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OfflineAzmodeus
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San Pedro and Syrian Rue
    #1238710 - 01/22/03 07:16 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Hello,
I have been unable to find out if using mescaline in combination with rue is dangerous.  I heard that it contains amphetamines and thus, should not be combined with rue.  I also read two trip reports of people who did the mix and had very positive trips, without listing any negative effects.
If anyone has any insight into this issue, that can help resolve this mystery, your contribution is much appreciated.

Thanks. :wink:


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Re: San Pedro and Syrian Rue [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1238769 - 01/22/03 07:38 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I think K Trout mentioned something about the mixing of phenethylamines and MAOI's being a risk because of the potential of hypertensive crisis. He's not convinced it will cause problems, just suggests it's probably not a good idea.


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Re: San Pedro and Syrian Rue [Re: Xlea321]
    #1238775 - 01/22/03 07:40 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

But is mescaline a phenethylamine? or does it have other phenethylamine components in it?

Does anyone know for sure?


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Re: San Pedro and Syrian Rue [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1238803 - 01/22/03 07:53 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Mescaline is a phenethylamine.


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Re: San Pedro and Syrian Rue [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1238812 - 01/22/03 07:55 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

If Trout doesn't know I don't think anyone does. Why do you want to mix the MAOI with it? Have you heard it potentiates the effects at all?


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Re: San Pedro and Syrian Rue [Re: Xlea321]
    #1238819 - 01/22/03 07:59 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I just read two trip reports at erowid and now i am very intrigued!!

Check em out!  Seems it was a wonderful mix...

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php3?ID=2374

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php3?ID=20166

These reports are why i thought it would work... :laugh:


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Re: San Pedro and Syrian Rue [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1238826 - 01/22/03 08:03 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Also i was contemplating making a modified ayahausca.

Milmolosa Bark (however you spell it)
Syrian Rue
Hawian baby woodrose seeds
Shrooms
San pedro
and mabye even that capri vine maoi....

Just a thought i had..........It would one crazily psycoactive brew :crazy:  I wouldn't think of trying it until i've had much experience with all the additives...


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Re: San Pedro and Syrian Rue [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1239608 - 01/22/03 12:35 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds interesting man but I'd check your nausea levels with san pedro first! Just san pedro by itself in the form of dried capsules gave me serious nausea for a good 9 hours. I can't imagine having ayahuasca on top of it  :crazy:


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Re: San Pedro and Syrian Rue [Re: Xlea321]
    #1242265 - 01/23/03 09:04 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I thought more people would have tried san pedro and rue...
Seems like a pretty interesting combo!


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Re: San Pedro and Syrian Rue [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1242451 - 01/23/03 10:21 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

reason is you really don't need to potentiate the mesc any further, pedro is mindblowing in his own right! if i'm going to push it, i like to mix pedro with shrooms and/or E, done it with excellent results several times.


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Re: San Pedro and Syrian Rue [Re: comario2]
    #1242540 - 01/23/03 10:58 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

But people are always complaining about the taste.  Mixed with rue you prolly would only need to consume half the cactus gunk you normally would need to.  Thats good to know it goes with shrooms well! :grin:


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Re: San Pedro and Syrian Rue [Re: comario2]
    #1242543 - 01/23/03 10:58 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Edited by Azmodeus (01/23/03 11:07 AM)


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Re: San Pedro and Syrian Rue [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1245927 - 01/24/03 01:19 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't risk taking a MAOI with Mescaline.  I have (unfortunately) seen the effects of MDMA + MAOI and it was not pretty at all, and I believe that MDMA and Mescaline are both phenethylamine's... save the Rue for use with psychedelics: LSD, Shrooms, or best of all DMT  :cool: 


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Re: San Pedro and Syrian Rue [Re: azzid]
    #1245976 - 01/24/03 01:46 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

So did anyone read the trip report links i posted?  What could explain that! :confused:


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Re: San Pedro and Syrian Rue [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1247752 - 01/25/03 11:29 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Hey, do it if you want, I don't know what to tell you but I don't plan on doing it because people who seem to know stuff say it's a dangerous combination. If you doubt this and think it's probaby safe because of these trip reports on erowid then consider this: Why don't south american shamans mix caapi with san pedro? Of course the plants grow in different climates but people can move around and I'm sure there have been ayahuasqueros in the past who knew about san pedro, so why didn't they mix it in the brew? If it gives such kickass trips and is so safe and healthy don't you think it would be a traditional concoction? I'm not doin it


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Re: San Pedro and Syrian Rue [Re: Dogomush]
    #1252126 - 01/27/03 06:31 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Good point!! Yeah, responces have been pretty inconclusive on this one. Quite a few people say its not safe, but the only real evidence i had for the combo were those trip reports which doesnt really tell me shit.

I think mabye in summer time i might try this combo, but only in extremely low doses, i will have to research it more though before i'd even do that, but if someone can shed any light onto this topic your comments are still welcome.


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