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Anyway, I truly believe people can commune with God when doing Mushrooms. I've experinced it--my wife has, too.

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people can commune with anything on mushrooms given that they want too
(or even at times not wanting to or fear of a thing causes this)

im sure a satanist would "commune" with satan.
a buddhist would "commune" with buddha.
and a christian would "commune" with god.
and an athiest would commune with finds its way into his mind at the moment.
not having any direct achievement possibilites he could also commune with choas.

the way i invision this communion with entitys on mushrooms, is through the neverending possibilites of the elastic infinity.

say there was such a thing as plastic wrap spread across your mind.
what your mind projects into it would create the image of what you want to see or hear.
now say you were to not project anything onto this elastic by ceasing the mind to be/ by inner silence.  what would it then be?
    to me, its totality of energy, totality of infinite spectrums incased in a fractal cascade.  some would say, the all in all. and others would say, it is "god".

i do not mean to detere you from your religion.
i think christianity is wonderful,  as long as one follows it properly.
i do not beleive those people who call themselfs christians and then act out against it know the harm they themselfs cause to.. themselfs.
my personal opinion of the bible is that its a great parable of parables..
its the inner workings of our body/mind/soul written out in a story, through storys.
the god, the devil,  the angels, the deamons,    all incased inside of humanity.
wiether you choose heaven or hell. is really up to you, and the stories in the bible help you through those choices with things relative to the christian mind.   
  but to be able to see through the choactic mindfullness of religions promisses and rituals, to gaze apon an infinite godly abstract without the words of the mind, or the words of the bible. is truly awe inspiring.

  i personaly find christianity outcomes based too far in "the future"
the mind is constantly in the future, what will happen after death.
i understand the focus on the "now" will bring about rewards after death"
but still too much emphasis on the future for the mind to be truly religious.

also to me, nothing is half and half.  either totality is completly evil, or completely holy.

everything is holy to me, even the things that kill and the things that heal.

you cannot say a desease is both evil, and holy.  it will kill a thief...  or it will kill a priest the same. it cares not what form your mind takes into the abyss.

you cannot say a medicine is both evil, and holy. it cares not who takes it,  it will heal a satanist and a christian the same.

the rest is up to what you put yourself through.



i guess this is where i stop rambling.   

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I'm curious, how did you and your wife first turn on to mushrooms in the first place?

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My wife and I aren't as goody two shoes as you might believe. We've smoked pot a few times, and drink on occasion.

When my wife was younger, she did mushrooms with some friends. Last summer she met a friend who had them. We bought some, and just 'shroomed along. Now, I'm trying to grow them here at the house--without much success yet.

She calls it my 'little hobby'.

Thanks!  

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  Mention your proposal to your pastor. LOL, it may turn out badly, but you would have tried to change the church.

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I know you aren't going to believe this, but we have actually talked to our pastor about it.

We haven't spoken to anyone of our personal experinces, but he knows we do mushrooms on occasion. He's a very hip pastor--which is why we go to church there. He's led a very interesting life before he became a pastor--even has done mushrooms on occassion.

I know you all think I'm crazy, but my life is better because I do mushrooms. I see things more clearly--I hear things with a differant prospective.

Jesus is real. I see Him everyday, in everything. And He makes me a better person. My faith was strong before mushrooms--now it's even stronger.

Thank you 

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He's a very hip pastor--which is why we go to church there. He's led a very interesting life before he became a pastor--even has done mushrooms on occassion.

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im sure a satanist would "commune" with satan.
a buddhist would "commune" with buddha.
and a christian would "commune" with god.
and an athiest would commune with finds its way into his mind at the moment.
not having any direct achievement possibilites he could also commune with choas.

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Every part of my being tells me there is someone out there who watchs and guides me. I've felt His hand many times in my life--I've watched Him mend broken hearts and dreams. I've seen Him turn people from anger to love. And I've personally experinenced His love in my life.

You can say it's Zeus or Loki, or whatever. But I believe in Jesus, and I believe he's the Son of a Living God. And everytime I've called apon His name for strength and guidence, He's answered me. Not as I've always wanted--but He has answered me. The amazing things that have happened in my life--and recently, are not the acts of chance--or of a wood nymph.

It's easy to disbelieve. It's much harder to believe.

Thanks and have a great day! 

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  I believe that no matter what your spiritual belief, if you are a good person and adhere to good ethics, you will be rewarded with eternal bliss, if in fact GOD as we know it really exists.

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Actually, the bible is very clear on what it takes to go to eternal bliss.

There's nothing you can do.
There's nothing any of us can do. Not good deeds, nor good works will gaurentee us a spot in His Kingdom.

The price has been paid.
Make sure you thank the Man who paid the price when you enter His Kingdom.  

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I hold a stereotype that Christians are uptight and closeminded about the world, but it really made me happy to hear that you and your wife (and pastor apparently) are all open to what the world has to offer. 

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Actually, there are many more like my wife and I.

Many conservatives today are advocating an end to the 'War on Drugs'.

William F Buckley, Larry Elders, and Neal Boortz, among many others.

Many are Christens. Some of them even admit to using drugs once and awhile.

What bothers me is exactly what you wrote--this stereotype.
When conservative Christens have a stereo type, most people label it prejudice and racist. When others have a stereo type--it's merely a stereo type.

My point is that both are destructive and detrimental to society. But one is politically correct--and the other isn't.

 

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  Cool! Me, too. Last night I saw him in the melted cheese on my tortilla. Damn! Should have taken a picture.

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That's cool.

But, more importantly, you should have felt him, instead of seeing him.  

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Well, in that case, cool! This is good to hear. Invite him over sometime, then. 

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Thanks for the words of encouragement, Landotter.

In our Church, the Pastor isn't the leader of the Church, the Lay Leader is.

And guess who that is?

Yup, it's me. I'm the Lay Leader. I'm the leader of my church.

The problem is that many people have misconceptions about drugs. They'll take drugs to mend their arteries, their heart valves and their kidneys--but they refuse to believe that there are drugs that mend your outlook on life--or your attitude, or your spiritual well being.

I've found the people in this forum to be believers in a faith that it's ok to enjoy the pleasures that Earth offers all of us. They believe perception should be challenged, and that speaking out in their faith in a forum, such as this, they can commune with others of like-mindedness. I also witness their frustration with others who won't believe what they're saying, mock them as simple minded and ignorant, and confuse their beliefs with the small minority who abuse their beliefs.

As a Christen, I can certainly relate to that!!

Thanks again!