather feed and continue this cycle, instead of putting an end to it? Why is immaturity more valued than acceptance of reality? 
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it might increase more rape too. for one, the clothes are already off so less work for forced intercourse.
Nude people who rape each other are going to suffer the same penalties as clothed people--nudist colonies have a very low rape rate, have you considered that? 
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second. people bombarded with nudity can some people get frisky.
What is your point?
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elementswrath said:
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WHo cares if it's embarassing, does that mean it should be illegal? Should farting be illegal?
Harassment should be illegal whether or not public nudity is.
farting is way a different case from nudity.
You're missing the point entirely--both farting and nudity can be embarassing for some people, do you think that is a good reason to illegalize them?
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If it was an accident, then I don't think there should be a problem--if he was trying to rape her, then he should go to jail.
but the fact she is naked might have increased the chance of being raped because of temptation.
Again, nudist colonies have very low rape rates.
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Poid,
Even if everyone was comfortable with seeing boners and fat people. The only places where you could actually live naked are countries on the equator.
In Iceland, you would die if you walked around naked. Heavy wool coats and hats are necessary for survival.
I don't live on the equator, and right now, it's hot as fuck, and I wish I could just sunbathe in the nude.
But no, people like you think that I should not have the right to do this. 
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learningtofly said:
ok imagine this:
You're at a rave, everyone is naked, and everyone is ROLLING.
That would probably result in a massive orgy
Imagine this.
Christmas time at the mall, your kid wants to sit on santa's lap.
Point made.
They sit on his thighs, not his penis. 
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid] 2
#12416567 - 04/18/10 06:28 PM (14 years, 1 day ago) |
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Poid said:
I just can't, for the life of me, understand why the majority of humans want there to be a law which prohibits them from being nude in public.
What do ya'll think?
I honestly agree. WTF society??
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#12416579 - 04/18/10 06:30 PM (14 years, 1 day ago) |
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JOOSE!! 
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
#12416871 - 04/18/10 07:45 PM (14 years, 1 day ago) |
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People have to wear clothes because it is part of the vested interest in the religious institutions behind the curtains of the western world. (cough cough christianity cough cough)
i think i worded that weird, sorry im nodding my tits off right now
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: appleorange]
#12416882 - 04/18/10 07:47 PM (14 years, 1 day ago) |
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appleorange said:
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learningtofly said:
ok imagine this:
You're at a rave, everyone is naked, and everyone is ROLLING.
That would probably result in a massive orgy
Imagine this.
Christmas time at the mall, your kid wants to sit on santa's lap.
Point made.
Without his clothes he would just be a fat naked bearded old man.
I have to agree with the op though. BUT i would still wear clothes most of the time.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Cognitive_Shift said:
People have to wear clothes because it is part of the vested interest in the religious institutions behind the curtains of the western world. (cough cough christianity cough cough)
I totally agree. 
Maybe this has something to do with why Jesus always wears a shit-load of clothes. 
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i think i worded that weird, sorry im nodding my tits off right now
It's alright, it made sense to me. 
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
#12421061 - 04/19/10 02:50 PM (14 years, 1 day ago) |
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Shortly, the choice of clothing or no will be as optional as where one chooses to eat, or practice. It's all coming along, but it's going to take a moment.
I agree with you poid. not a big deal at all. Those who don't want to be naked can wear clothes and those who don't want to see shouldn't look, or should live in areas where few people want to walk around naked.
Legislating morality on this issue is 100% akin to cannabis or any other liberty/personal rights issue.
No one has a right to come put their hands on me because I'm not walking around in the right uniform.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
#12421635 - 04/19/10 04:52 PM (14 years, 1 day ago) |
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Imagine many Poids everywhere. Touching isn't going on?
Raging idiots never get warm outside, rarely maybe.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: falcon]
#12421701 - 04/19/10 05:01 PM (14 years, 1 day ago) |
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We need clothes because we haven't matured past sexual maturity.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: auxiliary]
#12421841 - 04/19/10 05:24 PM (14 years, 1 day ago) |
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We need clothes because we haven't matured past sexual maturity.
No, it's because we got kicked out of the Garden of Eden. Duh.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher]
#12421891 - 04/19/10 05:33 PM (14 years, 1 day ago) |
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Humility said:
No one has a right to come put their hands on me because I'm not walking around in the right uniform.
Exactly.
