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bassfrequences
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Nounan]
#12541453 - 05/11/10 03:35 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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what do you mean by pans? paneolus sub......? are they harder to grow? Where I live I should be able to get away with growing them outdoors.
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Nounan
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Those two casing are Panaeolus (Copelandia) Tropicalis and Panaeolus (Copelandia) Cambodginiensis.
I really did the same that i m doing with cubes.
FAE is now 2 min on 15 min off and i m running Ultrasonic for RH same way.
They need "high" temp, i m fine with 24°C/25°C
And i used bulk and casing like a n00b 
Some caps started to drop spores so i harvested 2 clusters and began printing
Edited by Nounan (05/11/10 05:06 AM)
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whyblameus
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Nounan]
#12541657 - 05/11/10 06:15 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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im wondering if your pan trop is really pan trop cause i thought that the only pan trop that was going around was proven to be pan cambo by workman so its now pan cambo sandose domesticate.
i may be wrong here
also those ones you thought were mexicana that were not. you could have been able to tell by the smell of the mycelium.
just how pan mycelium has a much different smell then cubes so do mexicana but different then both.
so in the future if there smelling anything like cube mycelium it is.
your pans are looking very nice by the way.
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Nounan
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I m still looking why those mexicana are GT, but I think I orders both at same time and there is a mess up somewhere. Perhaps me but I don't think.
GT, mexicana, pan ban lamai, and pan trop all come from the same shroomery sponsor exept for pan cambo goliath that come from sporeworks, it's possible those pan trop are pan cambo too, they look really like the micro tray of cambo goliath but anyway i m happy they are pan !
I really see what you mean by different smell, I 1st think about a contam but all trays were smelling same
Edited by Nounan (05/11/10 06:31 AM)
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Nounan]
#12541752 - 05/11/10 07:05 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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The tropicalis is most likely a cambodginiensis, so just to be sure it would be a good idea to send workman a gill sample and spore print. I have the same 'tropicalis' from MRCA but youre about 4 days aahead of me .
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Re: casing and pining [Re: badman]
#12547923 - 05/12/10 10:22 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey i ll be happy to compare with your results, i used a really small tray and i m curious to know if they could be bigger.
I pm workman yesterday about that and a cap sample and print are on the way.
For now some news
1st flush of pan trop ended with 1,94g dried, good for some trips 
And here some news pics
Sporeworks Pan combo goliath :

MRCA Pan Ban Lamai :

Pan but i lost tracking forgot it when bulk, that's perhaps pan cyan
  
I had better Pinset with those other pan "trop".
I followed Jitsu advice and added 25W fluo tube at each tier of the GH.
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Nounan]
#12547967 - 05/12/10 10:37 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wow nice job! My pan cams did not germinate.
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Re: casing and pining [Re: cole2684]
#12556117 - 05/13/10 03:43 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thx 
Pan Ban Lamai are soon ready for harvest, i already pick up some and start printing. Obviously they really look like pan "trops". I think I'll stick with sporeworks in the future. Anyway there is a cool Siamese shroom both link by same cap
   
