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Informed Advice Greatly Needed...
    #1235204 - 01/21/03 12:11 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

So a friend and I originally planned on inoculating our vermiculite/organic rye flour pint jars before we left for winter break (more than a month ago). However, our spores didn't show up in time and we were therefore... screwed. Now the question is- are the substrate jars that have been "cooling" for a month still useable? Will there be any loss in yield? They still haven't been un-sealed, so theoretically the moisture of the cake is still in there... I just don't want to mess this up- especially after having had to wait this extra month.

Also- we were going to use vermiculite and potting soil to case our substrate cakes after the mycelium had matured. Is this method better or worse than just letting the cakes sit in wet perlite?

Thanks for any advice I get...


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Re: Informed Advice Greatly Needed... [Re: Wulff]
    #1235206 - 01/21/03 12:16 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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Now the question is- are the substrate jars that have been "cooling" for a month still useable?


I wouldn't use it. I mean, come on, substrate isn't all that expensive. Why waste the spores?


I wouldn't case with potting soil, I've found it contaminates a little to easily. Do it with peat/verm or coir/ verm or verm/verm (hehe, had to).


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Re: Informed Advice Greatly Needed... [Re: Skikid16]
    #1235211 - 01/21/03 12:28 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

You're most likely right about the substrate... and now that we're using a syringe and not a print, I'd rather redo them with the extra layer of vermiculite anyways.

What's are these "peats" and "cors" you speak of? I figured out what "verm" is.  :smile:
The methods I see talked a lot about usually involve pretty much the same procedure for everything up until casing. What exact casing do you recommend as "best"... or at least best for a beginner type, like me? 


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Re: Informed Advice Greatly Needed... [Re: Wulff]
    #1235289 - 01/21/03 02:40 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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What exact casing do you recommend as "best"... or at least best for a beginner type, like me?



60/40 Verm and Coco Coir ....on both accounts.



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    #1235343 - 01/21/03 03:55 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

don't re-do your jars if theres no contams, If they can sit around for over a month and still not be contammed then there no more likely to contam after you stick your needle in them and innoculate.


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    #1235440 - 01/21/03 04:49 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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don't re-do your jars if theres no contams, If they can sit around for over a month and still not be contammed then there no more likely to contam after you stick your needle in them and innoculate.




you don't think they might have dried out somewhat in that month?


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    #1238063 - 01/21/03 10:10 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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  What's are these "peats" and "cors" you speak of?


Coco Coir is the husks of coconuts or coconut trees (sorry, I'm stoned and tired  :grin:), it can be found at pet stores, it is used for reptile bedding.  One brand name that I've found is Bed-A-Beast. 

Peat, is peat moss, it is usually mixed with verm (50/50) and agricultural lime and oyster shell is added to balance the pH.    It can be found at most gardening centers, and a brand name is Shultz. 

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Re: Informed Advice Greatly Needed... [Re: Skikid16]
    #1238779 - 01/22/03 07:42 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I still think I'll redo my jars being that I didn't add the top layer of vermiculite over the cake (I thought I was going to use a spore print at the time).

I have a huge tupperware tray to lay out the cakes in. What you guys think I should do is pretty much burry the cakes in a 60/40 Verm/Coco mix? Should I mix the coco and verm together or have the verm below the cake and the coco above it?

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