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auxiliary said:
We need clothes because we haven't matured past sexual maturity.
I agree.
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auxiliary said:
We need clothes because we haven't matured past sexual maturity.
No, it's because we got kicked out of the Garden of Eden. Duh.
I agree.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
#12421968 - 04/19/10 05:45 PM (14 years, 1 day ago) |
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The only thing that comes after sexual maturity is erectile dysfunction.
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don't tell me things like that, mannn
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#12422005 - 04/19/10 05:51 PM (14 years, 23 hours ago) |
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These old men on this site routinely ruin awesome stuff for me by telling me said activity/thing sucks when you're old. Nowhere is this more true than sex.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: OrgoneConclusion] 1
#12422014 - 04/19/10 05:53 PM (14 years, 23 hours ago) |
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The only thing that comes after sexual maturity is erectile dysfunction.
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OK. True story. My dad is 80 and still has sex with his lady every day.
The bad news, he has to be able to deal with lots of sag.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
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I'm not, my point is that if something offends you, then it is up to you to find a way to either cope with it, or avoid it.
so i have to stay in my room like a hermit?
i personally don't like it.
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Yes, and all those places cost money.
Why should people have to pay money in order to be naked? Why are you so against freedom?
you live in america right? well, here in canada nude beaches and most nudity areas are completely free.
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Why are you so against freedom?
how can i be against what doesn't exist? freedom of course is subjective.
i should have the freedom too not look at naked old men or what i find "repulsive" all over the place.
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Again, nudist colonies have very low rape rates.
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There's so many girls I wanna see naked.
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muthafuckin' WORD
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: SprewellSleeve]
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Public nudity is a health hazard. Do you want your mcdonald's hamburgers cooked by naked people?
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: SprewellSleeve]
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There's so many girls I wanna see naked.
http://www.google.com
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I assumed he meant in real life d00d
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: elementswrath]
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I'm not, my point is that if something offends you, then it is up to you to find a way to either cope with it, or avoid it.
so i have to stay in my room like a hermit?
i personally don't like it.
You don't like it because you've been raised in a society of people who wear clothes--were you raised in a society where people feel free to either be clothed or nude, then you wouldn't feel uncomfortable being around nude people.
You don't have to stay in a roon like a hermit, you can just learn to cope with being around humans in their natural form--that you would even have to cope with such a thing is ridiculous IMO, I can't believe nude humans bother you so much.
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Yes, and all those places cost money.
Why should people have to pay money in order to be naked? Why are you so against freedom?
you live in america right? well, here in canada nude beaches and most nudity areas are completely free.
Oh, you're Canadian...
Why would somebody have to travel to a beach in order to enjoy being nude? Again, why are you so against freedom?
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Why are you so against freedom?
how can i be against what doesn't exist
WTF are you talking about?
Nudity exists, and you're against the freedom of each human's choice to either be clothed or nude, it's as simple as that. 
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freedom of course is subjective.
Not sure exactly what you're trying to say here--freedoms such as the right to free speech in the US are objective, what do you mean that freedom is subjective?
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i should have the freedom too not look at naked old men or what i find "repulsive" all over the place.
And you do, nobody is trying to take that away from you.
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Again, nudist colonies have very low rape rates.
source?
I remember reading about this somewhere, and I thought it was pretty common knowledge, but I can't find the source ATM--when I find the source I will post it.
Can you provide source that shows that the incidence of rape is significantly higher in nudist colonies than it is in areas where public nudity is illegal?
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
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I just can't, for the life of me, understand why the majority of humans want there to be a law which prohibits them from being nude in public.
What do ya'll think?
I don't want to see some blubbery ass fat bitch that looks like a walking stack of burned pancakes walk around town naked. I just don't.
I don't want to see some hairy back white trash gorilla walking around town either. If you've ever been to oregon you would change your opinion immediately.
I am a very visual person, and besides, can you imagine the freak show that would be wal mart? that place is bad enough with clothes, without it would be like walking in to a portal to hell.
I may be a shallow bastard, but if everyone walked around naked i would be sick to my stomach. And the argument of "if you don't like it just look away" is bullshit.
If I walked into a porn shop with a woman, i wouldnt want to see some nasty looking bum standing there with a boner in front of all the movies. that kind of kills the mood.
Also, think of all of the sick pedophile pieces of shit. I wouldn't want my kids, or any child at all, to be walking around naked.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
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besides, people have special places to be nude if they want too.
