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Mr Cyan
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Dissolving 2c-i into water. Does this work?
#10272662 - 05/02/09 10:34 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have a load of 2c-i, and no powder scale. I'm pretty good at dosing without a scale, seeing as I've done it many times. However, I'd like to make it more systematic. I've heard of people dissolving 2c-i in a given mL of water, so that they then know how many mL has a given amount of 2c-i. If this works, I have a couple of questions.
How many mL of water should I use to dissolve around 800mg of 2c-i? Should I store the water bottle in a fridge? Anything else I should know?
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Re: Dissolving 2c-i into water. Does this work? [Re: Mr Cyan]
#10272686 - 05/02/09 10:43 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dude... All I can say is this.
It tastes like drinking a laboratory.
That's the only way I can describe it. Good luck.
Also, in my experience, 2c-i isn't extremely water soluble. It seems to clump and cake at the bottom at relatively small amounts. I was afraid to heat the solution though, for risk of ruining potency. (Given that I'm not sure where it's breakdown point is and would rather be safe than sorry.)
edit: whoops, just actually took time to read your post. I have no idea. You'll need to experiment to find it's water solubility. . For me it was just a bit of a failed attempt. I have, however, taken 2c-i in every way except injection. Drinking with water definitely hits quickly, though. Sorry I'm just stoned rambling, and couldn't be more help.
Edited by Innoculus (05/02/09 10:45 AM)
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Re: Dissolving 2c-i into water. Does this work? [Re: Mr Cyan]
#10272690 - 05/02/09 10:43 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dont use water!
2CI in water will decompose by microbial action. Dissolve it in flavorless vodka instead. When in doubt, unflavored red label Smirnoff will do the job.
If it was me doing the dissolving, I'd go for 800mg into 80ml smirnoff, and I'd store it in the freezer. To dose, use a syringe. 0.1ml = 1mg 2CI, squirt in a glass of juice and there you go.
Make sure that at freezer temp no 2CI precipitates out. If it does, let warm to room temperature and redissolve before dosing.
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Re: Dissolving 2c-i into water. Does this work? [Re: Mr Cyan]
#10272694 - 05/02/09 10:44 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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You could try a dose per ml so like say 20mg/1ml or 40ml and then you just dose a ml at a time.
The bottle should be fine at the same temperature you keep the powder as.
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Re: Dissolving 2c-i into water. Does this work? [Re: elcharrosays]
#10272695 - 05/02/09 10:45 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wouldn't distilled water work?
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Re: Dissolving 2c-i into water. Does this work? [Re: Asante]
#10272899 - 05/02/09 11:24 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Dont use water!
2CI in water will decompose by microbial action. Dissolve it in flavorless vodka instead. When in doubt, unflavored red label Smirnoff will do the job.
If it was me doing the dissolving, I'd go for 800mg into 80ml smirnoff, and I'd store it in the freezer. To dose, use a syringe. 0.1ml = 1mg 2CI, squirt in a glass of juice and there you go.
Make sure that at freezer temp no 2CI precipitates out. If it does, let warm to room temperature and redissolve before dosing.
I dig it.
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Mr Cyan
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Re: Dissolving 2c-i into water. Does this work? [Re: Asante]
#10273105 - 05/02/09 12:11 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why do you think the alcohol would work better than water? And have you done something similar to this, before?
I'm not concerned with dosing the 2c-i. I've done 2c-i numerous times, and am perfectly fine with the taste... MM PLASTICY CHEMICALS! haha Thanks for the replies.
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Re: Dissolving 2c-i into water. Does this work? [Re: Mr Cyan]
#10273140 - 05/02/09 12:24 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why do you think the alcohol would work better than water?
It doesnt! But the alcohol acts as a preservative. The 2CI dissolves in the water and the alcohol preserves it.
