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Anonymous

This War is 100% About Oil
    #1238965 - 01/22/03 08:59 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

It's time that those of you who support this war admit it, and those of you who don't support it, get over it.  The rich and powerful have always used their power to preserve their wealth, and their wealth to preserve their power.  It's gonna take alot more than your whining to change that.  :laugh:


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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: ]
    #1239222 - 01/22/03 10:33 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

We only have to think it. We are all neurons in one big brain my friend. Ask the mushrooms next time you are dancing. They will tell you how to choose which global thoughts to be a part of and why that is important. :grin:

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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: ]
    #1239578 - 01/22/03 12:28 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

So being concerned about innocent women and kids being blown to peices is "whining" is it?

What exactly have you learned from mushrooms? Do you sit there tripping thinking "Goddamn I can't wait for George Bush to show those fucking smelly towelheads what we are made of". Don't you ever get a break from these feelings? Not even when you're tripping? You never feel any compassion and love for people?


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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: Xlea321]
    #1239907 - 01/22/03 02:13 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

So being concerned about innocent women and kids being blown to peices is "whining" is it?
What exactly have you learned from mushrooms? Do you sit there tripping thinking "Goddamn I can't wait for George Bush to show those fucking smelly towelheads what we are made of". Don't you ever get a break from these feelings? Not even when you're tripping? You never feel any compassion and love for people?

Listen Al, I love the Iraqi people. It really is too bad that their dictator is a whacko and that the U.S. has decided to violently oust him to get at his oil, and that alot of them will be victimized in the process. I oppose this war. I just get tired of hearing people like you say, "it's just about oil !" as if they've had some kind of great insight and know something others don't. Of course it's about oil. It's the rich fucking the poor the same way they always have. I never said that people being killed didn't bother me. Step down.


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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: ]
    #1240023 - 01/22/03 02:51 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I don't support the war, at least not with the evidence that has been provided to me. Now if Dubba has some information tucked up his sleeve that makes it all make sense, maybe I'll support it.

But this is not to say I do not think of, and care about our troops over there, my thoughts, and if I prayed, my prayers are with them.


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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: ]
    #1240453 - 01/22/03 05:27 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I'm willing to go to war to secure oil. We employ Arabs to work on the oil rigs and pay money to their governments. Plus, we get cheap power. It all works out.


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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: Anonymous]
    #1240464 - 01/22/03 05:29 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

What goes around comes around. Someday America's arrogance and greed will catch up to it.


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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: silversoul7]
    #1240606 - 01/22/03 06:26 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

It's gonna be real soon. Terrorism works.


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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: ]
    #1240653 - 01/22/03 06:46 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I highly suggest that anyone who honestly believes the war isn't about oil to read the link posted by that one guy in my other thread (can I be more vague lol - here:LINK ). Read it. I will gladly read a link supporting the war, provided it offers something more substantial than rhetoric.


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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: ]
    #1240655 - 01/22/03 06:46 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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It's gonna be real soon. Terrorism works.




Generally, I'm very sympathetic towards our enemies if they have valid reasons for not liking us. But I lose all sympathy when it comes to terrorism because I want to ensure that it doesn't work.

For example, I'm sympathetic to the Palestinian cause. But since they keep blowing up bombs in shopping malls, I'm not going to write any letters to my Congressmen asking for them to support Palestine.


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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: ]
    #1240676 - 01/22/03 06:51 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Good article!!!  :laugh: 


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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: GoBlue!]
    #1240725 - 01/22/03 07:06 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I don't think terrorism is much worse than warfare. I think it's just "illegal" warfare. Someone please define terrorism.


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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: ]
    #1240733 - 01/22/03 07:08 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

"I will gladly read a link supporting the war, provided it offers something more substantial than rhetoric."*

Are you referring to persuasive speech or using the term as in "mere rhetoric"? There is a difference you know.

One of the things I like about the Shroomery is the invaluable information we find here. Like now, for instance. It looks like you learned a new word. Goodie. Using it properly is another thing however. Ask the Captain about that.

Emphasis mine.


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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: ]
    #1240738 - 01/22/03 07:11 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Ah... here it is... the FBI's official definition of terrorism is...

The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.

I would then say my definition of warfare is...

The lawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.


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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: ]
    #1240766 - 01/22/03 07:19 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I agree. But I would refine the definition of warfare as follows:

warfare - The use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."
I dropped the word "lawful", because whose "laws" are we talking about?


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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: GoBlue!]
    #1240816 - 01/22/03 07:37 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I would define "lawful" as being in accordance to international treaties and agreements. As opposed to something like defying the U.N., violating other international treaties and waging a war of aggression as an "unlawful" act.


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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: ]
    #1240819 - 01/22/03 07:37 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

And who keeps dragging down the rating of this thread... come on! is it you alex!?


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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: ]
    #1240847 - 01/22/03 07:44 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

I would define "lawful" as being in accordance to international treaties and agreements.




Ya, but what if a country didn't sign an international treaty regarding warfare? Many countries believe the UN is just a puppet organization of the US and don't subscribe to its laws.


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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: ]
    #1240848 - 01/22/03 07:45 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I thought 'rhetoric' meant just words, like say Bush could

A)  Say Iraq has WMD, then provide documented evidence of it
or
B)  Say Iraq has WMD, then say we can't sit back and do nothing, then say he might give it to terrorists, then say something about 9/11, then say.....

I meant 'rhetoric' as in (B) just talking without ever really offering any logically sound argument or proof .

Was that an incorrect usage  :confused:


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Re: This War is 100% About Oil [Re: GoBlue!]
    #1240869 - 01/22/03 07:53 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Go ahead and put the lawful back in.  We're talking about international laws.

That's right folks.  When it comes down to human beings KILLING and MAIMING eachother, there's a rulebook. :grin: :mad:


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