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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: deCypher]
    #12368137 - 04/10/10 05:44 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i don't, i'm jus guessin.


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: learningtofly]
    #12368144 - 04/10/10 05:45 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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What I mean is that consciousness is physical because its a biproduct of the brain doin' thangs.



Yeah we know what your thinking. Point is that even if the brain causes it is the brain is still not it.


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: learningtofly]
    #12368147 - 04/10/10 05:45 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I think there is a strong correlation between the mental and the physical, but it's unclear what this is.  Neuroscience needs to catch up to philosophy of mind.


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: deCypher]
    #12368172 - 04/10/10 05:52 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah exactly. Thing is it can never really be exactly defined by science because consciousness is just indescribable


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: soldatheero]
    #12368229 - 04/10/10 06:10 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

vague terms make this neuropsych student's head hurt.


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: deCypher] * 1
    #12368255 - 04/10/10 06:17 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Mr. Cypher said:
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soldatheero said:
By "the real realization" I mean it is the realization of realizations.




I disagree.




Was that the disagreement of disagreements?


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: Kickle]
    #12368263 - 04/10/10 06:19 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Kickle said:
vague terms make this neuropsych student's head hurt.




Can you please resolve the mind/body problem already?  :rolleyes:


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: soldatheero] * 1
    #12368281 - 04/10/10 06:22 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Thing is it can never really be exactly defined by science because consciousness is just indescribable






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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #12368285 - 04/10/10 06:22 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

*yay*


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: deCypher] * 1
    #12368334 - 04/10/10 06:29 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

No body -> no mind -> no problem.

I seriously never grokked this so-called dilemma. It is as stupid as asking if you can have width without an object.


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #12368336 - 04/10/10 06:30 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

LOL


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: soldatheero]
    #12368347 - 04/10/10 06:32 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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soldatheero said:
...its all one being in different states, this is the real realisation.


How does this mean that we're all the same? :undecided:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: No eyewitness to Jesus? [Re: Poid] * 1
    #12368353 - 04/10/10 06:33 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

It doesnt.


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