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Yes, and all those places cost money.
Why should people have to pay money in order to be naked? Why are you so against freedom?
All those places cost money?
I strip off at the lake/beach all the time. Sure, not exactly when lots of people are cruising around, but I am not paying to be at a nudist resort!
Time and place.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: figmentfragment]
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It's just a humane habit that got around. First they used clothing to protect themselves from cold or sun, and then it became a habit.
And you know what they say... old habits die hard.
Personally, I wouldn't have any kind of problem with it. It doesn't matter if the person is sexy or not.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: figmentfragment]
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I strip off at the lake/beach all the time. Sure, not exactly when lots of people are cruising around, but I am not paying to be at a nudist resort!
Time and place.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher]
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Go to a nudist colony with nothing but people over 50 and you will understand why in a matter of minutes.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher]
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I strip off at the lake/beach all the time. Sure, not exactly when lots of people are cruising around, but I am not paying to be at a nudist resort!
Time and place.
Pics or GTFO.
More accurately "pics or it didn't happen" as my statement was pertaining to the fact that one need not pay to be naked in "public."
If you are going to be derogatory at least get it right. 
To be frank, I wasn't expecting this type of "humour." It actually makes me a bit sad.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: figmentfragment]
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How was I being derogatory?
internet nudity is NOT a crime
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How was I being derogatory?
internet nudity is NOT a crime
cypher's right, it's a privilege.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher]
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How was I being derogatory?
internet nudity is NOT a crime
"or get the fuck out" is the part of the comment I refer to.
And I was just honestly expressing how it made me feel...
who said anything about internet or porn? Who said it WAS a crime?
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Oh, well you can tell me to STFU anytime. I didn't mean GTFO as an insult. 
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher]
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Personally I think this subject has far greater ramifications than just whether or not we might see fat people's hoo-has.
It has long been my assumption that social repression of nudity has had untold and almost certainly damaging repercussions on our psychology.
Essentially, we are all psychologically conditioned from a young age to be fearful of other people seeing our naked bodies (because we know it will result in negative social feedback, IE, punishment).
How could that not be some kind of emotionally damaging for primates like ourselves?
I don't have any specific theories as to what its repercussions are, but then again I don't know any people who were raised in nudist colonies.
And as far as I know, this is not a subject which any academic psychologist has looked into.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: laserpig]
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I think you should start a nudist colony and conduct highly unethical experiments for us. 
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher]
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to be honest i think a nudist colony would be a terrible control group
it seems highly likely that the culture of a nudist colony would be pretty f**ked up, just because of its "radical subculture" status and the kinds of people such subcultures tend to attract
social taboos are a very interesting subject, but almost impossible to study individually because they always come complexed with other taboos and customs
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: laserpig]
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Personally I think this subject has far greater ramifications than just whether or not we might see fat people's hoo-has.
No... that is exactly the ramifications. Christians would be appalled if people reveled their breasts, and christians are the ones pulling the strings from above.
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Personally I think this subject has far greater ramifications than just whether or not we might see fat people's hoo-has.
No... that is exactly the ramifications. Christians would be appalled if people reveled their breasts, and christians are the ones pulling the strings from above.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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did you even read the rest of my post
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did you even read the rest of my post
Yeah i did. It was a ramble consisting of only a few vague ideas about psychological conditioning, which was then confessed as no clear idea or theory with...
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i find it hard to believe you're actually proposing that social enforcement against nudity from childhood through adult life has no consequences for our psychology
at the risk of sounding vague and mystical, i think it's no exaggeration to say that most people in western society have a rather disconnected and uncomfortable relationship with their physical bodies
IMO, the ban on nudity is a prime suspect for inducing that state
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i find it hard to believe you're actually proposing that social enforcement against nudity from childhood through adult life has no consequences for our psychology
I find it hard to believe i proposed such an idea.
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i said i think it has greater ramifications than the possibility of seeing fat people's junk
you said "No... that is exactly the ramifications."
if i'm misinterpreting, then please explain yourself and correct me, but that sure looks like a dismissal of the idea that there are ramifications for psychological health
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: laserpig]
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All i was saying was that the only reason nudity is taboo in the modern western world is because of modern social values mimicking christian values. Don't think too hard, just take it is it reads.
I never said anything about psychological ramifications which you failed to specify
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I never said anything about psychological ramifications which you failed to specify
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PS sup Cog!
