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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #12345996 - 04/07/10 01:23 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

That's the only way to communicate with youngsters these days.  :sad:


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #12347224 - 04/07/10 10:18 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

where in scripture do they get the idea that a beard is bad????????


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"Then there are the fanatical atheists whose intolerance is the same as that of the religious fanatics, and it springs from the same source . . . They are creatures who can't hear the music of the spheres." (Albert Einstein)


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: learningtofly]
    #12347228 - 04/07/10 10:19 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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learningtofly said:
the gnostic gospels were written way after jesus allegedly died





the ones they found. I wouldn't say a couple hundred years is way after either. I suppose making copies of the original are out of the question?

The author's who supposedly wrote them, live and walked with Christ.


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"Then there are the fanatical atheists whose intolerance is the same as that of the religious fanatics, and it springs from the same source . . . They are creatures who can't hear the music of the spheres." (Albert Einstein)


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #12347252 - 04/07/10 10:28 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
My bro does good work in turning kids around, it is just too bad that it has to be wrapped in dogma and myth.




lol turning kids around eh?


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"Then there are the fanatical atheists whose intolerance is the same as that of the religious fanatics, and it springs from the same source . . . They are creatures who can't hear the music of the spheres." (Albert Einstein)


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: Chemical Sandman]
    #12347390 - 04/07/10 11:06 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

:nonono:


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: Chemical Sandman]
    #12347437 - 04/07/10 11:16 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Chemical Sandman said:
Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
My brother is a Christian Counselor and is forbidden to wear a beard - too radical.




:rolleyes:

nice lie.





As far as I know this isn't a lie. Better get the facts before calling someone a liar.


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: Chemical Sandman]
    #12348380 - 04/07/10 02:29 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Chemical Sandman said:
The author's who supposedly wrote them, live and walked with Christ.


Did you not read the OP? :what:


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: Icelander]
    #12350330 - 04/07/10 07:41 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Quote:

Chemical Sandman said:
Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
My brother is a Christian Counselor and is forbidden to wear a beard - too radical.




:rolleyes:

nice lie.





As far as I know this isn't a lie. Better get the facts before calling someone a liar.





Well then he must be part of a cult that is not Christian.

No scripture says anything against having a beard, everyone had a beard in the time of Christ. Even the man himself.:shrug:


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"Then there are the fanatical atheists whose intolerance is the same as that of the religious fanatics, and it springs from the same source . . . They are creatures who can't hear the music of the spheres." (Albert Einstein)


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: Chemical Sandman] * 1
    #12350355 - 04/07/10 07:45 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

:haha: you think Jesus really existed.


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: Poid]
    #12350374 - 04/07/10 07:47 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Poid said:
Quote:

Chemical Sandman said:
The author's who supposedly wrote them, live and walked with Christ.


Did you not read the OP? :what:





They were "claimed" to be written by his disciples. Matthew,Mark,Luke, John, all have version of the Gospels, then Paul and John wrote most of the latter part of the new testament.

So the scripture that was found has to be deemed the original work or it is false?

How did they pass scripture down and preserve it back then? Did they pass one copy around for 2000 years?

Is it absurd to think that they would have made more copies from others?

Is it absurd to think that some of these other writers *cough* Roman Catholics *cough* Could have slightly changed these texts to conform to their political and financial gain?


Just because they have not found the "official" version dated to the exact time does not mean their is no truth in the scripture. If you research bible prophecies that have been already fulfilled you would be surprised.


Come on, when the leaders put the Bible together, they all agreed on 66 books...


come on 66?

You got to be shitting me right....


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"Then there are the fanatical atheists whose intolerance is the same as that of the religious fanatics, and it springs from the same source . . . They are creatures who can't hear the music of the spheres." (Albert Einstein)


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: deCypher]
    #12350379 - 04/07/10 07:48 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Mr. Cypher said:
:haha: you think Jesus really existed.




One liner #30,624

True contributer to the site.:rolleyes:


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"Then there are the fanatical atheists whose intolerance is the same as that of the religious fanatics, and it springs from the same source . . . They are creatures who can't hear the music of the spheres." (Albert Einstein)


Edited by Chemical Sandman (04/07/10 07:48 PM)


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: Chemical Sandman]
    #12350421 - 04/07/10 07:53 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Chemical Sandman said:
Quote:

Poid said:
Quote:

Chemical Sandman said:
The author's who supposedly wrote them, live and walked with Christ.


