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libertaire
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LME/Karo LC ratios?
#12382685 - 04/13/10 12:15 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was wondering how much I should use of karo for a LME/karo recipe? I know it's usually 4% total, so a heaping tablespoon each of LME/DEX per quart of water, when you're using dextrose, but is it different for karo, since it's not pure dextrose? Would I need to use more, or would a heaping table spoon be ok?
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Re: LME/Karo LC ratios? [Re: libertaire]
#12382759 - 04/13/10 12:31 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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There are a number of great recipes for any common LC ingredient if you search for it under trusted cultivators only. Including weights. ~P~
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Re: LME/Karo LC ratios? [Re: libertaire]
#12382769 - 04/13/10 12:34 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't know of any LME/Karo recipie. I do know that you can use just LME at 1 gram or half of a teaspoon per 500ml of water. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7887928/page/10 Also I know that karo by itself can be utilized. If you would like to know more about LC's and recipes: http://www.shroomery.org/24/Mycelium-Culture
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Re: LME/Karo LC ratios? [Re: hamloaf]
#12382793 - 04/13/10 12:40 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Psuper said: There are a number of great recipes for any common LC ingredient if you search for it under trusted cultivators only. Including weights. ~P~
That was the first thing I did, the only thing that came up for both lme and karo was an experiment oatman did a long time ago. No definite ratios.
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hamloaf said: I don't know of any LME/Karo recipie. I do know that you can use just LME at 1 gram or half of a teaspoon per 500ml of water. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7887928/page/10 Also I know that karo by itself can be utilized. If you would like to know more about LC's and recipes: http://www.shroomery.org/24/Mycelium-Culture
Both of these things I'm aware, but whether I should add more karo is still yet to have been uncovered.
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Re: LME/Karo LC ratios? [Re: libertaire]
#12382826 - 04/13/10 12:45 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I guess since no definite ratios have been worked out previously, it's experiment time.
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Re: LME/Karo LC ratios? [Re: libertaire]
#12382874 - 04/13/10 12:54 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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libertaire said: I guess since no definite ratios have been worked out previously, it's experiment time. 
Now THAT'S the power of positive thinking. Give your thread some time too, you just posted this thread and we are in the low traffic hours here at the shroomery. However, I like your attitude.
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Re: LME/Karo LC ratios? [Re: libertaire]
#12383635 - 04/13/10 06:07 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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libertaire said: I guess since no definite ratios have been worked out previously, it's experiment time. 
You want a final concentration of not more than about 4% sugars by weight. I don't know how much water is in karo, but maybe half?
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Re: LME/Karo LC ratios? [Re: Doc_T]
#12383769 - 04/13/10 07:11 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Edit: Bad math, see below!
Edited by libertaire (04/13/10 09:40 PM)
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Re: LME/Karo LC ratios? [Re: libertaire]
#12383787 - 04/13/10 07:17 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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A teaspoon of LME per quart jar is plenty- add variable karo to experiment. Or use dextrose powder.
Malt makes sediment, don't let it weird you out.
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Re: LME/Karo LC ratios? [Re: libertaire]
#12383873 - 04/13/10 07:58 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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In my experience this is one case where less is more. 4% is risky. I prefer 1%.
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Re: LME/Karo LC ratios? [Re: LeopardMan]
#12383968 - 04/13/10 08:32 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree with leopardman i dont go over 2.5%, most of mine are 1.2% or 2.1%.
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Re: LME/Karo LC ratios? [Re: Doc_T]
#12383970 - 04/13/10 08:32 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Doc_T said:
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libertaire said: I guess since no definite ratios have been worked out previously, it's experiment time. 
You want a final concentration of not more than about 4% sugars by weight. I don't know how much water is in karo, but maybe half?
I knew Doc would be the one to come through with the answer on this LC sugar ratio question. lol Doc, I noticed you really understand your sugar ratio's. Excellent work sir!! Where did you get your information about sugar ratio's and LC's? HL
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Re: LME/Karo LC ratios? [Re: LeopardMan]
#12383981 - 04/13/10 08:35 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hm, I actually just realized that my calculations were horribly inaccurate. Upon further consideration, if LME has a median of 45% sugar content, and karo has 17% sugar content, 1 table spoon of each per quart of water would come out to about a 1% sugar content. So still, if I were to use leopordman's and badman's recommendations, that would be a good ratio, but definitely not what I thought it was.
I plan on using a coffee filter to filter out any sediments.
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Re: LME/Karo LC ratios? [Re: hamloaf]
#12386256 - 04/13/10 03:51 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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hamloaf said: Where did you get your information about sugar ratio's and LC's? HL
Right here on this site, somebody did the experiment. But too-strong concentration of anything in solution means limited opportunity for growth.
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