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher]
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I don't see how you can pin this entirely on religion. The institutions that have reign over man are birthed from the basic underlying psychology of all or most of the human race. In the UK there are hardly any religious folk but all these taboos are still going strong.
Personally I think people are uncomfortable with their animal nature because of death anxiety and therefore repulsed by the body, especially if there are imperfections. Just look at the female anorexia culture, a severe symptom and reflection of psychology most females and males (although IMO to a lesser extent) posess.
Most people are uncomfortable with the human body, I know I am yet I am born and raised by parents who were both strong atheists. I do disagree with having laws against it but I don't think it's to do with religion but more religious values are a great representation of a group of humans who are, for the most part, in denial about unconscious drives and have a very small capacity for logical thinking.
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In the UK there are hardly any religious folk but all these taboos are still going strong.
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Nice, taboos on human bodily parts have been in evidence since way before christianity, eg. tribes where the custom is to wear a butt plug.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Grapefruit]
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Nice, taboos on human bodily parts have been in evidence since way before christianity, eg. tribes where the custom is to wear a butt plug.
Tribes of whom the people wear butt plugs did not form the modern western world.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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The same underlying human psychology formed all cultures small and large IMO. This is why there are so many similarities between the taboos they have. Both the major and minor religions share very similar taboos regardless of the fact they have had very little contact in the past.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Grapefruit]
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Christians would be appalled if people reveled their breasts, and christians are the ones pulling the strings from above.
I agree with this. - Nudity is feared because it is perceived to encourage sexual thought outside of wedlock. I am sure this line of thinking is of Christian origin.
I think rules regarding nudity should be applied by establishments on an individual basis.
As a compromise; I would be happy to see left-wing artsy places accepting various levels of nudity, sidewalk nudity, private property nudity, and park and beach nudity. However would understand that the christian bookstore, republican office and walmart would have policies banning nude people...
I absolutely believe we should be allowed to be naked in our yards without repercussions. (i daydream about gardening naked  )
I also think that fearing nudity is damaging to our psyches.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Grapefruit]
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Personally I think people are uncomfortable with their animal nature because of death anxiety and therefore repulsed by the body, especially if there are imperfections. Just look at the female anorexia culture, a severe symptom and reflection of psychology most females and males (although IMO to a lesser extent) posess.
Most people are uncomfortable with the human body, I know I am yet I am born and raised by parents who were both strong atheists. I do disagree with having laws against it but I don't think it's to do with religion but more religious values are a great representation of a group of humans who are, for the most part, in denial about unconscious drives and have a very small capacity for logical thinking.
I really like your thinking.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: laserpig]
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I just can't, for the life of me, understand why the majority of humans want there to be a law which prohibits them from being nude in public.
What do ya'll think?
I don't want to see some blubbery ass fat bitch that looks like a walking stack of burned pancakes walk around town naked. I just don't.
I don't want to see some hairy back white trash gorilla walking around town either.
But I bet you wouldn't mind seeing some fine-ass chick walking around town butt-naked, now, would you?
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If you've ever been to oregon you would change your opinion immediately.
No I wouldn't, because I understand that having my own freedom to be nude in public would be worth seeing the occasional nude ugly fat beast.
Also, sometimes I might see a nude hot chick, so the tradeoff is definitely worth it! 
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I am a very visual person, and besides, can you imagine the freak show that would be wal mart? that place is bad enough with clothes, without it would be like walking in to a portal to hell.
I don't even look at people when I go in there, anyway, so it wouldn't be much different for me.
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I may be a shallow bastard, but if everyone walked around naked i would be sick to my stomach.
I also think you may be a shallow bastard.
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And the argument of "if you don't like it just look away" is bullshit.
Why do you think that?
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If I walked into a porn shop with a woman, i wouldnt want to see some nasty looking bum standing there with a boner in front of all the movies. that kind of kills the mood.
Kills what mood? You're in there to buy porn, not have a romantic evening with your significant other.
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Also, think of all of the sick pedophile pieces of shit. I wouldn't want my kids, or any child at all, to be walking around naked.
I really don't understand this part, and predicted that this would be one of the biggest problems people have with public nudity--if "pedophiles" are looking at naked kids, so what? Why should that impede their freedom to be nude? All people, old, young, ugly, beautiful, get pleasure from being nude outside (depending on the weather)--the reason people feel uncomfortable around nude people is because they were raised in an environment filled with clothed people. You, and people like you, just want to continue this retarded-ass cycle.