Did you not read the OP? :what:





They were "claimed" to be written by his disciples. Matthew,Mark,Luke, John, all have version of the Gospels, then Paul and John wrote most of the latter part of the new testament.

So the scripture that was found has to be deemed the original work or it is false?

How did they pass scripture down and preserve it back then? Did they pass one copy around for 2000 years?

Is it absurd to think that they would have made more copies from others?

Is it absurd to think that some of these other writers *cough* Roman Catholics *cough* Could have slightly changed these texts to conform to their political and financial gain?


Just because they have not found the "official" version dated to the exact time does not mean their is no truth in the scripture. If you research bible prophecies that have been already fulfilled you would be surprised.


Come on, when the leaders put the Bible together, they all agreed on 66 books...


come on 66?

You got to be shitting me right....



I'm sorry, I just cannot keep up with your retarded-ass train of thought. :shrug2:


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: Poid]
    #12350469 - 04/07/10 08:01 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

When you can't come up with a logical rebuttal, resort to saying that your opponents use one-liners.  :haha:


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: Poid]
    #12350492 - 04/07/10 08:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Poid said:
Quote:

Chemical Sandman said:
Quote:

Poid said:
Quote:

Chemical Sandman said:
The author's who supposedly wrote them, live and walked with Christ.


Did you not read the OP? :what:





They were "claimed" to be written by his disciples. Matthew,Mark,Luke, John, all have version of the Gospels, then Paul and John wrote most of the latter part of the new testament.

So the scripture that was found has to be deemed the original work or it is false?

How did they pass scripture down and preserve it back then? Did they pass one copy around for 2000 years?

Is it absurd to think that they would have made more copies from others?

Is it absurd to think that some of these other writers *cough* Roman Catholics *cough* Could have slightly changed these texts to conform to their political and financial gain?


Just because they have not found the "official" version dated to the exact time does not mean their is no truth in the scripture. If you research bible prophecies that have been already fulfilled you would be surprised.


Come on, when the leaders put the Bible together, they all agreed on 66 books...


come on 66?

You got to be shitting me right....



I'm sorry, I just cannot keep up with your retarded-ass train of thought. :shrug2:





I know theirs like what 10-20 lines? It's almost like someone has something to say other than a one liner.

That's not what the internet is for.

We don't want opinions spread out further than one line!
:seriousbusiness:


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"Then there are the fanatical atheists whose intolerance is the same as that of the religious fanatics, and it springs from the same source . . . They are creatures who can't hear the music of the spheres." (Albert Einstein)


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: deCypher]
    #12350499 - 04/07/10 08:05 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Mr. Cypher said:
When you can't come up with a logical rebuttal, resort to saying that your opponents use one-liners.  :haha:





you made nearly 10 post's since then?:facepalm:


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"Then there are the fanatical atheists whose intolerance is the same as that of the religious fanatics, and it springs from the same source . . . They are creatures who can't hear the music of the spheres." (Albert Einstein)


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: Chemical Sandman]
    #12350545 - 04/07/10 08:11 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Chemical Sandman said:
I know theirs like what 10-20 lines? It's almost like someone has something to say other than a one liner.

That's not what the internet is for.

We don't want opinions spread out further than one line!
:seriousbusiness:


It's not the quantity of words that bothers me, it's the retarded & nonsensical content. :nut:


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #12350585 - 04/07/10 08:17 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Christians make a big deal out of 'multiple eyewitness accounts'; yet they are totally in error. Not sure how they can all miss such a major point: not a single writer of any book in the Bible saw Jesus in the flesh. None. Zero. Nada. Zilch. Squadoosh.

There is a solid reason that few modern courts of law allow hearsay evidence.




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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: Olympus Mons]
    #12350896 - 04/07/10 08:58 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

haha yeah, people who have faith in anything are stupid

Like faith in your senses and how the rational mind interprets those senses? How about faith in your own opinion?


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: deCypher]
    #12350944 - 04/07/10 09:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Mr. Cypher said:
:haha: you think Jesus really existed.




Even if he didn't exist, I wholeheartedly have faith in what he represents metaphysically and psychologically, and consider Iesous the Christ to be the paradigm of human development.


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: MarkostheGnostic] * 2
    #12351019 - 04/07/10 09:17 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

The earliest pieces of the Bible weren't even put into writing until some 30 or so years after Jesus' death. Even if those authors did know Jesus personally, which I highly doubt, you can rest assured that they're completely full of shit.


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