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Re: Straw tip contam and monotub concerns [Re: Barksdale]
    #12504381 - 05/04/10 11:37 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Also anonjon, I was thinking of casing one of the tubs with 50/50 peat verm and a PH buffer to fight the contams.  It seems in monotubs its uneccessary, however, it also seems that a casing will help initiate pinning a bit quicker.  Also, that way I could put a bunch more holes in there and not need to worry so much about humidity levels dropping.  Do you think its worth a try? or do you think it will increase the likelyhood of these reoccuring contams?


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Re: Straw tip contam and monotub concerns [Re: Barksdale]
    #12506270 - 05/04/10 04:58 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I can't comment on the trich, it's hard to say what the cause is.

The way to judge fae, is find a tub someone else made that works, and copy the design. I'd say the standard around here is 1.5 inch holes at sub level. That's why i knew you weren't getting enuff fae, your holes are simply too small.

You could look at the ohmatic monotub tek, or doc T's shotgun mono thread to get some ideas about what works.

You might still try to fruit that tub also. Maybe pull the poly out of the holes for a few days. If you can get it to dry out faster, it'll pin sooner and might outrace the trich.

I'm not a fan of the salt. The pooling is awful. I've tried a few different things with varying success;
1. doing nothing and keeping the trich misted so spores don't go aerial. has worked out fine for me many times.
2. sticking duct tape to the spot in question. u need to get it to dry out a bit first, to get it to stick.
3. putting a piece of saran down over it and setting a 5 lb barbell weight on top of it.


Regarding casing, I think it's just another possible vector for contamination. It's not necessary and doesn't improve results.


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Re: Straw tip contam and monotub concerns [Re: anonjon]
    #12506309 - 05/04/10 05:07 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry to babble on, but looking at the whole thread again, I'd say the contamn problem is the straw.

Either look at your straw prep closely, maybe add the dish soap step.

Or just switch to coir and forget about the straw.


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Re: Straw tip contam and monotub concerns [Re: anonjon]
    #12506637 - 05/04/10 06:30 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I was definatly considering ditching the straw all together.  I think the coir should be just as effective if not better.  Problem is, all my tubs that are colonizing have straw, so I can't be through with it just yet.  I am pretty sure the one I make this weekend will be with coir.  Im going to try and spray the trich down and put some covering on it to help it prevent spreading.  I'm also going to mist the rest of it with some peroxide water.  Then I am going to put a few more holes in the tub  and put it outside with polyfil out for a few days.  Salting basically screwed me the first time and I won't do it again. 

And please anonjon, babble away, your my only saving grace on this thread right now, and I obviously need the help.  Many thanks!  I'll let you know how we turn out!

Oh and tomorrow I plan to pluck some of those first boomers off the sub and eat them right up!  I havent tripped in over a year.  Doing so with my own homegrown shit will be ultra satisfying!

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Re: Straw tip contam and monotub concerns [Re: Barksdale]
    #12507140 - 05/04/10 07:50 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

i wouldnt try attacking it with peroxide, you'll end up spreading it around more.


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Re: Straw tip contam and monotub concerns [Re: anonjon]
    #12548777 - 05/12/10 01:28 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Hey somebody help me out here.  Just pulled out some tubs that have been colonizing for a few weeks now.  I took some pics, and there may be some cause for concern. They look all white, but I'm not sure if I'm growing healthy myc or tubs full of white trich.  Let's checkem out:

#1:
This tub was hpoo/straw/verm/gypsum and the top inch or so is verm/hpoo and more spawn.  A total of 6 qts WBS spawned with Golden Teacher LC.  Tub was put together on 4/30 (13 Days) Through the plastic it looks nice and white.  I opened it today to scope it.  Here's what I saw:

Is all that cloudy fluffyness contam or myc?!  Sure would be a lot of contam, but because it seems discolored, I am afraid it may be.

The bottom left corner seemed a bit discolored too, it seems some myc is even growing on the trashbag and looks a bit darker.  Hard to tell it if is green or not.

#2:
hpoo/straw/verm/gypsum? I'm pretty sure thats it, but its not layered and its probably heavier on the straw.  Spawn was 6 qt. container of GT bulk substrate that was broken up to recolonize in larger tub on 4/17.  You can check it out on the OP up above.


#3:
The second tub I ever made, its actually a month and day old today.  So this one doesnt have much hope.  There is a noticable discolored area on the right side that concerns me.  Cobb web mold?


Reason I am concerned is I have had a lot of trich problems.  These tubs were made in the same house of course, and they could all very well be doomed.  I have set up a new operational area in my roomate's room for now.  I have a nice clean closet to fruit in also.  None of them have been introduced to FAE or much light exposure.

Just the other day I made a tub with coir/poo/verm/gypsum.  This will definatly be my new sub so I can eliminate the straw factor.  I recently found a 2001 Austin Healthmate HEPA with a 3 year old filter for $25 bucks on Craigslist.  Hope that helps me out.  I am also moving at the end of the month and can't wait to get to the clean house. 

Let me know your opinions about the tubs above.  Thanks.


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Re: Straw tip contam and monotub concerns [Re: Barksdale]
    #12548971 - 05/12/10 01:58 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

tub 1 looks great, that fluffy white is def myc, not trich.

tub 2 looks good, has some worrisome uncolonized areas

tub 3 with the odd discoloration, i dunno. doesn't look good tho.

cross yer fingers, maybe you'll get a trich-free tub this time.


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Re: Straw tip contam and monotub concerns [Re: anonjon]
    #12549236 - 05/12/10 02:39 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Nice.  Thats what I like to hear.  You think #1 is ready to fruit or should I give it another few days to sure up?

As for #2, the top right area is shadow, and the bottom right looks grey but may just be lighting also.  That one will def. get a few more days.

#3 like I said has taken a month and a day since spawning.  At the center of the discolored area are little dots, almost like knots (but there is no strong myc near it).  They are more noticable with the naked eye, but you can see them.  They also seem to be at the center of that light greyish area.  Looks like trouble to me.

Oh and I tried getting something out of that previously contamed tub and nothing is doing.  Its on the back porch now with two large trich spots.  I havent touched it in a while.  Probably will dump it when I have the time to do it cautiously.


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