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besides, people have special places to be nude if they want too.
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Yes, and all those places cost money.
Why should people have to pay money in order to be naked? Why are you so against freedom?
All those places cost money?
For most people, yes--even if the place is free, those who live far away from it have to pay to travel to it.
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I strip off at the lake/beach all the time. Sure, not exactly when lots of people are cruising around, but I am not paying to be at a nudist resort!.
But is it legal there?
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It's just a humane habit that got around. First they used clothing to protect themselves from cold or sun, and then it became a habit.
And you know what they say... old habits die hard.
Personally, I wouldn't have any kind of problem with it. It doesn't matter if the person is sexy or not.
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Personally I think this subject has far greater ramifications than just whether or not we might see fat people's hoo-has.
It has long been my assumption that social repression of nudity has had untold and almost certainly damaging repercussions on our psychology.
Essentially, we are all psychologically conditioned from a young age to be fearful of other people seeing our naked bodies (because we know it will result in negative social feedback, IE, punishment).
How could that not be some kind of emotionally damaging for primates like ourselves?
I don't have any specific theories as to what its repercussions are, but then again I don't know any people who were raised in nudist colonies.
And as far as I know, this is not a subject which any academic psychologist has looked into.
Totally, and it's the thoughtless masses of sheeple who, like always, keep the status quo up. 
The biggest thing preventing the abolishment of public nudity laws these days seems to be the relatively recent "pedophilia scare". 
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
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Really you don't look at people when you go to wal-mart. Either you're some emo kid that just stares at the floor or you could very well be part of the freak show.
Just looking away from some disgusting slob doesn't work. What if you're stuck at a light and some nasty bag of shit crosses the road? You really can't look away unless you want to miss the light changing. Among other reason.
The pedophilia thing, no child should ever grow up with having to dodge these nasty motherfuckers on their way to school, or where ever they go. If saw some sick piece of shit just staring at a kid with a boner I would kick the shit out of him. Then I'd go to jail for that, while that sick fuck continues to harass innocent kids, and women, that are only trying to go about their own business. And besides, i don't give a fuck what anyone says, ALL pedophiles should be castrated, and locked away like the animals they are.
They can't function like a normal fucking person. I don't want to hear any bullshit about "it's a disease". No the fuck it isn't. It's one persons sick fantasy, and one person's lack of control over their own actions. That isn't my problem to deal with, or society's so throw these motherfuckers in a fucking volcano for all I care, just keep them away from decent people trying to go about their lives.
This isn't about perpetuating some cycle, it's about human decency. I guarantee you most women would not want to be walking around naked, especially if they are hot. I've even gone so far as to ask all the women that I know about this, and all of them say it's fucking gross. There you have it.
Walking into the porn shop, you say kills what mood? Obviously you've never done that with a woman, because when you go to these places with women both of you are in a certain mood to do certain things (i.e. fuck). And if there is some fat bastard, or some stank ass bum there, that would kill the mood.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: PurpleGiant]
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the point is that it's purely a cultural standard
obviously if you took people from this culture, stripped them naked, and asked them to go about their days normally, you'd have some problems
but i honestly think it would be possible to have quite a decent culture where nudity was not repressed
obviously this would have to entail different attitudes towards sexual relationship than we have here, but it ain't like this culture's attitudes toward sex are super awesome
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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The need for warmth, usurped into culture and then 'tabooed' and made punishable by death, (primarily for "women whores"), by religious texts. The texts stuck.
Now we have Spring Break and Sexting, so progress has been made, depending on how you define progress.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: numonkei]
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i agree that "sexting," spring break, etcetera constitute a reaction against the nudity taboo, but i don't think it's necessarily a productive reaction, because there's no moral dimension to it
these reactions seem to me to be unconsciously accepting the notion that what they're doing is somehow seedy or wrong, and therefore i don't think they make any progress towards dissolving the taboos
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: laserpig]
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these reactions seem to me to be unconsciously accepting the notion that what they're doing is somehow seedy or wrong
How/why?
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: PurpleGiant]
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Just looking away from some disgusting slob doesn't work.
What is your point? Doesn't work for what?
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What if you're stuck at a light and some nasty bag of shit crosses the road? You really can't look away unless you want to miss the light changing.
What is your point?
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Among other reason.
Among other reason?