In the sixties you had "vodka acid" which was dripped onto sugar cubes. A standard recipe in those days was a gram of LSD to a liter bottle of red label Smirnoff vodka - every drop contained approx 50mcg LSD, several eyedropper drops thereof to be placed onto a lump of sugar.
50mcg is the strength of an average blotter nowadays.
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Re: Dissolving 2c-i into water. Does this work? [Re: Asante]
#10273257 - 05/02/09 12:55 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I used to do this fairly often when I would have an abundant supply of the i, learn from my mistakes and drop XXmg into a graduated cylinder that's 100 or 50 ml of water, do the conversion. It's nice to be easy to dose 2c-i water just by pouring out as many ml's of water from a cylinder. It does tend to get a little settled after time, so shake it often and always before you pour some out. Store it in a cool place, like a refridgerator, make sure you seal it well enough so nobody goes drinking out of the half empty bottle of water, though!
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Re: Dissolving 2c-i into water. Does this work? [Re: UniversalSoldier]
#10273317 - 05/02/09 01:09 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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151 proof (or 190 proof if you can get it in your state) calibrate volumetric, or "drop-wise" will work if yr booze is lower proof, & it gets cold (like camping out), yr stuff may start to re-crystallize, heh... don't use water, not worth the bother...
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Re: Dissolving 2c-i into water. Does this work? [Re: Innoculus]
#10274327 - 05/02/09 05:22 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Innoculus said: Dude... All I can say is this.
It tastes like drinking a laboratory.
That's the only way I can describe it. Good luck.
Also, in my experience, 2c-i isn't extremely water soluble. It seems to clump and cake at the bottom at relatively small amounts. I was afraid to heat the solution though, for risk of ruining potency. (Given that I'm not sure where it's breakdown point is and would rather be safe than sorry.)
edit: whoops, just actually took time to read your post. I have no idea. You'll need to experiment to find it's water solubility. . For me it was just a bit of a failed attempt. I have, however, taken 2c-i in every way except injection. Drinking with water definitely hits quickly, though. Sorry I'm just stoned rambling, and couldn't be more help.
Yeah just put them in vitamin pills.
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Re: Dissolving 2c-i into water. Does this work? [Re: Mr Cyan]
#10274336 - 05/02/09 05:25 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I dissolved my dose of 2c-i in a shot glass with some water and then dosed myself that way. I refilled up the glass multiple times to make sure I got everything. I proceeded to have one of the most intense experiences of my life. Wow...
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Re: Dissolving 2c-i into water. Does this work? [Re: MOTH]
#10274939 - 05/02/09 07:37 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Try plugging it. That's quite an experience..
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Mr Cyan
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Re: Dissolving 2c-i into water. Does this work? [Re: Innoculus]
#10276247 - 05/03/09 12:36 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've done it a couple of times, but I prefer ingestion. It's easier, lol.
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Re: Dissolving 2c-i into water. Does this work? [Re: Mr Cyan]
#10276449 - 05/03/09 01:32 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I used to do this will distilled water and never had any problems. Just made sure the dose worked out so 1ml of water was 1mg of 2ci and used a turkey baster-like thing but made for giving medicine to babies, so it had ml measurements on the side (sorry the actually name of those things escapes me right now, but they sell them in pharmacies.) If you are able to divide the dose up it would probably be better, ie: only dissolve 100mg at a time because it will keep longer in powder form than having all 800mg sitting around dissolved in water. I used a .01g accuracy scale to measure out 100mg, then dissolved that so the rest of my powder could be saved for later.
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Re: Dissolving 2c-i into water. Does this work? [Re: Mr Cyan]
#12319986 - 04/02/10 07:55 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think alcohol works better.
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Water works fine. 2c-i is a very stable organic chemical unlike that of LSD. It might taste a little pungent after a while but that's about it.
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Re: Dissolving 2c-i into water. Does this work? [Re: Tootsie Troll]
#12331552 - 04/04/10 07:56 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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..organic?
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