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Is this Lactuca Virosa?
    #12342081 - 04/06/10 12:51 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I found what I believe to be Lactuca Virosa growing in my garden, here are a few pics:

It bleeds white and the milk(blood) tastes like bitter lettuce.


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Re: Is this Lactuca Virosa? [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #12342739 - 04/06/10 02:34 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

looks similar to the virosa I had a while back but it had smooth stems without the hairs/spines, so I cant be positive!

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Re: Is this Lactuca Virosa? [Re: vadub]
    #12342966 - 04/06/10 03:11 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Is this Lactuca Virosa? [Re: Cactusdan]
    #12343072 - 04/06/10 03:27 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Dan meant yes, it is lactuca.

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Re: Is this Lactuca Virosa? [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #12343627 - 04/06/10 05:01 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks! I was asking because in none of the diagrams I saw any spiky stems.


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Re: Is this Lactuca Virosa? [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #12345148 - 04/06/10 09:05 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Lactuca serriola?
Its hard to tell from the pic but L. virosa grows a... well.. a 'lettuce' the first year, a big rosette, then grows up to seed the second year. L. serriola grows up and seeds in 1 year. I dont see a big lettuce or cabbage-like rosette at the bottom.
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L. serriola is active too, just not as potent. In either case wait to harvest the sap when its starting to put out flowers, it helps potency. If you want some herbage to smoke the resin on, or to mix with other herbs, you can cut thin strips off leaves and let the sap beads on the wound dry out, then cut those strips off and repeat, gives a mix of smokable herb and resin and you can still harvest pure resin from successive cuts of the stems.


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Re: Is this Lactuca Virosa? [Re: Auxin]
    #12345892 - 04/06/10 11:06 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

So you can't harvest sap until the second year? If it really flowers in its second year, and you collect the sap from the flower stem right?

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Re: Is this Lactuca Virosa? [Re: iFennario]
    #12346854 - 04/07/10 03:08 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

they say most of the wicked-er looking types of lettuce all contain lopium (lactucarium)

actually most lettuce does i think..

grows everywher around here

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Re: Is this Lactuca Virosa? [Re: benitoamanito]
    #12347095 - 04/07/10 07:08 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I keep coming across plants with yellow flowers and spikey leaves and I can never figure out if they are L.virosa or just dandelions or something. I break the stalks, see little or no white sap and decide they probably aren't.


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Re: Is this Lactuca Virosa? [Re: iFennario]
    #12348845 - 04/07/10 01:39 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

If you have trouble telling dandelions (which have no stalks) from L. virosa (which can be 10 feet tall) take photos and ask someone :wink:
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So you can't harvest sap until the second year? If it really flowers in its second year, and you collect the sap from the flower stem right?

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You can harvest sap in the first year, it just might not be as strong as it otherwise would be.. it definatly wont be the quantity you'd get in year 2. But harvesting some sap wont kill the plant so you can do both, it (virosa) probably wont have a stalk the first year so just take thin slices off the leaves and wipe the sap onto a glass or ceramic plate. Do that morning and night for a week and scrape it off the plate. Leave enough leaves so it still grows well next year.
All lettuces have some goodies, you can guess potency by bitterness. The lettuce in the stores is the weakest, bred to lack bitterness and sedative effect, but even with that stuff you might sometimes detect some bitterness in the core of a head of lettuce.
For an example of an L. virosa rosette heres one that volunteered on a pile of rocks in half-shade:


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Re: Is this Lactuca Virosa? [Re: Auxin]
    #12349355 - 04/07/10 02:52 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

look like dandylions.


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Re: Is this Lactuca Virosa? [Re: ferrel_human]
    #12350652 - 04/07/10 06:24 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Dude you must have some huge ass monster dandelions!
Harvest the roots and sell those bad boys to some hippies! :laugh:


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Re: Is this Lactuca Virosa? [Re: Auxin]
    #12359320 - 04/09/10 12:27 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks Auxin! I don't THINK any of the resident weeds in my yard are lettuce any more. And ferrel... check out the sunglasses in the pic for scale purposes... that is a big lettuce!


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