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The pedophilia thing, no child should ever grow up with having to dodge these nasty motherfuckers on their way to school, or where ever they go.
What proof do you have that nudist children are raped more often than non-nudist children?
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If saw some sick piece of shit just staring at a kid with a boner I would kick the shit out of him.
Why?
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Then I'd go to jail for that, while that sick fuck continues to harass innocent kids, and women, that are only trying to go about their own business.
What proof do you have that nudist women and children are more likely to be harassed than non-nudist women and children?
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And besides, i don't give a fuck what anyone says, ALL pedophiles should be castrated, and locked away like the animals they are.
Kind of off-topic, but I'd like to know why you have such a hateful mentality.
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They can't function like a normal fucking person.
What makes you think that?
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I don't want to hear any bullshit about "it's a disease". No the fuck it isn't. It's one persons sick fantasy, and one person's lack of control over their own actions.
I agree--homosexuality used to be considered a "disease".
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That isn't my problem to deal with, or society's so throw these motherfuckers in a fucking volcano for all I care, just keep them away from decent people trying to go about their lives.
Why do you think that people who are sexually attracted to children are more likely to sexually molest somebody than people who are not sexually attracted to children to do the same?
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This isn't about perpetuating some cycle, it's about human decency.
What about "human decency"?
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I guarantee you most women would not want to be walking around naked, especially if they are hot.
What is your point?
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I've even gone so far as to ask all the women that I know about this, and all of them say it's fucking gross. There you have it.
 , how many women do you actually know?
Are you really so retarded that you don't understand that many nudists are hot chicks? Don't you realize that the women that you've talked to about this are not nudists, and were raised in a society where nudity is taboo, which caused them to be repulsed by nudity? 
You say it's about human decency, but then you also say that human nudity is fucking gross?
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Walking into the porn shop, you say kills what mood? Obviously you've never done that with a woman, because when you go to these places with women both of you are in a certain mood to do certain things (i.e. fuck). And if there is some fat bastard, or some stank ass bum there, that would kill the mood.
Well then too bad for you, you don't need to really be in that mood in a public place, anyways. You go to a porn shop to buy a porno to take it home and watch it, you're not supposed to fuck in porn shops.
You really think nudity should be illegal just because you don't want to see a fat nude guy in a porn shop? 
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher]
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these reactions seem to me to be unconsciously accepting the notion that what they're doing is somehow seedy or wrong
How/why?
it's the "thrill factor"
the "ooh, wow, how risque!" attitude
to use a comparable but somewhat different example, take the taboo against masturbation
specifically, the feeling of guilt that many people have after masturbating or when thinking about masturbating
does the mere fact that such a person still does masturbate imply that they're doing anything to counter the taboo against it?
are they actually combating their own tendency to feel guilty about masturbation?
obviously, no, they're not, they're just masturbating and then feeling guilty about it
it's the same thing with the large majority of expressions of nudity in our culture
though the nudity exists, it exists totally within the social/psychological constructs associated with the taboo
so though people may "sext" or do similar things, this in and of itself does not fight back against the taboo, it merely breaks the taboo, and unless the person is consciously rebelling against their social conditioning based on a philosophical objection, they'll just feel a little awkward about having broken the taboo and hope they don't get found out -- and the taboo persists, even within the head of the person breaking it
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And you know this because you've performed sociological studies? Or are you just assuming based on your own personal feelings about the matter?
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher]
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obviously, the latter, but it holds pretty much uniformly for my own experience as well as what i have discussed with and observed in friends and acquaintances
don't mistake this for an argument that all reactions against taboos are futile, i'm just trying to say that in the specific examples of "sexting" and spring break behavior, i don't think philosophical or moral motivation can be given any credit, and thus without any principled objection, the participants make no headway in dissolving the taboos
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: laserpig]
#12468284 - 04/27/10 08:31 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well, based on my observations I'd have to disagree with you.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher]
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Which specific point do you disagree with?
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
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Which specific point do you disagree with?
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these reactions seem to me to be unconsciously accepting the notion that what they're doing is somehow seedy or wrong
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher]
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Well, based on my observations I'd have to disagree with you.
What have you observed that has led you to disagree with him?
