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Offlineeulogy1211
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Scientists attempt to explain heaven...use of Ketamine involved!
    #12328246 - 04/04/10 10:35 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Blurb from Slashdot

""Lisa Miller writes in Newsweek about the thesis that heaven is not a real place, or even a process or a supernatural event, but rather something that happens in your brain as you die. The thesis is based, in part, on a growing body of research around near-death experience. According to a 2000 article by Bruce Greyson in The Lancet, between 9 and 18 percent of people who have been demonstrably near death report having had an NDE. Surveys of NDE accounts show great similarities in the details, describing: a tunnel, a light, a gate or a door, a sense of being out of the body, meeting people they know or have heard about, finding themselves in the presence of God, and then returning, changed. Scientists have theorized that NDEs occur as a kind of physiological self-defense mechanism when, in order to guard against damage during trauma, the brain releases protective chemicals that also happen to trigger intense hallucinations. This theory has gained traction after scientists realized that virtually all the features of an NDE can be reproduced with a stiff dose of ketamine, a short-acting, hallucinogenic, dissociative anesthetic. 'I came out into a golden Light. I rose into the Light and found myself having an unspoken interchange with the Light, which I believed to be God,' wrote one user of his experience under ketamine. 'Dante said it better,' writes Miller, 'but the vision is astonishingly the same.'"


http://www.mindspring.com/~scottr/nde/jansen1.html

Check out the read. Pretty interesting stuff


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Re: Scientists attempt to explain heaven...use of Ketamine involved! [Re: eulogy1211]
    #12328275 - 04/04/10 10:45 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

wish that had a date on it.


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Re: Scientists attempt to explain heaven...use of Ketamine involved! [Re: nismo2491]
    #12328278 - 04/04/10 10:46 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

i always knew hheaven was a giant khole

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Re: Scientists attempt to explain heaven...use of Ketamine involved! [Re: nismo2491]
    #12328282 - 04/04/10 10:47 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds like just good ol' hallucinations to me :shrug:


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Re: Scientists attempt to explain heaven...use of Ketamine involved! [Re: Ryan07]
    #12328350 - 04/04/10 11:01 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

someone give me some K:syringe:


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Re: Scientists attempt to explain heaven...use of Ketamine involved! [Re: Ryan07]
    #12328375 - 04/04/10 11:06 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Man, when I tried Ketamine it wasn't THAT powerful, maybe I didn't take enough lol.


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Re: Scientists attempt to explain heaven...use of Ketamine involved! [Re: AsAboveSoBelow]
    #12328386 - 04/04/10 11:09 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I always thought the white light was due to the pupils dilating and letting in a bunch of light which
would appear like your going somewhere very bright

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Re: Scientists attempt to explain heaven...use of Ketamine involved! [Re: bigboi86]
    #12328467 - 04/04/10 11:22 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Coming from personal experience, it is almost exactly how people explain NDE. At one point I thought I had died. It was by far the SCARIEST moment of my life... But also the most powerful experience of my life too. What it made me realize is that I was taking my life for granted and it could be taken from me at any moment. I remember thinking "If I make it back alive, I am going to make some drastic changes"


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Re: Scientists attempt to explain heaven...use of Ketamine involved! [Re: danlennon3]
    #12328484 - 04/04/10 11:25 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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danlennon3 said:
Coming from personal experience, it is almost exactly how people explain NDE. At one point I thought I had died. It was by far the SCARIEST moment of my life... But also the most powerful experience of my life too. What it made me realize is that I was taking my life for granted and it could be taken from me at any moment. I remember thinking "If I make it back alive, I am going to make some drastic changes"




Sounds like after a bad trip

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Re: Scientists attempt to explain heaven...use of Ketamine involved! [Re: danlennon3]
    #12328489 - 04/04/10 11:25 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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I remember thinking "If I make it back alive, I am going to make some drastic changes"



did you?


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Re: Scientists attempt to explain heaven...use of Ketamine involved! [Re: laserpig]
    #12328523 - 04/04/10 11:31 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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bchunter said:
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danlennon3 said:
Coming from personal experience, it is almost exactly how people explain NDE. At one point I thought I had died. It was by far the SCARIEST moment of my life... But also the most powerful experience of my life too. What it made me realize is that I was taking my life for granted and it could be taken from me at any moment. I remember thinking "If I make it back alive, I am going to make some drastic changes"




Sounds like after a bad trip





It was the best trip of my life... I wouldnt consider anything from the experience as bad. Scary? yes. Bad? no!

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danlennon3 said:
I remember thinking "If I make it back alive, I am going to make some drastic changes"



did you?





yes I did for a while.. but like every learning experience, that feeling doesnt last forever, but for about a year it gave me such a powerful outlook on my life.


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