Here some pics of the no name pan tray :   
thanks all
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Nounan]
#12556146 - 05/13/10 03:49 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Did you find goliath took longer to pin that the MRCA 'tropicalis'?
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Re: casing and pining [Re: badman]
#12556280 - 05/13/10 04:13 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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-------------------- The above post is fictional, hypothetical, or downright nonsensical.
Edited by anonjon (05/13/10 04:14 PM)
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Nounan
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Re: casing and pining [Re: badman]
#12556309 - 05/13/10 04:16 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't think so. But i tried differents teks (2 day innoc after cased, directly in FC, patched or not) so i can't really say. I just think i got faster pinning but not necessery better pinning when introducting directly in FC after cased, i used to let the tray overcolonize bulk for a week i don't really know if 2gr dry for 750ml of substrate is a good ratio 
I got another goliath tray that is comming in the GH we ll see, the micro casing was too micro lol 250ml of substrate, this time it's a 4L one.
ty anon
Edited by Nounan (05/13/10 04:18 PM)
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Nounan]
#12556685 - 05/13/10 05:21 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pans are pans are pans are pans 
Theyre looking quite nice now..glad you got something besides cubes growing
I'll be giving you 5 shrooms if I havnt already.
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Nounan]
#12557108 - 05/13/10 06:34 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Nounan said:
Here some pics of the no name pan tray :   
thanks all 
hay those look familiar i know were you got the print of that from.
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Awesome. You've definitely made me want to do some pan growing : )
Do you find that you get a lot of air exchange through all parts of your green house? It sort of looks like the no name pans are developing some bacterial blotch.
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Nounan
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Jitsu]
#12560864 - 05/14/10 09:14 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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SMR : ty for your encouragements, i know what you mean now by pans are pans 
WBU : i think i ll got some prints to send around ^^
Jitsu : I hope to see that soon, Inside the GreenHouse, i added one more air entrance in the lower tier, now with 3 entrances , in 2 min (with 15 min off) where the blower is on i cycle air 3 times, now both Ultrasonic start for 2 min 1 min after the blower like that when the blower stop there is one more min with only ultrasonic. I m trying to follow RR advices and his setting that is 2 ultrasonic 1 min each 6 min. My humidity now is alway between 88% and 94% that's ok i think with casing mode.
For the bacterial problem I think you right, i ll harvest few yesterday and found the inside of the end of the stem full brown, i didn't saw that earlier so i think i ll post some pics later when i ll harvest. If i m not sure anyway i ll put that in compost after printing
Now the really good news I been dismiss (Fired ?) recently so i got some time so i ordered some new species from Sporeworks, all at home this morning ! (1 week from order to delivery from US to EU ^^)
I don't know what I'm going to start with, for sure some species will need to wait for lowers temps, all will be try indoor but 1 or 2 selected for a try on outdoor spawn (Psilocybe antioquensis, azurescens, cubensis : Albino A+, (APE ver. 1.0),PF Albino, Psilocybe cyanofranciscana, hispanica,mexicana Jalisco, pelliculosa : ,Psilocybe sierrae ,tampanensis Pollock,Panaeolus Sandose Domesticate) and there is 2 freebies PES amazonian and Burma
So i think i m around for a long long time :P sorry ^^hahha
EDIT :
Ok just Harvest Ben lamai : 40g wet, harvested 5g yesterday and few biggest caps are printing
And now pics of a shroom from the no name tray, look at the brown shit inside, i don't think they are safe to eat. will try a shot in the contam forum i think
Edited by Nounan (05/14/10 12:23 PM)
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Jitsu
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Re: casing and pining [Re: Nounan]
#12561575 - 05/14/10 12:15 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Nounan said: SMR : ty for your encouragements, i know what you mean now by pans are pans 
WBU : i think i ll got some prints to send around ^^
Jitsu : I hope to see that soon, Inside the GreenHouse, i added one more air entrance in the lower tier, now with 3 entrances , in 2 min (with 15 min off) where the blower is on i cycle air 3 times, now both Ultrasonic start for 2 min 1 min after the blower like that when the blower stop there is one more min with only ultrasonic. I m trying to follow RR advices and his setting that is 2 ultrasonic 1 min each 6 min. My humidity now is alway between 88% and 94% that's ok i think with casing mode.
For the bacterial problem I think you right, i ll harvest few yesterday and found the inside of the end of the stem full brown, i didn't saw that earlier so i think i ll post some pics later when i ll harvest. If i m not sure anyway i ll put that in compost after printing
Now the really good news I been dismiss (Fired ?) recently so i got some time so i ordered some new species from Sporeworks, all at home this morning ! (1 week from order to delivery from US to EU ^^)
I don't know what I'm going to start with, for sure some species will need to wait for lowers temps, all will be try indoor but 1 or 2 selected for a try on outdoor spawn (Psilocybe antioquensis, azurescens, cubensis : Albino A+, (APE ver. 1.0),PF Albino, Psilocybe cyanofranciscana, hispanica,mexicana Jalisco, pelliculosa : ,Psilocybe sierrae ,tampanensis Pollock,Panaeolus Sandose Domesticate)
So i think i m around for a long long time :P sorry ^^hahha
EDIT :
Ok just Harvest Ben lamai : 40g wet, harvested 5g yesterday and few biggest caps are printing
And now pics of a shroom from the no name tray, look at the brown shit inside, i don't think they are safe to eat. will try a shot in the contam forum i think

Excellent. Follow RR's advice for sure. I could be wrong, it's difficult for me to distinguish what those black spots are from the pictures. It could very well be normal spore depositing.
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