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher]
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these reactions seem to me to be unconsciously accepting the notion that what they're doing is somehow seedy or wrong
i can see why you object to that
it's overstated, and if i were better able to organize my thoughts on this matter then i would probably have worded it quite differently
the statement i'm prepared to stand by is this:
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don't mistake this for an argument that all reactions against taboos are futile, i'm just trying to say that in the specific examples of "sexting" and spring break behavior, i don't think philosophical or moral motivation can be given any credit, and thus without any principled objection, the participants make no headway in dissolving the taboos
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: laserpig]
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Don't the taboos dissolve naturally provided sexting and spring break behavior continue?
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher]
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they might represent a "chink in the armor," if you will, but in and of themselves i think the behaviors are futile
at best, they are a vague precursor to principled objection
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: laserpig]
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the behaviors are a symptom of taboo dissolution IMO
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exactly -- a symptom, not a cause
they don't mean anything, other than that the taboos are not 100% enforced
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never said it was a cause
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher]
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the behaviors are a symptom of taboo dissolution IMO
And you know this because you've performed sociological studies? Or are you just assuming based on your own personal feelings about the matter?
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher]
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i know, i was just contrasting "symptom" and "cause" to emphasize my point, which is that "sexting" doesn't actively drive taboo dissolution
but at this point i think we really agree with each other more than we don't, so if you're willing to let it rest, i certainly am
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
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Would you like to contribute your own thoughts to this issue Poid? Or just keep on using the smirk smiley?
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher]
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I don't think that spring break and such is anything but a symptom of a temporary dissolution of certain taboos--it seemed like you were saying that it is a symptom of a complete and permanent dissolution of certain taboos, but I may have misunderstood you there. 
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
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Why only temporary?
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher]
#12468411 - 04/27/10 08:52 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Because, after they're done partying on the beach and what-not, they return home and continue on with their usual lifestyles, which don't include being nude in public.
Mardi gras is another good example--the displays of public nudity end when the festival is over. And after the festival is over, the taboos remain.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
#12468420 - 04/27/10 08:53 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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So tell me O great poid... what should we do to ensure these taboo dissolutions are not temporary?
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher]
#12468438 - 04/27/10 08:56 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Annihilate all who disagree with legalizing public nudity.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid] 1
#12468450 - 04/27/10 08:58 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher] 1
#12468458 - 04/27/10 09:00 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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It'll never happen though, not in a mob-rule country inhabited mostly by idiots.  
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid] 1
#15275490 - 10/25/11 09:59 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Poid, I just came across your post and I have a lot to say in reply. First, my interpretation of your comments is that you are talking about a general law that prohibits public nudity, as opposed to laws or other rules prohibiting nudity in some cases. For, example I am a man and there is no general law prohibiting me from baring my chest in public, yet there are many places, restaurants and stores where I would not be allowed to bare my chest and many more where I would be told to leave if I was to bare my chest.
As to the question as to why people want there to be a general law that prohibits public nudity in the way I described I would say that it is because people have been brought up to believe that one should not be naked in public. I believe that everyone, in our culture, was taught, explicitly or implicitly, that it is wrong to be naked in public. I do not believe that people are born thinking that it is wrong to be naked in public or that it is disagreeable to see someone who is naked in public, because if people were born feeling that the human body was ugly the human species would never have survived.
Basically, from what I have seen, I feel that people tend to believe what they are brought up to believe that that these beliefs influence the way that people feel. I feel that people are more likely, maybe much more likely, to believe the worst about things they were brought up to believe were wrong. That is, I feel, they tend to weight any possible problem that may be connected with a new idea out of proportion with any possible benefit connected with the new idea and do not use consistent principles of judgment regarding new concepts as opposed to established ones. For example, I feel that many people use different and stronger criteria in evaluating new concepts as compared with old concepts, so that it seems to me that there is a strong bias against the new. My evidence for this is the number of different social norms exhibited by different cultures and the change in social norms over time even in the same culture. It seems to me that there is what can be called a social inertia, where change is resisted, despite the fact that change does occur.
As a result of what I have seen I believe that if people were brought up in a culture that did not prohibit public nudity and someone suggested that there be a general law prohibiting public nudity most people, including the people who now feel that such a law is necessary, would be opposed to that general law, perhaps saying that was an example of the “nanny state.” I feel that people are being truthful about their feelings regarding public nudity - those feeling are real, but those feeling are not completely independent of how those people were brought up.
There are two states, in the United States, that do not have general laws prohibiting public nudity and I suspect that the vast majority of people do not know which two states these are. If having a general law against public nudity is necessary to avoid major, wide spread problems then there would be major, wide spread problems in those states and because of those major problems people would be aware of what states they are. Since, as it seems to me that most people do not know which two states do not have general laws prohibiting public nudity and that I do not see major widespread problems in those two states, I do not believe that the absence of general laws against public nudity, in those two states, results in major, widespread problems.
So, to summarize; I believe that the reason so many people support general laws against public nudity is because these people were brought up in a culture that has a strong taboo against public nudity. I further believe that if they had been brought up in a culture that did not have such a taboo, most would oppose general laws against public nudity and favor public nudity. I could be incorrect, but based on the evidence I have seen that is what I believe.
I also feel that cultural norms and taboos do change and I believe that we are approaching a time when public nudity will be well accepted and that the people of that time will look back with amusement and wonder at societies, such as ours, that did not allow general public nudity.
Tom
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Tom1]
#15275567 - 10/25/11 10:20 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think most people have a problem with public nudity because it reminds them that they are just mostly hairless apes. Most people in America have a problem with that so they don't like being reminded of it.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Tom1]
#15275847 - 10/25/11 11:26 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wonderful post, I completely agree. 
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Poid]
#15276011 - 10/25/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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On the show Human Planet, all of the married male Africans of a certain tribe(?)that wish to participate, put on make up, make weird faces and dance to impress the female judges. The three males selected get to fuck any willing female for the next several days. After that they must return to being monogamous. The wives of those selected don't mind because it is an honor for their mate to be chosen.
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People are strange... 
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 Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: deCypher] 1
#15276104 - 10/25/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why is public nudity taboo in most places?
Do you really need this explained to you?? 
Note for the humor impaired: it's a joke.
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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.
4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Diploid]
#15276127 - 10/25/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Obesity should be illegal. 
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Re: Why is public nudity taboo in most places? [Re: Tom1]
#15284877 - 10/27/11 07:25 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bendy,
I assume that since you replied to my post you were commenting on my post. However, it’s not clear to me what your point was in regard to my post. In any case I disagree with your comment that “I think most people have a problem with public nudity because it reminds them that they are just mostly hairless apes. Most people in America have a problem with that so they don't like being reminded of it.” I don’t see the evidence for that nor the logic.
Poid,
Thank you for you kind post.
To all,
In my earlier post I wrote “I do not believe that people are born thinking that it is wrong to be naked in public or that it is disagreeable to see someone who is naked in public, because if people were born feeling that the human body was ugly the human species would never have survived.” My thinking as to why I believe that if people were born feeling that the human body was ugly the human species would never have survived is as follows:
Humans are particularly weak as compared to other animals of equal size, so I feel that to survive humans need to band together. Banding together is helpful in regard to protection and in regard to hunting for food. So, it seems that any inborn trait that would tend to discourage this banding together would be harmful to the survival of the species. Further, it appears from what I have read that for most of the history of the human species people were naked. Putting these together it seems to me that being born feeling that the naked human body was ugly would put an individual at a disadvantage. Someone that was born feeling the naked human body was ugly would be more likely to stay away from other humans than would someone that was not born feeling the naked human body was ugly. Thus, a person born feeling that the human body was ugly would be more likely to be killed by a predator and less likely to get enough food so they would be less likely to be able to pass her/his genes on. In fact it makes sense to me, based on the same reasoning, that being born with a tendency to feel that the human body was attractive would be a trait that would help one survive and pass her/his genes on. So, I believe that people are born with a tendency to see the naked human body as attractive. This attraction that I am talking about here is not sexual attraction.
I feel that humans are also very flexible as compared to other animals, in that they can learn to adapt to the environment and in that way they do not only have to depend on evolution. I see part of adapting to the environment as adapting to the social system that one is born into. So, this is one reason I feel that people’s beliefs and feelings are, in part, determined by the culture they are brought up in. In this way I believe that a person brought up in a society that views the naked human body as something bad or ugly would tend to feel that the naked human body is bad or ugly despite any possible inborn feelings that the naked human body is attractive.
To conclude I believe that people are born with the tendency to feel that the naked human body is attractive, but due to being brought up in a culture where the naked human body is considered, in many cases, bad or ugly they “learn” to feel that the naked human body is generally bad or ugly. I feel that in a culture in which public nudity is accepted that people would feel the naked human body would be more attractive and in many cases more beautiful than is the case in our current culture.
Tom,
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